How tuff are they??

lohithrao · 31st May 2007, 14:44

Am one among people who love to travel on thier own...... so might be driving or riding.. one has to be ready to face any kind of road conditions.....so a question comes to my mind quiet often.... "to tour "Suv's" are recomended or can the "sedan's" aslo can take some beating??

i have a OHC...till now have noticed that ground clearence is what i need to worry in some places... other then that the car can take most of the roads....here am not talking about offroading part

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Want to know how much beating can a sedan take compared to the suv's???

thanks ...

tsk1979 · 31st May 2007, 15:11

Cars are pretty tough. Some are more tough than others. For roughshod use we have found that the Tata's are tough. Our 800 used to require a new bushkit every 4 months due to farm visits, but indica changed all that.
Among other cars, I have seen that the Getz also takes abuse well, with hardly any rattles creeping in.
Even the Palio is very hardy, the high profile tires playing their part here.
As for GC, if you are careful, you will not scrape even on the worst highways, of course you cant run around with gay abandon in a sedan.
That said the modern heavy sedans with thicker panels are more robust than thin sheet cars like Santro/Esteem/Wagon R etc., when it comes to rattles which creep in due to rough use.

Shan2nu · 31st May 2007, 16:18

Except GC and traction probs, cars can pretty much handle the worst of roads.

Cars are pretty competent that way. I've take my Vtec on really bad roads and it had no issues getting through it.

Shan2nu

dadu · 31st May 2007, 17:20

Most vehicles are nowadays very robust unless a problem is already present and you venture out with it. I have driven vehicles with roads/no roads, in mud, gravel, in villages and across small streams of water.

The only precaution is to not to test your vehicle no matter SUV or sedans with water, unless you know that the depth is well below.

One way to check if you face similar situation is to walk through the water first (to check the depth) and even never try to pass small streams during rainy season with gushing water flow (the pressure is too much and the soil loose).

zenx · 31st May 2007, 17:49

Lesser roads in Munnar, lotsa car-width stretches and impossible 3 point turns in Coorg, Bannerghata road for 3 years in its worst phase - the ol' 1.3 has seen it all!!! Cars are plenty tough!

abhilashvk · 31st May 2007, 17:54

Baleno with bigger tyres also can take bad roads pretty well !

.anshuman · 1st June 2007, 00:19

Ive been torturing my accent for years now,no rattles no issues except for GC at some very high speed breakers.Sedans have better dynamic ability which translates into more comfortable drive at speeds whereas with SUV's we need to be more careful because of high COG and body roll but it all depends on how broken are the roads.

abhaybakshi · 1st June 2007, 10:14

In the past my Esteem (type II) had seen really rough roads in Karnataka (Badami) without any rattles or tyre punctures. Actually they were not roads but paths with some patches of tar for a change.....

I am almost sure that my Swift can not take this road again without rattles set in afterwards..Swift is just not a car for bad roads.

I find Maruti Gypsy to be the super silent car on bad roads

DieselFan · 1st June 2007, 11:10

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Originally Posted by abhaybakshi

I am almost sure that my Swift can not take this road again without rattles set in afterwards..Swift is just not a car for bad roads.

I have to disagree here. Swift D is an improved car. I have taken it in places where there were no roads or roads with only potholes driving pretty confortably. The car has come out unblemished. It is rugged and it has a high ground clearence of 170 mm. which is an advantage driving in rural areas.

kkr2k2 · 1st June 2007, 14:02

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Originally Posted by tsk1979

Cars are pretty tough. Some are more tough than others. For roughshod use we have found that the Tata's are tough. Our 800 used to require a new bushkit every 4 months due to farm visits, but indica changed all that.

our indica has gone to places where only SUVs can go. thats the reason we decided not to sell it in last feb. as we were planning to have farm house.

lohithrao · 4th June 2007, 15:56

Thanks guys for the responses.

Agree cars are tuff, and i think the only issue is the ground clearence. but have noticed that the suvs like "Safari" "Scorpio" "Innova" dont have that great ground clearence.

tsk1979 · 4th June 2007, 16:04

Nope, they are tough, but SUVs are tougher. You hit a deep crater at 60kmph on a SUV, you will get jarred, but in a sedan you may brake a strut. So if you take your sedan to a non existant road you have to be very careful, and you cannot drive with the same carelessness which can be forgiven in a SUV.
But with careful driving, and absence of bottom scraping ruts or slush, on a very bad road your sedan will do fine. With a SUV you will be able to go faster without harming your vehicle.

31st May 2007, 14:44	#1
lohithrao Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Kudla/Mangaluru Posts: 3,204 Thanked: 225 Times View My Garage	How tuff are they?? Am one among people who love to travel on thier own...... so might be driving or riding.. one has to be ready to face any kind of road conditions.....so a question comes to my mind quiet often.... "to tour "Suv's" are recomended or can the "sedan's" aslo can take some beating?? i have a OHC...till now have noticed that ground clearence is what i need to worry in some places... other then that the car can take most of the roads....here am not talking about offroading part... Want to know how much beating can a sedan take compared to the suv's??? thanks ...
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31st May 2007, 15:11	#2
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,717 Thanked: 22,825 Times View My Garage	Cars are pretty tough. Some are more tough than others. For roughshod use we have found that the Tata's are tough. Our 800 used to require a new bushkit every 4 months due to farm visits, but indica changed all that. Among other cars, I have seen that the Getz also takes abuse well, with hardly any rattles creeping in. Even the Palio is very hardy, the high profile tires playing their part here. As for GC, if you are careful, you will not scrape even on the worst highways, of course you cant run around with gay abandon in a sedan. That said the modern heavy sedans with thicker panels are more robust than thin sheet cars like Santro/Esteem/Wagon R etc., when it comes to rattles which creep in due to rough use.
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Shan2nu Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hubli - Karnata Posts: 5,533 Thanked: 125 Times View My Garage	Except GC and traction probs, cars can pretty much handle the worst of roads. Cars are pretty competent that way. I've take my Vtec on really bad roads and it had no issues getting through it. Shan2nu
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dadu Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 3,803 Thanked: 462 Times View My Garage	Most vehicles are nowadays very robust unless a problem is already present and you venture out with it. I have driven vehicles with roads/no roads, in mud, gravel, in villages and across small streams of water. The only precaution is to not to test your vehicle no matter SUV or sedans with water, unless you know that the depth is well below. One way to check if you face similar situation is to walk through the water first (to check the depth) and even never try to pass small streams during rainy season with gushing water flow (the pressure is too much and the soil loose).
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31st May 2007, 17:49	#5
zenx Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,161 Thanked: 158 Times View My Garage	Lesser roads in Munnar, lotsa car-width stretches and impossible 3 point turns in Coorg, Bannerghata road for 3 years in its worst phase - the ol' 1.3 has seen it all!!! Cars are plenty tough!
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abhilashvk BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Bangalore/Calic Posts: 367 Thanked: 32 Times View My Garage	Baleno with bigger tyres also can take bad roads pretty well !
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.anshuman Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Good-Gaon Posts: 7,763 Thanked: 11,064 Times View My Garage	Ive been torturing my accent for years now,no rattles no issues except for GC at some very high speed breakers.Sedans have better dynamic ability which translates into more comfortable drive at speeds whereas with SUV's we need to be more careful because of high COG and body roll but it all depends on how broken are the roads.
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1st June 2007, 10:14	#8
abhaybakshi BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 186 Thanked: 85 Times	In the past my Esteem (type II) had seen really rough roads in Karnataka (Badami) without any rattles or tyre punctures. Actually they were not roads but paths with some patches of tar for a change..... I am almost sure that my Swift can not take this road again without rattles set in afterwards..Swift is just not a car for bad roads. I find Maruti Gypsy to be the super silent car on bad roads
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4th June 2007, 15:56	#11
lohithrao Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Kudla/Mangaluru Posts: 3,204 Thanked: 225 Times View My Garage	Thanks guys for the responses. Agree cars are tuff, and i think the only issue is the ground clearence. but have noticed that the suvs like "Safari" "Scorpio" "Innova" dont have that great ground clearence.
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4th June 2007, 16:04	#12
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,717 Thanked: 22,825 Times View My Garage	Nope, they are tough, but SUVs are tougher. You hit a deep crater at 60kmph on a SUV, you will get jarred, but in a sedan you may brake a strut. So if you take your sedan to a non existant road you have to be very careful, and you cannot drive with the same carelessness which can be forgiven in a SUV. But with careful driving, and absence of bottom scraping ruts or slush, on a very bad road your sedan will do fine. With a SUV you will be able to go faster without harming your vehicle.
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