Team-BHP - Engine Rebuild Cost?

A friend of mine had a polo which had an underbody hit, and damaged the sump, engine ran out of oil (didnt seize though - I had him get it towed immediately after i heard that). He was hit with a 60K estimate. The last I heard, Insurance paid for it.

It was a new car, but hey, If you are going to do it anyway, worth a shot asking for insurance

I would recommend getting the work done by an independent workshop. I had a similar experience with my Figo earlier this month. Got it fixed outside ( got the car back last evening) . It cost under 50 K. This is a turbodiesel and a Ford at that so the parts are expensive. No point in spending such a big amount on a 10 year old car.

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Originally Posted by Samurai (Post 3268979)

The car has done only 69K in 9+ years since he mostly in Singapore. He loves to drive, but living in Singapore doesn't let him indulge in that hobby.

They have completely opened up the engine. Should he take the car out as is and hand it over to an independent garage?

Honda parts are bloody expensive!

Can you please ask the A.S.S, as to what exactly is wrong with the engine? I strongly believe that from an Independent garage, a lot of parts can be salvaged, unlike the dealership, which is virtually changing each and every part.

Also, can you please ask if you buy the entire half engine, it will cost the same?

Damn! Engine parts are super expensive, Honda crank is around 10 times expensive compared to a new Suzuki K engine crank. Honda engine block is almost 4 times as costly as K block from Suzuki. Probably all of these are imported.

Not worth spending this much on the 9 year old car if they don't plan to retain this vehicle for any sentimental/emotional values in which case you can't put a price on it. If so go for the total rebuild.

If its not a special car it might be worth checking out with some reputed engine rebuilder (like Kuttukaran) if they can salvage the block. In which case get the rebuild done in existing block and use the car for a while and sell it off in as is condition. Any pics of the damaged area on the block?

If the engine is fully disassembled get the supervisor from the other garage involved in the handover process and make a list of parts that are being transferred and make him confirm he has received all thats included in the list. It'll avoid any confusion or missing part blame game later in time.

Hi,
Even if one major item (crank/ block/ head) has to be changed, and the equipment is not critical, I would say source a engine from the a scrapped vehicle, or get a short block (if head is OK). Else there is always a juggad solution. Individual choice to accept or reject.

Juggad Solution:

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While assembling we found cylinder block crankshaft seating portion is minor damage due to the exessive heat generation at the time of accidental driving condition. Asper company norms we have to replace the whole cylinder block assy and its additional cost rs 1,00,000, other wise if you will agree we are ready to do the lathe work and fix it back to the car

In all probability the bearing melted and seized with the crank. Sometimes it causes the shell to turn (projecting tangs on the shell be damned!) damaging the housing. This is what I think has happened.

In that case, if the damage is slight (which I think it is, because the workshop guys had missed it initially), a competent machine shop can 'line bore' the housing. You will then need oversize shell (with bearing area undersize!) which I'm sure you will not get. The juggad solution is to use copper foil as a spacer/ backing for the shell. Recommended - no. But if one is out of options (like say working on a vintage car) it works.

Once again I'd say source an engine from a scrapped car. And check out the cost of a short block from the company.

Regards
Sutripta

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Originally Posted by lapis_lazuli (Post 3269615)

Why does the bill of materials say 8 spark plugs? please:

Do you have an iDsi engine? If so, then it had 2 spark plugs for each cylinder. Hence the 8 spark plugs :)

Is your engine an iDsi? If so then it has two spark plugs for each cylinder. Hence 8 spark plugs for 4 cylinders

Good decision. At the end of the day, even that will amount towards downpayment for the next car - and he is right, once the engine is kaput, it is difficult to get it back into absolutely tip-top condition again, and efforts to get near that, takes a toll - financially, mentally and physically.