[Dr.Naren]

Thanks to Mr. Febin for sharing this!

TPMS was showing low pressure for rear right tyre (wrong reading). Odo was just 142 Kms.



The issue was due to faulty wheel sensor and he got all 4 sensors replaced under warranty.

[comfortablynumb]

"The more things change, the more they remain the same" seems to be the most apt axiom for M&M's new launches. That's why the oft repeated advice to wait for a year after launch before buying.

Good move to have a separate thread, makes it easier for current owners to search for solutions and for prospective owners to get an idea of what they are letting themselves in for.

I guess the only silver lining is the relatively hassle free (for the customers) resolution of some of these issues detected till now. Hope the remaining ones are also addressed satisfactorily sooner rather than later.

[ph03n!x]

Originally Posted by Jaggu

Anyone faced this error? 'DEF Dosing malfunction error - E22' and any known resolution? a friend who has one of the first deliveries from BLR is facing this issue.

My experience - this is a wiring issue. The dealer should check the wiring to all sensors involved for DEF and ensure that the wiring for the male/ female sockets are proper. The error code investigation should tell the dealer which sensor is not reporting it right - MRV engineers come into conference if the dealer's technical team requests them.

Changing the wiring harness might fix this, but you'll not know what other socket will be loose in the new harness.

Make no mistake - Wiring Harness related loose connections are the Achilles Heel for the new Thar. Most of the errors a new Thar owner encounters will boil down to that .

My Thar has completed 8500+ KM, and more than 6000 KM after the fuel sensor issue was fixed by re-crimping wire connecting the sensor in the fuel filter end and the ECU end as well. No issues <touchwood!> at all since then.

Originally Posted by slicvic

I got my LX CT Diesel on Saturday - after a drive of about 150 kms - the vehicle went into Limp mode The dealer picked up the vehicle from my house on monday. Error code shown on the diagnostics was related to the injectors - They have been advised by Mahindra to change the wiring harness. Its not in stock and they will do so once they get it in stock or at first service.

Damn! Just replied to your PM about PDI and then saw this! If your dealership is competent enough, there should crimp the connectors to the injectors - they won't have to remove or disturb the injectors, just the connection.

Hope you get your Thar back soon, and this sour experience fades away real soon!

[slicvic]

Originally Posted by slicvic

They have been advised by Mahindra to change the wiring harness. Its not in stock and they will do so once they get it in stock or at first service.

Update - I picked up the vehicle yesterday evening. Dealer had said they were not able to pick up any fault during their 30km test drive

I developed problems again - after 20 odd kms - the car now stalls at random intervals - the engine just stops. Cranking the engine does not make it start - you first have to switch it off totally, then crank it for it to start.

Kept the vehicle at the workshop today, no point in retaining the vehicle with me - its not usable. Also thought that if the vehicle is parked there, I can ask for daily updates and they might speed up the process.

[Dr.Naren]

Originally Posted by slicvic

Update - I picked up the vehicle yesterday evening. Dealer had said they were not able to pick up any fault during their 30km test drive

I developed problems again - after 20 odd kms - the car now stalls at random intervals - the engine just stops. Cranking the engine does not make it start - you first have to switch it off totally, then crank it for it to start.

Service centre should connect the diagnostic tool and take readings during the entire test drive. If the problem occurs during that time, it would be easy to figure it out by sending the entire log to the technical team at Mahindra.

Originally Posted by GTO

Guys, keeping in mind the many niggles & problems of a car that was launched just a few months ago, we have to unfortunately create this new thread. Some BHPian posts have been copied here.

I just come across this

https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/india...oon-curse.html

The owner is facing multiple issues in his brand new Thar.

[slicvic]

Originally Posted by Dr.Naren

Service centre should connect the diagnostic tool and take readings during the entire test drive. If the problem occurs during that time, it would be easy to figure it out by sending the entire log to the technical team at Mahindra.

They did it - error code P2149 - Fuel injector supply voltage circuit / open was detected

On inspection of the resistance at the 'injector pin' no defect was found - hence they have been advised to change the 'engine wiring harness'

[balenoed_]

While there could be niggles and problems on a newly brewed machine, what is surprising is that, this is happening on something that is advertised as a rugged and "go anywhere" vehicle.

What if you go anywhere to a remotest place (say a desert, on top of a hill, in a trench and so on..) and get stuck there in the middle of a night. What is the point in having only the mechanicals rugged but electricals being so pathetic. What is the use of electronic BLDs when your injector itself is not working. Also heard some of them are mere loose contacts and connector/coupler issues. Can't Mahindra get even such basic components right in first time, on a vehicle that is sold at close to 2 million price bracket.

Sorry about the rant, but this is what is the worrying part and I feel for the early buyers. They should surely get an incentive or price discounts for being the guinea pigs.

[justwheels]

If I am not wrong, Mahindra has sold atleast around 5k or 6k Thars already since deliveries started. Basis older Thar sales, this could be their 1 year sales the last time Thar was launched. The number of niggles and issues, most of which are not component failures but wiring issues, sealant issues and connector issues clearly shows that the new assembly line is not trained or is under too much pressure.
If a manufacture who was #3 in market uptil sometime back, has such pathetic QC, god save the consumers.

On the contrary, there are so many Thars doing spiti circuit, Himachal, Sikkim etc. in the snow and in offroading events without any issues. Sporadic issues poping up in city cars means we hear more when the average consumer feels the pain, enthusiasts probably have made peace with it and know how to handle matters.

Enthusiasts have contacts, good service guys they know and experiences that help them through this ordeal, but for the average consumer who bought Thar for it's novelty and heart over head purchase is going to face a lot because of Mahindra's apathy towards building a niggle free vehicle from Day 1. I am one of them waiting for my delivery, and I am really worried.

Wish we had a way to summarize this thread and have Anand Mahindra read it and know what his company is upto.

[shinuak]

Originally Posted by SportsMedicine

While i don't know much on the technical side. My Thar used to drag left at all any speed on leaving the steering even for few seconds. Also to go straight the steering had to be kept 5 degree on right side. I didn't notice this thing till my OCD came into action.

I thought about various reasons namely tyre pressure, alignment, balancing and steering calibration. PSI was perfect. My strong doubt was on steering calibration.

Thar was sent to the service team and issue was off centring of toe nut of tie rod. It wasn't properly aligned with the steering column. It was centered and steering re-calibrated. Now my Thar goes straight flawlessly at all speeds and steering is straight too.

Many Thar owners are posting regarding alignment/ balancing issues not being fixed even on multiple workshop visits. They might have the same problem as mine. I hope this helps.

@SportsMedicine, thanks for sharing this info. My cousin who owns a Thar has the same issue and the folks at service center couldn't fix. They tried alignment correction multiple times, but it still persists. Hope Mahindra takes note of this issue and issues an advisory to all dealers. I have told him about your experience and asked him to share with the folks at ASS.

[Jaggu]

Originally Posted by Jaggu

Anyone faced this error? 'DEF Dosing malfunction error - E22' and any known resolution? a friend who has one of the first deliveries from BLR is facing this issue.

No reverts till now so the usual twitter route being tried lol
https://twitter.com/satskb/status/1365203012768047105

[TrackDay]

Originally Posted by balenoed_

Sorry about the rant, but this is what is the worrying part and I feel for the early buyers. They should surely get an incentive or price discounts for being the guinea pigs.

Sadly this is true for almost every new vehicle out there. The first customers are the ones who will bear this risk

Originally Posted by justwheels

Sporadic issues poping up in city cars means we hear more when the average consumer feels the pain, enthusiasts probably have made peace with it and know how to handle matters.

Enthusiasts have contacts, good service guys they know and experiences that help them through this ordeal, but for the average consumer who bought Thar for it's novelty and heart over head purchase is going to face a lot because of Mahindra's apathy towards building a niggle free vehicle from Day 1.

I completely agree with this. The previous generation Thar was mainly owned by folks who knew a thing or two about the car and also knew folks or FNG's who could fix issues. However the new Gen one appeals to a broader audience, some who cant even change a flat tire themselves. Mahindra needs to retain those customers by fixing these niggles.

[Storm2.0]

Originally Posted by GTO

Guys, keeping in mind the many niggles & problems of a car that was launched just a few months ago, we have to unfortunately create this new thread. Some BHPian posts have been copied here.

Big thanks to Dr. Naren for his suggestion & help in creating this thread .

Would suggest all Bhpians to wait for a year and go for improved and niggle free v2.0 just like in the case of Tata Harrier.

[Rajiv0909]

Imagine reading this thread after concluding over 900 kms in a day. Did Pune - Udaipur on my D - AT. Thankfully no major issues in the 3500 odd kms so far. A couple of niggles though:

1. Whistling sound from the aircon (can get really irritating on long runs). Tested 3 different Thars for the same symptom at the service Center. All 3 had this sound but at different frequencies. It is prominent when 1 of the 4 vents is closed and the blower is at 1 position

2. Carpet locks have come off

3. Mine is a HT and I observed just today that fine dust makes in to the cabin while driving at high speeds (100-120 kmph) for long distances.

From whatever I have read so far, there are no broad based issues but a few isolated instances. As long as they can be attended to, don’t think there’s a reason to worry

Originally Posted by Jaggu

Anyone faced this error? 'DEF Dosing malfunction error - E22' and any known resolution? a friend who has one of the first deliveries from BLR is facing this issue.

There seems to be a process mentioned in the owners manual. I’m sure you would have tried that already

[fine69]

Imagine buying an 88,000 kms run SUV, driving & touring with it for 60,000 more kms and not having to visit the service center EVER except routine service.

I know its tough for Thar owners to imagine but that's what I got for buying a Toyota and what you're experiencing is what you get for buying a Mahindra, that too their niche vehicle!

Sorry, I don't want to rub it in anymore but as GTO said, you were warned!

I'm head over heels for a Grey (or maybe Black) Petrol AT Thar but holding my horses until 2022 for sure. There's no certainty that the car will be niggle free then, I mean c'mon, its a Thar after all, you MUST visit the service centre a few times except the routine service to get the total Jeep experience (haha) and that's where Mahindra can proudly say that they haven't copied the Wrangler completely (haha again).

If there's anything that one can learn from being a bhpian is to wait out new Tatas n Mahindras and when taking the plunge later on, be mentally prepared!

Lastly, would request all posters to continue to update the resolution to their issues because it'll come handy for not just bhpians but a lot of other Thar owners who're equally frustrated with issues and looking for both solace & resolution.

[slicvic]

Originally Posted by Rajiv0909

Imagine reading this thread after concluding over 900 kms in a day. Did Pune - Udaipur on my D - AT. Thankfully no major issues in the 3500 odd kms so far.

How old is your vehicle. What is the serial number ?

I guess these niggles are with a particular batch

The serial number of my vehicle is 77XX