Making a non powersteering car steering lighter.

abhibh · 3rd October 2006, 22:36

Hi,

I would like to know how can one make a non power steering car steering lighter so that its easy to drive ?

Any comments / suggestion will be good.

Thanks.

Rehaan · 4th October 2006, 08:36

Try inflating your (front) tires to a little more than you normally do.

cya
R

jyobeb · 4th October 2006, 09:02

Worn out bushes and suspension ends make your steering harder. Check for that. Caster makes a difference. Lesser +ve Caster will free up your steering but makes your car wander at higher speeds. Freeing your Rack and pinion steering by adjusting the tensioners will also free up your steering at the cost of your steering chattering.
So it looks like you have no really viable option

esteem_lover · 4th October 2006, 11:03

dude, take off your front wheels . lol

no, i dont think you can make it feel lighter by doing anything. maintain the right tyre pressure & get the steering checked for play.

kpzen · 4th October 2006, 11:44

My zen's steering became lighter with lots of oversteer when i put an upsize tyre on my stock steel rims.....But do not try this ...

nitrous · 4th October 2006, 12:32

My non PS ikon runs on stock size 155/80/R13.
Its got bare grip in city and id definitely dont dare to venture on the highways with these tires.
Since recently,i've been thinking of 175/70/R13 size tires at the rear and leave the front as it is. The upsized rears will give marginal extra grip during sudden braking/oversteer conditions.
I'd recommend the same to u.

Mpower · 4th October 2006, 19:15

Install large diameter steering wheel, like ones in old fiats.

mithun · 6th November 2006, 07:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rehaan

Try inflating your (front) tires to a little more than you normally do.

cya
R

Will this make life horrible for front passengers ?

johnruben · 17th September 2010, 03:21

Sorry for opening an old topic, but i need to know this.

I am planning to upgrade my tyres on M800, i dont mind loosing 1-2KMPL mileage, but i need lighter steering rotation like i have got now on my stock tyres(not 100%, but i can manage), Please suggest me tubeless tyre size/dimension for my M800 where my steering handling becomes more lighter.

b/w I have gone through a spine surgery and need easy steering. M800 is infact easy to steer when in motion except from stationary position and U-Turn, please advice good tyres?

Thanks
John

dmaheshkumar · 17th September 2010, 10:57

For Ambassadors we will beusing the bearing type suspension by replacing the bush type suspension.

This kind of altered suspension will be having more life than the Bush type.It will be like very smooth steering rotation.
I dont knw abt Maruti 800,But u can also enquire with ur mechanic with this type of design.

im_srini · 17th September 2010, 11:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnruben

I have gone through a spine surgery and need easy steering. M800 is infact easy to steer when in motion except from stationary position and U-Turn, please advice good tyres?
Thanks
John

Hi, check if the steering rack has a damper - loosening it will reduce steering effort.

At higher speeds though, steering will feel disconcertingly light.

johnruben · 19th September 2010, 14:22

@dmaheshkumar, @im_srini, The Steering is currently loose and if i am alone in car, its equal to a power steering, but with load its a different case.

I want to know with what tyre (Radius/Size) change i can expect the current steering settings? I have heard people saying bigger sized tyre, steering becomes hard. Please suggest me few Tyre spec where i can have the same loose steering.

I am running on 145/70-R12.

3rd October 2006, 22:36	#1
abhibh Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Back in the HOOD near you! Posts: 2,768 Thanked: 39 Times	Making a non powersteering car steering lighter. Hi, I would like to know how can one make a non power steering car steering lighter so that its easy to drive ? Any comments / suggestion will be good. Thanks.
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Rehaan Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 24,198 Thanked: 36,078 Times	Try inflating your (front) tires to a little more than you normally do. cya R
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4th October 2006, 09:02	#3
jyobeb Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Madurai Posts: 1,009 Thanked: 705 Times	Worn out bushes and suspension ends make your steering harder. Check for that. Caster makes a difference. Lesser +ve Caster will free up your steering but makes your car wander at higher speeds. Freeing your Rack and pinion steering by adjusting the tensioners will also free up your steering at the cost of your steering chattering. So it looks like you have no really viable option Last edited by jyobeb : 4th October 2006 at 09:03.
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4th October 2006, 11:03	#4
esteem_lover Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Madras/Py Posts: 7,556 Thanked: 513 Times View My Garage	dude, take off your front wheels . lol no, i dont think you can make it feel lighter by doing anything. maintain the right tyre pressure & get the steering checked for play.
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4th October 2006, 11:44	#5
kpzen Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Faridabad Posts: 5,609 Thanked: 1,882 Times View My Garage	My zen's steering became lighter with lots of oversteer when i put an upsize tyre on my stock steel rims.....But do not try this ...
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4th October 2006, 12:32	#6
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 333 Times View My Garage	My non PS ikon runs on stock size 155/80/R13. Its got bare grip in city and id definitely dont dare to venture on the highways with these tires. Since recently,i've been thinking of 175/70/R13 size tires at the rear and leave the front as it is. The upsized rears will give marginal extra grip during sudden braking/oversteer conditions. I'd recommend the same to u.
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4th October 2006, 19:15	#7
Mpower Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 10,399 Thanked: 1,735 Times View My Garage	Install large diameter steering wheel, like ones in old fiats.
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17th September 2010, 03:21	#9
johnruben BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 221 Thanked: 85 Times View My Garage	Sorry for opening an old topic, but i need to know this. I am planning to upgrade my tyres on M800, i dont mind loosing 1-2KMPL mileage, but i need lighter steering rotation like i have got now on my stock tyres(not 100%, but i can manage), Please suggest me tubeless tyre size/dimension for my M800 where my steering handling becomes more lighter. b/w I have gone through a spine surgery and need easy steering. M800 is infact easy to steer when in motion except from stationary position and U-Turn, please advice good tyres? Thanks John
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17th September 2010, 10:57	#10
dmaheshkumar BANNED Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Coimbatore Posts: 217 Thanked: 167 Times	For Ambassadors we will beusing the bearing type suspension by replacing the bush type suspension. This kind of altered suspension will be having more life than the Bush type.It will be like very smooth steering rotation. I dont knw abt Maruti 800,But u can also enquire with ur mechanic with this type of design.
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19th September 2010, 14:22	#12
johnruben BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 221 Thanked: 85 Times View My Garage	@dmaheshkumar, @im_srini, The Steering is currently loose and if i am alone in car, its equal to a power steering, but with load its a different case. I want to know with what tyre (Radius/Size) change i can expect the current steering settings? I have heard people saying bigger sized tyre, steering becomes hard. Please suggest me few Tyre spec where i can have the same loose steering. I am running on 145/70-R12.
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