Automatic Engine Decarbonisation

bill1182 · 8th June 2007, 12:33

Mod Note : Please continue the discussion in our Engine Decarbonisation Article. Thanks

Hey guys,

Today when I went to Maturi authorised service center in Mumbai for First service of my Swift Vxi. The service centrey guy told me about a device that can be fitted near the injectors which will not allow any carbon deposits in the engine. He also told me that I will not have to go for any decarb which is ideally recommended after 20K km.

Does anybody have idea about this device? The price quoted by him was 2100.

Hellcat · 8th June 2007, 14:20

I have my doubts this Automatic Engine Decarb will really be effective. It might reduce it to a certain extent.

cheers
Hellcat

ported_head · 8th June 2007, 14:24

What is it called? Fuel Analyser? Magnetic Fuel Saver? Magnetic Fuel Cleaner? Ask him how it works. It's usually hogwash. Like the magnetic device they clip to the fuel line to attract impurities and increase mileage or some magic or something of the sort. I recommend stay away. They maybe Maruti authorised service centres, but they are no saints. The same guy will decarb your engine at 20k without asking you, and it will show up in the bill.

arunforu1 · 8th June 2007, 14:32

hey dont go for gimmicks played by sales agents sitting at authorised centers.

I dont know the principle of any instrument so far which can clean up carbon deposit just by clip-on on a running car.

Dear only fuel additives & engine oil additives helps upto an extent to do the detergent job.as they circulates through moving parts.

otherwise it has to be done manually or by using some engine flush solvent.

Dont go for it, or ask the principle on which it works.

Gurkha · 8th June 2007, 15:40

Don't fall for it, all snake oil, the only way to decarb barring aside removing the head is with stuff like Gumont Regane or carbon cleaning machine and an Italian tune up, actually do the Italian tune up once and month and you won't have carbon, explanation of Italian Tune up at Call Rusty @ (800) 741-5252 for more Mercedes parts at better prices - Mercedes Benz OE and OEM parts

mithun · 10th June 2007, 08:17

There is an Automatic De-Carb machine on all Bajaj dealership. I've done a De-Carb on my Pulsar last month. The bike is not so smooth after the De-Carb. Wondering what they have done ???

shuvc · 10th June 2007, 09:44

My car is almost due for the 20K service. They told me that decarb would be done. It would cost around 1500/-. Is it really necessary ? What are the after effects ?

Do other manufacturers also have decarb on their normal service schedule ?

Gurkha · 10th June 2007, 09:55

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Originally Posted by shuvc

My car is almost due for the 20K service. They told me that decarb would be done. It would cost around 1500/-. Is it really necessary ? What are the after effects ?

Do other manufacturers also have decarb on their normal service schedule ?

Go for it, you will benefit from a smoother long lasting engine as well as better fuel economy, what happens is our cars do lots of short start stop and go city duty which leads to carbon accumulating, in case you do lots of highway driving, carbon cleaning will never be necessary.

cypher · 31st August 2007, 11:08

Bumping up an old thread.

Can someone please explain what exactly does the A.S.S do when they decarb the engine at 20K intervals.

Do they run the engine with a special additive in the fuel?
Is there any way of verifying that they have actually done the decarbonization?

Is decarb recommended if the vehicle has not been used for an extended period, say 6 months and over?

Thanks in advance.

gd1418 · 31st August 2007, 11:18

Total Bu..S..T. It doesn't work. As the guy as to how a device fitted externally will prevent production of carbon that is a result of internal combustion?

Quote:

Originally Posted by bill1182

Hey guys,

Today when I went to Maturi authorised service center in Mumbai for First service of my Swift Vxi. The service centrey guy told me about a device that can be fitted near the injectors which will not allow any carbon deposits in the engine. He also told me that I will not have to go for any decarb which is ideally recommended after 20K km.

Does anybody have idea about this device? The price quoted by him was 2100.

bill1182 · 1st September 2007, 21:10

My earlier M800 was decarbed at 30K. Could not make any sifnificant difference. They charged me 1100 for that.

filcord · 2nd September 2007, 20:56

Had my Baleno de-carbed at 20k last week. I feel like I 've been ripped off. No discernible difference in the running, if at all, the engine is not pulling as well as before.

msharma_79 · 3rd September 2007, 10:59

Flushing of the automatic transmission system also is often recommended by service centers as a routine maintenance item. But most manufacturers say it's not needed until at least 70000 kms if then check the owner's manual for when it should be done.

lordofgondor · 3rd September 2007, 11:52

Hey buddy, it's just a marketing gimmick. I had the misfortune of being ripped off by the service adviser who somehow pestered me long enough to attach this device, which is just coupla magnets actually. They cannot provide any benefit in preventing carbon build up.

I guess it's better to avoid this so called decarb kit and go for regular decarb at 20K Kms and provide timely maintenance (oil/air-oil-fuel filter changes) to the car.

Though I have one query for the gurus, which is: I have seen many cars which have registered high mileage without any decarb being done and are still running fine. So is decarb really required for today's cars?

panky12345 · 3rd September 2007, 12:32

this device is now available @ 1700; a brand called "XANG XING" with absolutely NO sales. I saw in Indicare, Delhi. They dont have any manufacturers' endorsements, rather are kept on consignment basis in dealerships with over 60% net margins!

8th June 2007, 12:33	#1
bill1182 BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 165 Thanked: 312 Times	Automatic Engine Decarbonisation Mod Note : Please continue the discussion in our Engine Decarbonisation Article. Thanks Hey guys, Today when I went to Maturi authorised service center in Mumbai for First service of my Swift Vxi. The service centrey guy told me about a device that can be fitted near the injectors which will not allow any carbon deposits in the engine. He also told me that I will not have to go for any decarb which is ideally recommended after 20K km. Does anybody have idea about this device? The price quoted by him was 2100. Last edited by GTO : 13th March 2013 at 12:00. Reason: Adding link to our decarb article
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8th June 2007, 14:20	#2
Hellcat BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 222 Thanked: 5 Times View My Garage	I have my doubts this Automatic Engine Decarb will really be effective. It might reduce it to a certain extent. cheers Hellcat
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8th June 2007, 14:24	#3
ported_head Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 2,387 Thanked: 20 Times	What is it called? Fuel Analyser? Magnetic Fuel Saver? Magnetic Fuel Cleaner? Ask him how it works. It's usually hogwash. Like the magnetic device they clip to the fuel line to attract impurities and increase mileage or some magic or something of the sort. I recommend stay away. They maybe Maruti authorised service centres, but they are no saints. The same guy will decarb your engine at 20k without asking you, and it will show up in the bill.
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8th June 2007, 14:32	#4
arunforu1 BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 254 Thanked: 7 Times	hey dont go for gimmicks played by sales agents sitting at authorised centers. I dont know the principle of any instrument so far which can clean up carbon deposit just by clip-on on a running car. Dear only fuel additives & engine oil additives helps upto an extent to do the detergent job.as they circulates through moving parts. otherwise it has to be done manually or by using some engine flush solvent. Dont go for it, or ask the principle on which it works.
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8th June 2007, 15:40	#5
Gurkha BANNED Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kalyani, West Bengal Posts: 444 Thanked: 10 Times	Don't fall for it, all snake oil, the only way to decarb barring aside removing the head is with stuff like Gumont Regane or carbon cleaning machine and an Italian tune up, actually do the Italian tune up once and month and you won't have carbon, explanation of Italian Tune up at Call Rusty @ (800) 741-5252 for more Mercedes parts at better prices - Mercedes Benz OE and OEM parts
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10th June 2007, 08:17	#6
mithun BANNED Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Cochin Posts: 2,195 Thanked: 268 Times	There is an Automatic De-Carb machine on all Bajaj dealership. I've done a De-Carb on my Pulsar last month. The bike is not so smooth after the De-Carb. Wondering what they have done ???
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10th June 2007, 09:44	#7
shuvc Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Kolkata Posts: 2,913 Thanked: 352 Times View My Garage	My car is almost due for the 20K service. They told me that decarb would be done. It would cost around 1500/-. Is it really necessary ? What are the after effects ? Do other manufacturers also have decarb on their normal service schedule ?
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31st August 2007, 11:08	#9
cypher BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 153 Thanked: 4 Times	Bumping up an old thread. Can someone please explain what exactly does the A.S.S do when they decarb the engine at 20K intervals. Do they run the engine with a special additive in the fuel? Is there any way of verifying that they have actually done the decarbonization? Is decarb recommended if the vehicle has not been used for an extended period, say 6 months and over? Thanks in advance. Last edited by cypher : 31st August 2007 at 11:18. Reason: Corrected a typo
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1st September 2007, 21:10	#11
bill1182 BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 165 Thanked: 312 Times	My earlier M800 was decarbed at 30K. Could not make any sifnificant difference. They charged me 1100 for that.
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2nd September 2007, 20:56	#12
filcord BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: goa Posts: 996 Thanked: 67 Times	Had my Baleno de-carbed at 20k last week. I feel like I 've been ripped off. No discernible difference in the running, if at all, the engine is not pulling as well as before.
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3rd September 2007, 10:59	#13
msharma_79 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 262 Thanked: 23 Times View My Garage	Flushing of the automatic transmission system also is often recommended by service centers as a routine maintenance item. But most manufacturers say it's not needed until at least 70000 kms if then check the owner's manual for when it should be done.
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3rd September 2007, 11:52	#14
lordofgondor BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: UP 16 Posts: 936 Thanked: 159 Times	Hey buddy, it's just a marketing gimmick. I had the misfortune of being ripped off by the service adviser who somehow pestered me long enough to attach this device, which is just coupla magnets actually. They cannot provide any benefit in preventing carbon build up. I guess it's better to avoid this so called decarb kit and go for regular decarb at 20K Kms and provide timely maintenance (oil/air-oil-fuel filter changes) to the car. Though I have one query for the gurus, which is: I have seen many cars which have registered high mileage without any decarb being done and are still running fine. So is decarb really required for today's cars?
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3rd September 2007, 12:32	#15
panky12345 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 2,697 Thanked: 171 Times	this device is now available @ 1700; a brand called "XANG XING" with absolutely NO sales. I saw in Indicare, Delhi. They dont have any manufacturers' endorsements, rather are kept on consignment basis in dealerships with over 60% net margins!
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