Japanese samurai or European Knight?

devarshi84 · 19th January 2006, 09:12

I have always wanted to drive a R1 on the track but not that I wouldnt want the 999 in the same place. One is a Japanese masterpiece and other a European masterpiece.

I sat on both the bikes at the Toronto motorcycle show and found Ducati fit and finish worth to pay double the price of the R1 they charge but would I really pay the amount of money that can buy me a 350Z coupe intead?

what are your excerpts on this?

Rtech · 19th January 2006, 09:51

Put it this way. Would a 350Z provide you with the same performance as a 999? You can't compare cars to bikes.

islero · 19th January 2006, 10:11

Exactly. Cars are nowhere as fast in a straight line, but much faster through corners, and are safer, but even the fastest car in the world can only just about match the thrills provided by a big bike.

powerslave12r · 19th January 2006, 15:13

Have ridden neither, leave alone push them to their limits to realise even 1% of each one's potential. In short, no comments.

typeOnegative · 19th January 2006, 18:11

The R1 for me. I am a Yam guy through and through.

n_aditya · 19th January 2006, 19:13

I want an R1...

ummmm ducati also would do...

ok now i need to wake up to reality....

amit · 19th January 2006, 21:02

Ducati for me. Though both the bikes are great, the ducati has that something extra in it which is only evident when you sit on both of them. The Yamaha feels like any production bike but sit on the Ducati and you know it's special. I don't know how the Italians manage to build in passion into everything they make but hell they do a fantastic job at it.

Is the Ducati really double the price of the R1?

The Wolf · 19th January 2006, 21:09

Duke of biking world, Ducati for me...Yams and Suzuki's have become boringly common!

karthik247 · 19th January 2006, 21:52

YAMAHA R1! Its styling is just so sharp and looks killer. No way ever i'll even think abt a Ducati. They are way overpriced, and i just don't understand why.

Steeroid · 20th January 2006, 01:09

European Knights plundered and pillaged other lands, often showing bloodthirsty savagery, laying lands barren and carrying away women. They often grew fat and lazy and lived off what they had plundered for the rest of their lives.

Japanese Samurais fought for honor - whether their own or of their masters, were bound by a code of honor, were disciplined, efficient (even as killing machines) and served loyally till their death.

Mpower · 20th January 2006, 03:53

I dont think the Chinese are going to agree with you. Right now they are raising a hue and cry about Japanese savagery during WW2.

devarshi84 · 20th January 2006, 06:57

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Originally Posted by Steeroid

European Knights plundered and pillaged other lands, often showing bloodthirsty savagery, laying lands barren and carrying away women. They often grew fat and lazy and lived off what they had plundered for the rest of their lives.

Japanese Samurais fought for honor - whether their own or of their masters, were bound by a code of honor, were disciplined, efficient (even as killing machines) and served loyally till their death.

Different people look at different things with a different perspective. British ruled us but that doesnt change the fact that Triumph is an excellent piece of engineering. I thought that Indians knew the art of forgiving. atleast I do.....everytime. hence I love the European bikes.

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Originally Posted by amit

Ducati for me. Though both the bikes are great, the ducati has that something extra in it which is only evident when you sit on both of them. The Yamaha feels like any production bike but sit on the Ducati and you know it's special. I don't know how the Italians manage to build in passion into everything they make but hell they do a fantastic job at it.

Is the Ducati really double the price of the R1?

NOt really, there are different editions of the bikes with the top of the line model edging at above 40K$

Steeroid · 20th January 2006, 07:14

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Originally Posted by Mpower

I dont think the Chinese are going to agree with you. Right now they are raising a hue and cry about Japanese savagery during WW2.

That was the imperial army - Hitler's forces were no european knights either.

Jokes apart, the world is not a big enough place for the 'developed world' (which is European) and the rapidly developing economies of China and India. We are already being seen as a threat to their energy and other requirements....it wont be long before we see the vicious side of the caucasian race.

ambylimo · 20th January 2006, 07:21

the frugality of picking up superbikes is a graphical explanation similar to

fighting war with F 16 Falcon and B 2 Bomber...u know the result much before the

confrontation as to who wud make mre damage...whilst DUCATI 999 resembles class and

elegance R1 is a sure shot killer...theres smethin with japanese art which makes

you weak from knees...Samurai for me man!

devarshi84 · 20th January 2006, 07:28

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Originally Posted by Mpower

I dont think the Chinese are going to agree with you. Right now they are raising a hue and cry about Japanese savagery during WW2.

No man. Right now the Chinese are up trying to prove that they discovered America with some forged 16th century map. Google for more information.

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19th January 2006, 09:12	#1
devarshi84 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ahmedabad - Tor Posts: 4,024 Thanked: 213 Times View My Garage	Japanese samurai or European Knight? I have always wanted to drive a R1 on the track but not that I wouldnt want the 999 in the same place. One is a Japanese masterpiece and other a European masterpiece. I sat on both the bikes at the Toronto motorcycle show and found Ducati fit and finish worth to pay double the price of the R1 they charge but would I really pay the amount of money that can buy me a 350Z coupe intead? what are your excerpts on this?
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19th January 2006, 09:51	#2
Rtech Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,765 Thanked: 371 Times View My Garage	Put it this way. Would a 350Z provide you with the same performance as a 999? You can't compare cars to bikes.
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19th January 2006, 10:11	#3
islero Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chennai Posts: 1,574 Thanked: 13 Times View My Garage	Exactly. Cars are nowhere as fast in a straight line, but much faster through corners, and are safer, but even the fastest car in the world can only just about match the thrills provided by a big bike.
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19th January 2006, 15:13	#4
powerslave12r BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 102 Thanked: Once	Have ridden neither, leave alone push them to their limits to realise even 1% of each one's potential. In short, no comments.
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19th January 2006, 18:11	#5
typeOnegative Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Vikhroli, Mumbai, India Posts: 1,502 Thanked: 28 Times	The R1 for me. I am a Yam guy through and through.
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19th January 2006, 19:13	#6
n_aditya Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Namma Bengaluru Posts: 5,372 Thanked: 3,806 Times View My Garage	I want an R1... ummmm ducati also would do... ok now i need to wake up to reality....
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19th January 2006, 21:02	#7
amit Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 3,712 Thanked: 451 Times	Ducati for me. Though both the bikes are great, the ducati has that something extra in it which is only evident when you sit on both of them. The Yamaha feels like any production bike but sit on the Ducati and you know it's special. I don't know how the Italians manage to build in passion into everything they make but hell they do a fantastic job at it. Is the Ducati really double the price of the R1?
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19th January 2006, 21:09	#8
The Wolf Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,119 Thanked: 76 Times	Duke of biking world, Ducati for me...Yams and Suzuki's have become boringly common!
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19th January 2006, 21:52	#9
karthik247 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR, HYD Posts: 2,710 Thanked: 30 Times	YAMAHA R1! Its styling is just so sharp and looks killer. No way ever i'll even think abt a Ducati. They are way overpriced, and i just don't understand why. Last edited by karthik247 : 19th January 2006 at 21:53.
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20th January 2006, 01:09	#10
Steeroid Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: N.A Posts: 7,025 Thanked: 2,757 Times	European Knights plundered and pillaged other lands, often showing bloodthirsty savagery, laying lands barren and carrying away women. They often grew fat and lazy and lived off what they had plundered for the rest of their lives. Japanese Samurais fought for honor - whether their own or of their masters, were bound by a code of honor, were disciplined, efficient (even as killing machines) and served loyally till their death.
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20th January 2006, 03:53	#11
Mpower Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 10,397 Thanked: 1,735 Times View My Garage	I dont think the Chinese are going to agree with you. Right now they are raising a hue and cry about Japanese savagery during WW2.
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20th January 2006, 07:21	#14
ambylimo BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: (Toronto) Ahmedabad Posts: 149 Thanked: 0 Times	the frugality of picking up superbikes is a graphical explanation similar to fighting war with F 16 Falcon and B 2 Bomber...u know the result much before the confrontation as to who wud make mre damage...whilst DUCATI 999 resembles class and elegance R1 is a sure shot killer...theres smethin with japanese art which makes you weak from knees...Samurai for me man!
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