[doga]

This bike would be a riot and probably hits the sweet spot here in India, hope they launch it here. Going to show up in European dealers this automn.

from visordown
https://www.visordown.com/news/new-b...mn-2023-launch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tajePXY2puM

Mod Note: The Kawasaki ZX4R has been launched in India. Please continue the discussion over on the new thread. Thanks!

[Axe77]

Will never be commercially viable in India I suspect. The price will just be way too out of whack with what customers would be willing to pay for this CC segment. Even the ZX 6R struggled although if you ask me that made for an incredible purchase as a mid segment super sports to do track days on.

[doga]

Originally Posted by Axe77

Will never be commercially viable in India I suspect. The price will just be way too out of whack with what customers would be willing to pay for this CC segment. Even the ZX 6R struggled although if you ask me that made for an incredible purchase as a mid segment super sports to do track days on.

I know that it's wishful thinking. The ZX25R is somewhere around 5-6 lakhs in Indonesia, so the ZX4R is not going to be in the easily attainable range for sure. However, I do note that the cycle parts are not top notch, the chassis components are fairly basic which makes me think the markup is immense in Indonesia. This may be because of the tax rule in Indonesia where anything above 250CC attracts massive taxes, so they can charge higher and still be much cheaper than higher cc models. The 600s cost like 19-20 lacs there thanks to the taxes.

However, on the other hand, I think our import taxes for sub 800CC CKD/CBU are insane as well? Anyone knows the latest numbers?

[aargee]

Originally Posted by Axe77

Will never be commercially viable in India I suspect. The price will just be way too out of whack with what customers would be willing to pay for this CC segment. Even the ZX 6R struggled although if you ask me that made for an incredible purchase as a mid segment super sports to do track days on.

In addition to pricing, the lowest torque will be highly impractical navigating through our congested cities; add to that, neighbors complain on revving the motorcycle too much!!

PS - For sure a pullingo with a Dio is sufficient to provoke a ZX4R rider in congested traffic & cause menace!!

[ManneAtWheelz]

After the Ninja ZX-25R, Kawasaki has launched another, sub-500cc inline four-cylinder motorcycle for the international markets. Christened as the ZX-4RR, this new motorcycle has been launched in the United States with prices starting from USD 9,699 (Rs 7.93 lakh). Meanwhile, its Indian launch is highly unlikely.

➡️ Powered by a liquid-cooled, DOHC, 16-valve inline-four engine displacing 399cc

➡️ Engine redlines at 16,000rpm!

➡️ ram air duct in the front fairing

➡️ Six-speed transmission with Kawasaki’s Assist & Slipper clutch and Kawasaki Quick Shifter as standard

➡️ Four ride modes: Sport, Road, Rain and Rider

➡️ Three level traction control

➡️ 4.3-inch full-color TFT display

➡️ steel-trellis frame

➡️ 37mm inverted Showa SFF-BP with spring preload adjustment

Performance figures are yet to be out.

[CrAzY dRiVeR]

Originally Posted by doga

I know that it's wishful thinking. The ZX25R is somewhere around 5-6 lakhs in Indonesia, so the ZX4R is not going to be in the easily attainable range for sure.

It is priced higher than the Z900 in the USA. Indian market will hesitate to pay half that price, telling its a 400 afterall!

[doga]

Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR

It is priced higher than the Z900 in the USA. Indian market will hesitate to pay half that price, telling its a 400 afterall!

Wow, didn't know US prices have been announced. At that price it will have no takers here, however I do see that the price is for the RR model, and there are two other lower spec models- the base R and the SE.
If they launch the R model here and the price is closer to the Ninja 650 which is roughly MSRP USD 8000 plus (the KRT edition is 8600 with all bells and whistles), it'd be interesting to see what happens. I know the Z900 is the most popular kawa model, don't know how popular the ninja 650 is here.

[AtheK]

More then the ZX4R, they need to relaunch ZX6R here at a starting price of maybe 9.99 lacs, that will set the ball rolling for them. CBR650R is a decent product, but ZX6R is more edgy, more powerful (130 bhp) and would find more takers. It has a proper supersport look as well, and performance to boot, though not sure why Kawasaki has still not given it the Digital SPeedometer on all the updated bikes now.

ZX4r will be dead on arrival even at 7.99 Lacs price point, hardly anyone will buy it. This product is not for indian markets, there is no placement and no market.

[bf1983]

Originally Posted by AtheK

More then the ZX4R, they need to relaunch ZX6R here at a starting price of maybe 9.99 lacs, that will set the ball rolling for them. CBR650R is a decent product, but ZX6R is more edgy, more powerful (130 bhp) and would find more takers. It has a proper supersport look as well, and performance to boot, though not sure why Kawasaki has still not given it the Digital SPeedometer on all the updated bikes now.

ZX4r will be dead on arrival even at 7.99 Lacs price point, hardly anyone will buy it. This product is not for indian markets, there is no placement and no market.

The ZX6r has joined the rest of the 600cc super sports and has been permanently discontinued. It's still sold in countries that don't follow Euro 5 or BS6 emission standards. So the Yamaha R6, Honda CBR 600RR, Suzuki GSX-R600 and the Daytona are all discontinued in Europe thanks to higher emission norms.

Kawasaki simply import bikes so good pricing is not something they are known for and while I believe this ZX4r will be launched in India it will definitely be overpriced and a sales dud

[AtheK]

Originally Posted by bf1983

The ZX6r has joined the rest of the 600cc super sports and has been permanently discontinued. It's still sold in countries that don't follow Euro 5 or BS6 emission standards. So the Yamaha R6, Honda CBR 600RR, Suzuki GSX-R600 and the Daytona are all discontinued in Europe thanks to higher emission norms.

Kawasaki simply import bikes so good pricing is not something they are known for and while I believe this ZX4r will be launched in India it will definitely be overpriced and a sales dud

Ah I did not know that, thanks for letting me know. Kawasaki is better of then not getting the ZX4r in India at all and use that energy somewhere else.

Though I disagree with the not good pricing part, they might be following everyone now in steep pricing, but they did get the superbike scene started in India at a decent pricing, Ninja 1000 was one bike sold at a mouth watering price when launched in India. Even today ZX10r is the most VFM bike compared to the competition in litre class category.

[.sourov]

If Kawasaki gets this bike to India they will never be able to justify its pricing. The high revving engine will be impractical to ride in most of our cities, even for weekend rides I am not sure it will bring in that much fun factor.

This will be best served for people who regularly do track days with big bikes and sometimes they might want to ride something compact to refine their skills.

[nitro.1000bhp]

Originally Posted by .sourov

If Kawasaki gets this bike to India they will never be able to justify its pricing. The high revving engine will be impractical to ride in most of our cities, even for weekend rides I am not sure it will bring in that much fun factor.

This will be best served for people who regularly do track days with big bikes and sometimes they might want to ride something compact to refine their skills.

I sincerely disagree. A small cc high revving engine is any day more fun than a liter bike with too much unusable power. There is a lot of fun to be had with a less torquey engine where you need to work the gearbox to keep it on the boil, unlike in a liter which would do vulgar speeds even in 1st gear and then make one's butt clench and reduce back to sane speeds. On the 400 you can redline in 2nd gear and still be inside speed limits. Ofcourse, it will be a pita inside City commuting but then, like most enthusiasts, we have more than 1 bike for different applications then it's all good.

Do hope they bring it but I've exhausted my bike purchase budget this year so, i pass the baton to my fellow enthusiasts to go ahead and buy it, so atleast i can get a used one in the near future

[doga]

Originally Posted by nitro.1000bhp

I sincerely disagree. A small cc high revving engine is any day more fun than a liter bike with too much unusable power.

My thoughts exactly. A screamer engine without unmanageable power is my(and may be most enthusiast's) wet dream.
That noise with the engine on boil and still doing may be 120 kmph would be oh so nice compared to a litre where you are always worrying about the speeds.
If this is priced within 50k of the Ninja 650(the R model) then I can't see why it won't find takers.

[.sourov]

Originally Posted by nitro.1000bhp

Ofcourse, it will be a pita inside City commuting but then, like most enthusiasts, we have more than 1 bike for different applications then it's all good.

My thoughts exactly but the price it will command it might be the only bike in most people's garage .
It will be a great alternative to the 6r for track day usage though.

Originally Posted by doga

My thoughts exactly. A screamer engine without unmanageable power is my(and may be most enthusiast's) wet dream.
That noise with the engine on boil and still doing may be 120 kmph would be oh so nice compared to a litre where you are always worrying about the speeds.

But, with the engine on the boil will come the heat factor. I still remember during initial days people complaining about the heating issues from D390.

One thing is for sure the high revving 16K rpm inline4 will make music to the ears, my CBR650R even with stock exhausts just sounds awesome even at 9K.

[TheCelestial]

Originally Posted by bf1983

Kawasaki simply import bikes so good pricing is not something they are known for and while I believe this ZX4r will be launched in India it will definitely be overpriced and a sales dud

I think Kawasaki bikes are very well priced and they bring in a lot of them through CKD. Also I do not think ZX4RR will be launched in India.