crashed ford ikon 1.3...

sparco · 10th September 2005, 10:43

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Originally Posted by dadudeonfire

tell me about their ages man...really feel sorry for them
never drink and drive....till now i must have banged my car 5 times...and all 5 times i was drunk...after that i stopped drinking and driving..and IF it is necessary to drive then i dont go beyond 40kmph

these guys were between the age group of 18-22...

sparco · 10th September 2005, 10:46

@gr8guzzler: Are you sure they were tubless tyres? Because a tubless tyre will loose air gradually and wont burst like a normal tubetype tyre.

Drifter[/quote]

yes drifter they were 3mths old bridgestone potenzaz tubeless tyres not sure bout the size...

drifter · 10th September 2005, 11:12

If they were tubeless...you sure its a tyre burst? coz it seems unlikely.

Drifter

RX135 · 10th September 2005, 19:20

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Originally Posted by drifter

If they were tubeless...you sure its a tyre burst? coz it seems unlikely.

I don't think it should be called tyre burst, but I have myself experienced tubeless tyre losing air in less than 15 sec. The tyre was ripped up *externally* on side walls by a sharp piece of hard plastic. I was driving at <10 kmph, but had it been 80+, it surely would have been serious problem. Almost like tyre burst.

Sahil · 10th September 2005, 21:47

This is really sad, heart goes out to the families and may the victims souls rest in peace.
Tyres burst can occur even in a tubeless tyre. Remember the totalled Vectra accident posted sometime back?
If the tyre is defected or developed an air bubble on the sidewall or something which is hard to notice then it can gradually tear the inner wall linning and cause the tyre to burst.

manson · 11th September 2005, 01:09

that ikon has scared the daylights out of me!

manson.

drifter · 11th September 2005, 01:24

Rapid loss of pressure even in tubeless tyres? Thats something i didn't know about.

Drive safe everyone!

Drifter

viper · 11th September 2005, 10:45

Hey Drifter,

If the tyre is slashed on the sidewall or has developed a bubble which bursts or you hit a stone at speed in a defective tyre it will cause sudden loss of pressure irrespective of tyre type.

You will only get minor los of pressure incase of a puncture(read when an object is yet plugging the leak in a pressurised tyre).Once you stop the car and let the tyre cool of pressure build up is reduced and a gap is created at the point of entry which causes a slow leak.

Viper

tsk1979 · 12th September 2005, 10:24

The weak link in tubeless tyres is the sidewall. If that goes at high speed the tear can spread immediately. Looks like the sidewall got ripped by a sharp rock or something. Actually nothing can protect you against such sharp rocks. I have had an entire power steering faliure due to a sharp rock flying off from the tyre and hitting the hose at high speed, and i was doing about 60-70 at that time!

X-Machine · 12th September 2005, 17:42

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Originally Posted by viper

If the tyre is slashed on the sidewall or has developed a bubble which bursts or you hit a stone at speed in a defective tyre it will cause sudden loss of pressure irrespective of tyre type.
Viper

Ive got this small bubble on my left rear Potenza GIII tyre since 2mths now.Have almost driven 1500kms with the same.Thank god im still alive and safe.

X

viper · 12th September 2005, 18:11

Hey X-Machine,

You sure are living dangerously. Nothing to snicker about. Hope you don't experience what these guys did and will pray that you get some brains and change the tyre.

Viper

Ford Rocam · 12th September 2005, 20:22

Another important thing is to check wheel balancing and bended rims (both from outside & inside) which could prove fatal in high speed driving, make sure u get wheel balancing and alignment done atleast min 5K KM to 10K KM depending upon the way u drive & road conditions,

Ford Rocam · 12th September 2005, 21:31

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Originally Posted by drifter

Rapid loss of pressure even in tubeless tyres? Thats something i didn't know about.

Drive safe everyone!

Drifter

An under inflated tyre can also contribute to this.

Mpower · 12th September 2005, 23:20

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Originally Posted by X-Machine

Ive got this small bubble on my left rear Potenza GIII tyre since 2mths now.Have almost driven 1500kms with the same.Thank god im still alive and safe.

If there is no evidence of kerb damage then this is a manufacturing defect. My sister has a similar issue and the tire was replaced (by Goodyear) under warranty.

RX135 · 13th September 2005, 01:06

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Originally Posted by X-Machine

Ive got this small bubble on my left rear Potenza GIII tyre since 2mths now.Have almost driven 1500kms with the same.Thank god im still alive and safe.

It appears to be a manufacturing defect. Get it replaced from company.

10th September 2005, 10:46	#47
sparco BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: bandra-mumbai Posts: 72 Thanked: 0 Times	@gr8guzzler: Are you sure they were tubless tyres? Because a tubless tyre will loose air gradually and wont burst like a normal tubetype tyre. Drifter[/quote] yes drifter they were 3mths old bridgestone potenzaz tubeless tyres not sure bout the size...
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10th September 2005, 11:12	#48
drifter Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 1,488 Thanked: 75 Times View My Garage	If they were tubeless...you sure its a tyre burst? coz it seems unlikely. Drifter
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10th September 2005, 21:47	#50
Sahil Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 6,322 Thanked: 7,768 Times	This is really sad, heart goes out to the families and may the victims souls rest in peace. Tyres burst can occur even in a tubeless tyre. Remember the totalled Vectra accident posted sometime back? If the tyre is defected or developed an air bubble on the sidewall or something which is hard to notice then it can gradually tear the inner wall linning and cause the tyre to burst.
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11th September 2005, 01:09	#51
manson Team-BHP Support Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 3,949 Thanked: 4,253 Times View My Garage	that ikon has scared the daylights out of me! manson.
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11th September 2005, 01:24	#52
drifter Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 1,488 Thanked: 75 Times View My Garage	Rapid loss of pressure even in tubeless tyres? Thats something i didn't know about. Drive safe everyone! Drifter
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11th September 2005, 10:45	#53
viper BANNED Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,773 Thanked: 20 Times	Hey Drifter, If the tyre is slashed on the sidewall or has developed a bubble which bursts or you hit a stone at speed in a defective tyre it will cause sudden loss of pressure irrespective of tyre type. You will only get minor los of pressure incase of a puncture(read when an object is yet plugging the leak in a pressurised tyre).Once you stop the car and let the tyre cool of pressure build up is reduced and a gap is created at the point of entry which causes a slow leak. Viper
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12th September 2005, 10:24	#54
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,726 Thanked: 23,058 Times View My Garage	The weak link in tubeless tyres is the sidewall. If that goes at high speed the tear can spread immediately. Looks like the sidewall got ripped by a sharp rock or something. Actually nothing can protect you against such sharp rocks. I have had an entire power steering faliure due to a sharp rock flying off from the tyre and hitting the hose at high speed, and i was doing about 60-70 at that time!
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12th September 2005, 18:11	#56
viper BANNED Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,773 Thanked: 20 Times	Hey X-Machine, You sure are living dangerously. Nothing to snicker about. Hope you don't experience what these guys did and will pray that you get some brains and change the tyre. Viper
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12th September 2005, 20:22	#57
Ford Rocam BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mumbai-India Posts: 878 Thanked: 23 Times	Another important thing is to check wheel balancing and bended rims (both from outside & inside) which could prove fatal in high speed driving, make sure u get wheel balancing and alignment done atleast min 5K KM to 10K KM depending upon the way u drive & road conditions,
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