Re: Adulterated diesel costs Audi A6 owner Rs 4.11 lakhs As someone who has made his own 'diesel' fuel for years from what comes out of the back of restaurant kitchens, I found this quite an interesting read - initially I was rather laissez-faire with my filtration and drying techniques, so suffered the effects of poor fuel - but not for long, I learned fast!
It is so interesting to see people quickly jumping in to blame one party or the other - some suggesting the doctor is conspiring to blame the fuel when in fact his car (or wife?!) is at fault, even some suggestions that he is in cahoots with his Audi dealer in trying to bring a case against the garage. Others suggesting that some fuel stations are equally culpable. Yet others that the car is typically European and fragile, and should have managed to cope with water and dirt in the fuel. Such unilaterally divided opinions are what start wars - reason and truth are the first casualties!
From how I see this story, the media - as usual - are encouraging people to follow their base instincts, with little logic or thinking applied. They want to sell newspapers/the story, so the more appalling it appears to the reader, the better.
Applying a little thought and balance to the story, I would say this. First, what the garage has done is pull fuel from the tank and have found water and 'dirt'. The natural assumption is that this obviously came from the last fuel purchase, since the car conked immediately after it was filled. There is then the massive cost of repair - a main dealer is unlikely to want to skimp on repairs of a doctor's car - imagine the story if he broke down having recieved his 'repaired' car back from the garage, on the way to an emergency.
Let's not forget that almost all modern cars' diesel injection systems are very complex, totally intolerant of dirt and water and are damaged very easily if contaminated fuel finds as it finds its way through to the injection system. A water trap can only hold a certain amount of water - rarely more than a few tens of ml. This is the same for all cars - some may have slightly larger water traps but once full these cannot prevent water from wrecking the expensive injection components.
I think it is unlikely the doctor and/or his garage are somehow trying to invent a situation blaming poor fuel for a failure caused by something else. Equally, if the fuel coming from that particular garage's pumps was so awful, many people would have broken down within half a mile of filling up.
What is possible is that the car has been regularly filled with slightly dirty, wet fuel. It is also possible that it hasn't been run low in fuel. So there could well have been a cumulative effect of the dirty fuel. If the car is driven steadily and not thrown around corners, then the water and sediments would settle out at the bottom of the tank. The tank pickup unit has two quite seperate filters in it as well as having a neat flow design so that any sediments and water in the bottom of the tank are most unlikely to be ingested by the pickup pipe and in-tank pump. Small amounts of water and particles pumped through to the engine are dealt with by the under-bonnet (hood) filter which typically filters to 5 microns and can deal with limited amounts of free water.
Maybe the tank was run a little lower than usual, and water and dirt had accumulated over many months/miles to a high level. The doctor's wife fills up with fuel, and the dirt and water at the bottom are disturbed and mixed in with the new fuel. Maybe she sits with the engine running for a minute or two before moving off - this would largely use up the fuel in the lines and under-bonnet filter. The in-tank filter in the meantime is self-destructing on a mix of water and dirt, maybe sending shards of metal as well as dirt and water through to the main filter by the engine. This would prevent the particles larger than 5 microns from passing through to the high-pressure pump, but a quantity of water mpst likely swamped through to the delicate (and hugely expensive) injection components.
So the car set off, then died almost immediately. Either through water damage or a clogged filter. The garage drained the tank and what you see in the bottle is probably the worst of it. Did anyone think to take a sample from the 'offending' filling station pump?
Having recently modified a Skoda's diesel tank sender/fuel pickup (same as any Audi's), one thought I have had is that a well-engineered car like an Audi (not perfect, and not half as well engineered as they were 20 years ago - but still a fine car) has a fuel tank pickup system which is so good at avoiding sucking up the dregs of a tank that the sludge built up to a greater level than with a very basic 'pipe into the bottom of the tank' setup which would drag up dirty fuel all the time, clogging the filters but preventing a massive build-up of contamination. Which when disturbed by pumping fuel into an almost-empty tank, overwhelmed the whole system and so caused damage.
When our fuel in Britain and Europe was of indeterminate quality with wide variation according to garage, location, time of year and other factors, motor vehicles had easily-drained fuel tanks, large filters with large water traps and mechanics and owners with common sense. It seems that Indian main dealers are not using their knowledge to adapt to local conditions - they could make good money advising their customers to have larger/additional fuel filters fitted with a regular draining routine.
Given the possibility of poor fuel, I would suggest that anyone with a modern diesel regularly drains their tank and fits a large, additional fuel filter with a large water trap in its base. Something from an old Land-Rover 300TDi would be ideal. Removing the fuel tank sender, draining the fuel tank and cleaning it out every 10,000km would only add an hour and a half to a service. Much cheaper than new pumps and injectors.
Last edited by FlatOut : 25th June 2013 at 04:56.
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