Nice to see that someone has reopened almost 2 year old thread, and found it "very" interesting! By now, my car is more than 2.5 years old... and I am used to manually switch the A/C on and off every now and then! (Though it still irritates me
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I waited for response from Varun Roy regarding service manual for some time, but later almost gave up. Didn't want to be overconfident and take chance by trying to open complicated dash board and messing up with A/C. I knew that if something went wrong, I would not only face a big pinch in the pocket, but also a lot of headache and time wastage!
Anyways, it's never too late! The good news is that I did get a chance recently to download a soft copy of baleno's service manual (thanks to team-bhp, thanks to internet!). As expected, it has ample technical details, very useful for DIY enthusiasts. Now I think I really understand how baleno A/C works. Most of my initial assumptions and conclusions so far from this thread seem to be correct. One exception is regarding how hot and cold air is mixed- I used to think that after selecting re-circulated or fresh air, the flow might be bifurcating into hot and cold streams as per the "mixer" (temperature lever) setting, and then it might be recombined. In reality, however, all the air is cooled by A/C evaporator, and later only a fraction of this "cold" air is routed through heater core (depending on the setting). Probably that is the standard in car HVAC systems today (my guess based on some other readings on the net).
Regarding temperature sensor, let me correct Shankar- mechanical thermostat seems to be the standard practice for "engine" cooling system, while for A/C it is mostly electrical sensor only. As far as baleno is concerned, it is a -ve temperature coefficient type thermistor. The service manual even provides it's resistance versus temperature curve, which is really cool info! The compressor is cut off at about 2.5 degC and cut in at 4 degC. Additionally, the compressor control mechanism uses following other interesting criteria as well:
1. cuts it off at too low and too high engine RPM.
2. cuts it off under sudden acceleration (more than 80% of accelerator pedal open for more than a few seconds or something like that).
3. cuts it off if A/C coolant pressure is too low or too high.
4. cuts it off during engine starting.
Based on this info, I think it is far...far more easy to add desired temperature control than what Shankar has suggested. All that we need to do is connect a variable resistor pot of appropriate resistance range in series with the existing thermistor... that's all! I have already done some groundwork- on last Saturday, opened the center console, disconnected A/C and mode control switches, lighter etc., and located the thermistor. Confirmed that it is thermistor indeed, by disconnecting it's wire coupler and measuring the resistance value at normal temperature. As expected it was around 2Kohm. More importantly assembled everything back with absolutely no damage to anything whatsoever! (appreciate myself
). Talked to a couple of DIY electronics friends regarding how to identify and where to get a good reliable pot, since I don't have prior experience in this field. This is what I need- a liner pot, 5-8Kohm max would be best suited. Linearity, power handling capacity and accuracy shouldn't be really important but it should be reliable enough in long run and it's temperature coefficient should be good, I think. I am also thinking of providing a switch to bypass the pot. This will enable me to quickly switch back and forth between coolest mode and "comfortable" setting without touching the pot at all. A/C is frequently required to be initially run in full blast, when you first enter the cabin on a hot sunny day. This bypass switch will thus reduce wear and tear of the pot to a great extent.
Also talked to a Maruti dealer regarding getting an exactly the same wire coupler, with which I won't need to cut even a single existing wire to make these modifications. But he said that he can't provide the coupler alone, and that I would need to buy another thermistor itself! Instead, he suggested me to visit JC road and try my luck to find a matching coupler. Frankly, I can't wait to finish the planned modification... hopefully by the next weekend it may be done. Will post the outcome here, of course... and if all goes well and successful, then I should change the name of this thread to some thing like - "Poor man's climate control" or something like that
BTW, I had seen a reference to some cheapo temperature control on the very same forum by a member called "jaggu". Tried to find more details on that, but again gave up due to lack of enough information. For all we know, may be it is the same as what I have planned for!