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Old 25th August 2021, 12:58   #91
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Re: 2nd-gen Mahindra Thar | Niggles, Problems & Solutions

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I meant thermosetting, why one would want to use thermoplastics in areas exposed to constant high heat and temperatures?
Actually, most of the plastics used in automobiles are thermoplastics. Not only are thermoplastics recyclable, they can be made into a far greater variety of shapes, sizes, designs and textures and you can actually engineer them to withstand all kinds of conditions. Use of thermosetting plastics is generally limited to electrical accessories and equipment, crockery and odd items like buttons, pressure cooker handles etc.

Coming to this particular case of washer nozzles melting, this is most likely a case of a bad batch and should be replaced by Mahindra without any fuss. Ideally, there should be a silent recall.
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Old 26th August 2021, 06:45   #92
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Re: 2021 Thar- windshield fogging issue

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I have the same issue as well. I believe this happens because there’s AC leaking from the vents placed behind the windscreen. The irony is these vents are used for de-fogging the windows and it does the exact opposite.
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Last night on my way home I realised complete rear glass was badly fogged up and I was wishing Thar came with a rear wiper 😞

I thought of taking a picture but I was driving in a rush to get home amidst traffic.

I’m not sure others are experimenting fogging issue on rear glass? 🤔
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Old 27th August 2021, 17:28   #93
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Last night on my way home I realised complete rear glass was badly fogged up and I was wishing Thar came with a rear wiper 😞
All you would have to do is use the rear demister. No need for a rear wiper unless its muck that is stuck onto the rear glass
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Old 20th September 2021, 23:11   #94
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Re: 2021 Thar- windshield fogging issue

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Good morning!

I took delivery of LX D AT HT last night and while driving around 9PM (with humid conditions), severe windshield fogging appears on the exterior of the lower middle windshield.

I’ve read about similar experiences on other Thars, is this on all Thars (AC vents leaking) or just few random Thars?

Any information on proper dealership fixes (besides blocking vents in that area as a temp fix)?

Thank you in advance!!
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Hi I too have similar problem, and checked with ASC twice, during my first visit that was after my first service, the ASC shrugged it off as “AC is very powerful and small leakages from defrosting vent is common that is why the problem, common for all thars”. I was sold to their justification.. later on after reading about the issue here (team-bhp)I was convinced that it is a manufacturing defect not only limited to my Thar but maybe the whole lot. I then called up the Customercare, wrote mails about the issue and lodged a complaint. After that I received phone calls from ASC asking me to bring my Thar to them. Before I visited I made some videos of the issue and shared it with the service manager so that he can cross check with other Thars in the dealership yard and look for solutions beforehand ( which they never did). So I took my vehicle today 20/09/2021 to the ASC, the service manger patched me up with their Technical Manager and he inspected the vehicle in my presence, I showed him that when blower is set only to foot position, the leakage from defrosting vent increases. Thereafter we cross checked with a new Thar ( Diesel AT) without head unit in the yard and it too had same issues. The Technical Manager was smart and he escalated the problem to the plant by sending the VIN no. of both vehicles. He was instructed to focus on customer’s vehicle. Later on the plant raised the issue with equipment supplier in Kolkata.
Finally Diagnosis & Solution
The supplier informed that the problem is with the hinge which controls the movement of the flaps and to rectify the issue, the hinge needs to be replaced.
Within 30 mins the Technical Manager received the SOP ( how to & what to replace with pictures) in pdf format in his WhatsApp.
Sad part is I have to wait for some days as the hinges are not in stock and are being couriered.
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Hi I too have similar problem, and checked with ASC twice, during my first visit that was after my first service, the ASC shrugged it off as “AC is very powerful and small leakages from defrosting vent is common that is why the problem, common for all thars”.
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Within 30 mins the Technical Manager received the SOP ( how to & what to replace with pictures) in pdf format in his WhatsApp.
Sad part is I have to wait for some days as the hinges are not in stock and are being couriered.
Any update on your vehicle brother? Were the flaps changed? Has the issue been resolved? Your input will be of great help, this is a recurring issue with a lot of vehicles. Thanks

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Hi I too have similar problem, and checked with ASC twice, during my first visit that was after my first service, the ASC shrugged it off as “AC is very powerful and small leakages from defrosting vent is common that is why the problem, common for all thars”. I was sold to their justification.. later on after reading about the issue here (team-bhp)I was convinced that it is a manufacturing defect not only limited to my Thar but maybe the whole lot. I then called up the Customercare, wrote mails about the issue and lodged a complaint. After that I received phone calls from ASC asking me to bring my Thar to them. Before I visited I made some videos of the issue and shared it with the service manager so that he can cross check with other Thars in the dealership yard and look for solutions beforehand ( which they never did). So I took my vehicle today 20/09/2021 to the ASC, the service manger patched me up with their Technical Manager and he inspected the vehicle in my presence, I showed him that when blower is set only to foot position, the leakage from defrosting vent increases. Thereafter we cross checked with a new Thar ( Diesel AT) without head unit in the yard and it too had same issues. The Technical Manager was smart and he escalated the problem to the plant by sending the VIN no. of both vehicles. He was instructed to focus on customer’s vehicle. Later on the plant raised the issue with equipment supplier in Kolkata.
Finally Diagnosis & Solution
The supplier informed that the problem is with the hinge which controls the movement of the flaps and to rectify the issue, the hinge needs to be replaced.
Within 30 mins the Technical Manager received the SOP ( how to & what to replace with pictures) in pdf format in his WhatsApp.
Sad part is I have to wait for some days as the hinges are not in stock and are being couriered.
Hi, first of all my apologies for the delay in posting an update about the issue.
The hinges arrived within 5 days in the ASC Mahindra Tezpur, Assam but I visited the ASC on the 28th of September 2021. On reaching the ASC, the Technical and Service managers greeted me warmly and took in my vehicles immediately. The Tech. Manager handed over the hinge to a technician and asked him to replace it. With only the fuse cover and lower part of steering column cover to be removed, it was done in 15 mins.2nd-gen Mahindra Thar | Niggles, Problems & Solutions-0b68bde35487441e909a7b9dd58618a6.jpeg2nd-gen Mahindra Thar | Niggles, Problems & Solutions-44df57cc506b4c0d8055f3d8f0759ab3.jpeg
We checked for the issue with the part replaced.
Observations
1.) with blower setting set to front only or front and foot, the leakage is negligible.
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2.) with blower setting set to foot only, there is still considerable leakage of air from the defogging vents located on top of dashboard.
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ASC response to observations
The Technical manager called the concerned people in Mahindra and reported that the problem is not resolved with the part changed. He was then told that the pressure of air leaking has been reduced from 4.3psi to about 2 psi with the hinge changed and everything else is as per plan and design ( observation 2 too).
Conclusion
As per my experience after the hinge change, I have not yet observed any fogging with my blower setting set to front and temp. set even to the coldest . However I am in doubt if observation 2 is by design. I also observed that the tech. manager had a manual for how the AC should be operated in Thar to avoid fogging. I had asked for the pdf of both files(sop for replacing hinge and the manual) from him but was refused stating that he is not allowed to share with customers and it is only meant for ASC people.
I do believe that the stalwarts of Team-bhp are in a better position to confirm if observation 2 is by design or a flaw which Mahindra is not willing to accept and cover up
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Re: 2nd-gen Mahindra Thar | Niggles, Problems & Solutions

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Back to ASC No.5 in 5 Months

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Been a while, did this issue get resolved?
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Re: 2nd-gen Mahindra Thar | Niggles, Problems & Solutions

Took delivery of my Thar Diesel LX AT HT recently.

I did not drive the Thar from showroom to my home, instead I followed it with my Ecosport AT.
Next morning I noticed the glossy black cap on the knob present at the center of the AC air vent (Central air vent) is missing from the passenger side central airvent. Might have fallen off.

The image with the red arrow is my DIY jugaad of the black tip/cap (Note the matte finish), whereas the one pointed with the green arrow is the normal glossy tip/cap of the AC knob.
Btw the black tip was salvaged from a airdam clip of Maruti Suzuki Celerio. Just cut off the stem and glued the cap on the AC central knob. Not perfect by any means, but atleast not an eyesore for now.

Extremely sorry for the image quality and the lack of before and after images. I forgot to click picture of the knob before covering it up

Yes, the AC vent could be replaced at the service center, but I don't want any invasive procedure done on my brand new car. I saw the infotainment system installation where the Mahindra accessories guy used a flat head screw driver instead of a plastic pry tool. Anyways, the AC vent is not in stock, neither it is available in m2all or boodmo.

I will rather DIY replace my AC vents with Mercedes AMG styled AC vents from the aftermarket. The stock AC vents knob is very flimsy.

Another thing I noticed is free play on my brake pedal. 3-4mm of free play is present. And free play is pretty loose. 2-3 mm of free play is also present on my Ecosport AT, but the pedal still feels a bit stiff compared to my Thar.
Don't know if its normal or not. Will have to take the Thar out for a longer drive session to check it out
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Re: 2nd-gen Mahindra Thar | Niggles, Problems & Solutions

So my bonnet stay rod clip broke while taking out the rod. It seems positioned at a very peculiar angle and seems like predisposed to breaking off.

Also how do I keep this stay rod in place now without hanging down the bonnet into engine bay.

Is it a plug and play replacement ?? Upon inspection at boodmo, it seems like an interchangeable part with the kuv100.
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Old 19th October 2021, 16:02   #100
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Re: 2nd-gen Mahindra Thar | Niggles, Problems & Solutions

This is from my own post on the official review thread.

I have taken the delivery of a Petrol AT HT last week and after about 350kms or so experienced some noise issues while breaking (especially over 50kms). When I took it to the service station the mechanic informed the the rear drums need changing. It seemed as if this might be a known issue (not sure though). Just a heads up if others have faced something similar (especially in Gujarat).

Car is going tomorrow to the station for the work. Will update after I get it back.

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Re: 2nd-gen Mahindra Thar | Niggles, Problems & Solutions

Hi All,

Below are the major issues I faced so far in last 7 months with my Thar LX HT AT Diesel.

1. Windshield fogging Issue

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Have been facing this issue since I took delivery of the vehicle. I have taken my Thar twice to rectify this issue. 70% of the issue is resolved after two visits. Technician directly from Mahindra Plant had attended the issue. But still there is some leakage. This is something Mahindra cannot solve fully and seems this is a design issue.
I have kept dashboard mats as a work around.

2. Tyre Rubbing against suspension stabilizer bar

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Recently noticed this issue and taken to service center. They told its resolved. But I am yet to check out this extensively. Seems this too is a design issue with the Thar as many other owners are also facing this issue but many might not have noticed. This is also another serious issue which will lead to excessive wear out of tyre.

3. Broken AC Vents
This has been replaced under warranty
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Re: 2nd-gen Mahindra Thar | Niggles, Problems & Solutions

Has anyone observed considerable handling differences between cars sold till Jan’21 and the ones from May and June? I own a Jan 21 made Thar Diesel and had the opportunity to try June build Thar diesel. There was significant differences in the way the newer Thar handles, feedback from the steering is more direct and adds to confidence while Jan builds feel vague.
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Old 24th October 2021, 19:54   #103
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I took my Thar for a 500 km long drive.
During my Highway drive, I noticed knocking sound from the rear brakes upon moderate to hard braking. Is it the drum brakes issue, like any issue with the brake shoes?

Although braking efficiency is not effected. This knocking sound on braking is worrisome. I plan to get it checked at the service center ASAP.

Any idea what it could be?

Yes, Windshield fogging was also observed but only in the evening time. Daytime, it was completely fine. Will keep an eye regarding the fogging issue, I can wait for this till the first service, but the brake issue needs to be addressed soon

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Old 25th October 2021, 17:52   #104
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A quick update to say the service centre has replaced the rear left drum today. They took half a day to do so. I hope no more niggles will present themselves in near future. The service centre was reasonably efficient in handling this issue but not so happy with the quality control.
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Another little issue has surfaced today after the rear drum replacement. The ICE and entire display (including dash meters) restarted while driving, following which the hill hold and one other sign came up. Car kept running fine without any issues (at least for a few meters anyway until I stopped). I then stopped and restarted the car and all went back to normal. Not sure if this is a serious issue or not but if it happens again it will have to go back to service station again. I saw this reported as part of a longer thread somewhere else on this forum where the owner reported that as a sensor being exposed or something similar?

Beta testing has started it seems.
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