My Esteem did not start today

bhogalrajnish · 20th October 2006, 02:41

Hi,

Today I tried starting my car and the starter did not crack at all.
The stereo front lights etc are working fine.

The car is also not showing the ECU check light though the Oil and Battery lights come up when the key is turned on.

Can it be the battery or is it the ECU thats gone bad.

airfoil · 20th October 2006, 09:15

Start by verifying that none of the fuses are blown.

Your owner's manual wil help you locate the fuse box if you're unfamiliar with it's location.

theMAG · 20th October 2006, 09:22

Suspect your starter's blown. ECUs typically never conk since they don't contain any moving parts and are solid-state electronics.

You might also want to check if your battery's charge is lower than required. If the battery is in a weakened charge level, that would explain your lights and stereo glowing but no juice for the starter.

Jaggu · 20th October 2006, 10:15

check fuse for starter, while cranking see if starter solenoid is working, will give u a thuck sound, if no then fuse or a faulty starter

switch on head lights and crank, if head lights goes putt, ur battery needs check up and while at it check your charging system also

esteem_lover · 20th October 2006, 11:17

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Originally Posted by theMAG

Suspect your starter's blown. ECUs typically never conk since they don't contain any moving parts and are solid-state electronics.

You might also want to check if your battery's charge is lower than required. If the battery is in a weakened charge level, that would explain your lights and stereo glowing but no juice for the starter.

i dont think the battery is bad. it could just be the ignition switch that has gone bad. starter motors do not malfunction that easily. please call maruti & get it done. 1800111515

pramodkumar · 22nd October 2006, 18:44

Hi Try this !!

There is a solonoid ignition switch jut hit it with a jack rod and see if it cranks after that because the solonoid switch gets stuck at times else the carbon contacts of the starter motor may have gone bad. any ways this jugad will save you from those dirty situations as the car will at least start.

Pramod

bhogalrajnish · 24th October 2006, 23:53

Got the issue resolved . It was the battery gone bad.

Another intresting thing happened .
I tried to start the car with the bad battery by jump starting it .
The engine did not idle at all thgough the car started . I was not able to keep the car alive at idle.
Dose the alternator need some amount of current to run ? After putting in the new battery and starting the car I disconnected the negetive terminal . The car still did not die-- IE the alternator works fine.
I switched on the AC , headlights and streo still the car was fine.
Hence is it that the alternater once fed on current will keep on running else it dose not work properly ? or the ECU dose not let the car run without the battery.

Vid6639 · 24th October 2006, 23:58

I noticed the same thing in my lancer. the car not being able to idle when the battery was dead. i had to continuously keep giving throttle to keep the engine up. as soon as i put in the new battery it became fine.

I'm guessing the ECU runs on the battery directly or like you mentioned the ECU doesnt allow the car to remain on with a dead battery.

esteem_lover · 25th October 2006, 11:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhogalrajnish

Hi,

Today I tried starting my car and the starter did not crack at all.

Quote:

The stereo front lights etc are working fine.

The car is also not showing the ECU check light though the Oil and Battery lights come up when the key is turned on.

Can it be the battery or is it the ECU thats gone bad.

your stereo & front lights were fine with the old battery too. just be sure that it was the battery & not some loose contact. check the old battery.

bhogalrajnish · 26th October 2006, 23:51

I did disconnect the terminals opened the battery lids and short the terminals using a wire two of the cells did bubble up I beleave that means that two cells have gone bad. .

20th October 2006, 02:41	#1
bhogalrajnish BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 215 Thanked: 67 Times	My Esteem did not start today Hi, Today I tried starting my car and the starter did not crack at all. The stereo front lights etc are working fine. The car is also not showing the ECU check light though the Oil and Battery lights come up when the key is turned on. Can it be the battery or is it the ECU thats gone bad.
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20th October 2006, 09:15	#2
airfoil BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 318 Thanked: 81 Times	Start by verifying that none of the fuses are blown. Your owner's manual wil help you locate the fuse box if you're unfamiliar with it's location.
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20th October 2006, 09:22	#3
theMAG Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Avon, CT Posts: 7,217 Thanked: 1,811 Times View My Garage	Suspect your starter's blown. ECUs typically never conk since they don't contain any moving parts and are solid-state electronics. You might also want to check if your battery's charge is lower than required. If the battery is in a weakened charge level, that would explain your lights and stereo glowing but no juice for the starter.
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20th October 2006, 10:15	#4
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,319 Thanked: 16,668 Times	check fuse for starter, while cranking see if starter solenoid is working, will give u a thuck sound, if no then fuse or a faulty starter switch on head lights and crank, if head lights goes putt, ur battery needs check up and while at it check your charging system also
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22nd October 2006, 18:44	#6
pramodkumar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Gods own country Posts: 2,302 Thanked: 2,244 Times View My Garage	Hi Try this !! There is a solonoid ignition switch jut hit it with a jack rod and see if it cranks after that because the solonoid switch gets stuck at times else the carbon contacts of the starter motor may have gone bad. any ways this jugad will save you from those dirty situations as the car will at least start. Pramod
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24th October 2006, 23:53	#7
bhogalrajnish BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 215 Thanked: 67 Times	Got the issue resolved . It was the battery gone bad. Another intresting thing happened . I tried to start the car with the bad battery by jump starting it . The engine did not idle at all thgough the car started . I was not able to keep the car alive at idle. Dose the alternator need some amount of current to run ? After putting in the new battery and starting the car I disconnected the negetive terminal . The car still did not die-- IE the alternator works fine. I switched on the AC , headlights and streo still the car was fine. Hence is it that the alternater once fed on current will keep on running else it dose not work properly ? or the ECU dose not let the car run without the battery.
	() Thanks

24th October 2006, 23:58	#8
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,757 Thanked: 43,811 Times View My Garage	I noticed the same thing in my lancer. the car not being able to idle when the battery was dead. i had to continuously keep giving throttle to keep the engine up. as soon as i put in the new battery it became fine. I'm guessing the ECU runs on the battery directly or like you mentioned the ECU doesnt allow the car to remain on with a dead battery.
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26th October 2006, 23:51	#10
bhogalrajnish BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 215 Thanked: 67 Times	I did disconnect the terminals opened the battery lids and short the terminals using a wire two of the cells did bubble up I beleave that means that two cells have gone bad. .
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