[Sman999]

Honda's new parallel twin engine shown at the Intermot show.













2023 Honda CB750 Hornet Specifications

Engine: DOHC, liquid-cooled Unicam parallel twin; 8 valves
Displacement: 755cc
Bore x Stroke: 87.0 x 63.5mm
Compression Ratio: 11.0:1
Transmission/Final Drive: 6 speed/chain
Claimed Horsepower: 90.5 hp @ 9,500 rpm
Claimed Torque: 55.3 lb.-ft. /75nm @ 7,250 rpm
Fuel System: PGM-FI fuel injection w/ 46mm throttle bodies
Clutch: Wet, multiplate, slipper/assist
Engine Management/Ignition: Ride-by-wire
Frame: Steel, diamond type
Front Suspension: Showa 41mm SFF-BP USD fork
Rear Suspension: Monoshock, Pro-Link
Front Brake: Nissin radial-mount 4-piston calipers, 296mm discs
Rear Brake: 1-piston caliper, 240mm disc
Wheels, Front/Rear: 5-spoke cast aluminum
Tires, Front/Rear: 120/70-17 / 160/60-17
Rake/Trail: 25.0°/3.9 in.
Wheelbase: 55.9 in.
Ground Clearance: 5.5 in.
Seat Height: 31.3 in.
Fuel Capacity: 4.0 gal / 18liters
Claimed Wet Weight: 419 lb /190kg
Contact: powersports.honda.com


Is this the one to replace the CB650R? I know this is a parallel twin but as per on paper it rivals the 650cc naked segment(MT07, Z650, SV650) better than the CB650R.

[CrAzY dRiVeR]

Honda has unveiled their brand new naked at the Intermot 2022 in Cologne, Germany. The 2023 Honda CB750 Hornet. Powered by a 755cc parallel twin-cylinder motor producing 90.5 @ 9,500 rpm and a wet weight of 190kg - Honda claims segment leading power to weight figures for this machine.

Styling & Equipment

• New style defines razor-sharp minimalism
• Upright riding position for natural control
• Customisable, 5-inch TFT display with shift-up indicator
• Honda Smartphone Voice Control system offers Android and IOS smartphone connectivity
• The rear indicators feature Emergency Stop Signal and auto cancel technology

Chassis:

• The Hornet’s steel diamond frame is lightweight, at just 16.6kg (for comparison, the CB650R’s is 18.5kg).
• Rake and trail are set at 25° and 99mm.
• Wheelbase of 1,420mm
• Kerb weight of 190kg.
• Showa 41mm Separate Function Fork Big Piston (SFF-BPTM) USD forks with 130mm travel.
• The rear shock absorber operates through the steel swingarm via Pro-Link and offers 150mm travel; it features 5-stage preload adjustment.
• Dual front 296mm discs and Nissin radial-mount, four-piston calipers
• Front wheel width is 3.5inch wearing 120/70-ZR17 tyre, the rear 4.5inch with 160/60-ZR17 tyre.

Engine Electronics:

• Three default rider modes; RAIN, STANDARD and SPORT
• Three levels of Engine Power, Engine Brake and HSTC with integrated Wheelie Control
• USER customisation option between the three levels

The 23YM CB750 Hornet will be available in the following colour options:

• Pearl Glare White with Metallic Red Flame frame and anodised Red forks
  
• Graphite Black with Metallic Red Flame frame and anodised Red forks
  
• Matte Iridium Gray Metallic
  
• Mat Goldfinch Yellow

According to Honda U.K., the MSRP for the 2023 CB750 Hornet starts at £6,999.00 and it is positioned below the CB650R which is priced at £7,699.00.

[VW2010]

Hope it performs well, as it is a difficult buy in the looks department. Looks are personal, yet this one is too simple and hardly motivates to even give it a try. From their cbz150 to till date models, this may be the most underwhelming design. Again a personal taste.

[NH08]

I will jump onto it as I can sit on it comfortably. Seat height is a very comfortable 31.3 inches i.e. 795 mm.

But there are certain facts shown in News column and here in the Forum differently, as given below, that may be cleared:

1. Power - As per News, it is 92 bhp, here it is 90.5 bhp.

2. Fuel Tank - As per News, it is 15.2 L, here it is 18 L (post #1).

[bf1983]

Originally Posted by VW2010

Hope it performs well, as it is a difficult buy in the looks department. Looks are personal, yet this one is too simple and hardly motivates to even give it a try. From their cbz150 to till date models, this may be the most underwhelming design. Again a personal taste.

You are not alone. I love Nakeds! Bikes included and this design just doesn't look exciting at all. Some designs are polarising like the Street triple bug eyed headlights or stacked headlights on the Suzuki GSX S1000 but this is just plain boring.

The Honda CB650R with its neo retro design looks so much better IMO.

Originally Posted by NH08

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2. Fuel Tank - As per News, it is 15.2 L, here it is 18 L (post #1).

While I did double check from the pictures itself I could tell the tank was no way 18l but 15.2l.

The exact power figures I am not sure as different sites mentioned different figures but there is a minute difference between the reported power figures anyways.

[Rob UK]

Hmm.

The traditionalist in me demands that bikes which wear the legendary CB moniker without Fs and Rs and Xs adorning it should be genuine 2 seaters in a UJM style, and that a CB750 should certainly have 4 cylinders.

[RT13]

Well apparently it’s priced a fair bit less than the CBs and has a smidge more power which then makes a hard case for the CB650R unless one is a diehard inline 4 fan and heart wins over head.

What I do look forward to is hopefully the Transalp which should be based off this engine. And going by this pricing, should also be a superbly competitive offering. Unless, true to form, Honda screws us here in India...

[Boringrider]

Personally, I don't mind the subdued styling. It will blend in anywhere with the regulars and will be a proper sleeper. Of course, in typical Honda fashion, this will never be launched here or if it did, will be at its own sweet pricing. Power figures are impressive.

[Rob UK]

Originally Posted by RT13

What I do look forward to is hopefully the Transalp which should be based off this engine. And going by this pricing, should also be a superbly competitive offering. Unless, true to form, Honda screws us here in India...

Honda should have already been building a Transalp on the NC750x platform with a 21" front wheel. Genuine adventure tourers would love the low revving 70mpg frugality (plus associated tank range), and proven reliability of the 58bhp lump - but it seems they are going with the CB motor. Transalps have lapped the planet many many times over, but such folk usually buy an old one. New ones are bought by a different kind of buyer, so it'll get more power and revs than it really needs to do the hard-core ADV stuff accordingly.

This looks more like a pre-prod one than a test mule, spotted out & about in Europe...

[loki]

Originally Posted by RT13

Well apparently it’s priced a fair bit less than the CBs and has a smidge more power which then makes a hard case for the CB650R unless one is a diehard inline 4 fan and heart wins over head....
Unless, true to form, Honda screws us here in India...

I think the CB650R will become a collectible!

After all the online buildup, the Hornet 750 design is frankly underwhelming. It looks too commuter-ish and seems like a scaled up CB300F. Its a bit like Honda has a team doing the concepts and then another team to deliberately dial down the concept into something more..err Honda-ey.

Having said that, I'm glad Honda is finally playing the value for money game with this one. On stats and specsheet including Price, the Hornet 750 easily trumps its direct competition (MT07, Z650, SV650X... even the Trident 660). Will definitely be a hot seller. But of course they will screw us in India with the pricing here.

Looking forward to the Transalp 750 !

[Rob UK]

Originally Posted by loki

I think the CB650R will become a collectible!

After all the online buildup, the Hornet 750 design is frankly underwhelming. It looks too commuter-ish and seems like a scaled up CB300F. Its a bit like Honda has a team doing the concepts and then another team to deliberately dial down the concept into something more..err Honda-ey.

The way I see it, Honda tried being a bit different by offering a grown up inline 4 in the budget 600-700 naked sector with the equally uninspiring looking CB650F 2017-2019, but it was a comparative flop.

They are hedging their bets with the 4 cylinder "Neo-Cafe" CB650R which is cool and brings a now rare for a sub-800cc middleweight inline 4 to the mix, and this bike, which is utterly conventional and follows the market.

In the European market, this bike doesn't need to raise pulses, it just needs to be an MT07 with a Honda badge and their well earned reputation for unmatched durability & reliability will probably do the rest.

[neil.jericho]

Originally Posted by Rob UK

In the European market, this bike doesn't need to raise pulses, it just needs to be an MT07 with a Honda badge and their well earned reputation for unmatched durability & reliability will probably do the rest.

Well said! Too often enthusiasts get caught up in spec sheet battles including the number of cylinders. There is so much more to it than that.

Honda knew that it needed a bike to take on the super successful MT 07. From the videos covering Intermot 2022, this one looks like a winner. This engine / platform will spawn several other models as well, so more segments of riders will be happy. Im interested to see what the CBR variant of this will look like. The CBR750R vs R7 battle may not be as testosterone filled as the CBR600RR vs R6 battles on the road or on the tracks, but it certainly promises to be an exciting time for us enthusiasts.

[doga]

Reminds me more of the CBF600 than the CB600F. Perhaps meant to be the former-reliable workhorse which would take you from A to B in all conditions. If you ask me a hornet has to have a certainly shaped tank. Like others said, it'd sell especially given it's going to be cheap

[CrAzY dRiVeR]

Originally Posted by doga

Like others said, it'd sell especially given it's going to be cheap

That's the headline figure. This is the cheapest bike in this category.

Honda CB750 Hornet - £ 6,999
Yamaha MT 07 - £ 7,200
Kawasaki Z650 - £ 7,349
Triumph Trident 660 - £ 7,695
Honda CB650R - £ 7,699

[FireBlade]

So this bike is even cheaper than Trident in UK? If HMSI can price the bike at this same ratio here in India, it'd mean an entry sticker price of around 6.5-6.7 lakhs! Hornet 750 would sell if they can manage this.