Cocktails for Swift VDI

iridium · 26th October 2007, 21:10

I've used Castrol Edge in my esteem (5W-40).

This time I am trying it in my Swift diesel. Engine oil change at 5k kms.
What we get here in Bangalore (bought at Metro Bangalore. MRP is Rs. 2950 for 5 litres. Metro gives it at Rs. 2235) is the one manufactured in South Africa.
Checked out their website and the details are given below.
http://www.castroledge.co.za/PDF/var..._edge_5w40.pdf

I also found that Castrol Edge is available specifically for turbo diesel engines
Castrol Edge Turbo Diesel 0w-30 1L Oil - Tesco.Direct
However this is not available in India.

Will let you all know the performance after I change it tomorrow.

Searched for Castrol GTX (for turbo charged engines). Am unable to find this.
Had seen this once in Metro. But am unable to find this in town.
Tried a lot of shops in JC Road Bangalore also.

Regards
Ravi.

iridium · 26th October 2007, 21:16

Will be changing the engine oil for my Swift VDI tomorrow (Castrol Edge) tomorrow.

Will also be adding STP for diesel engine oils additive (MRP - Rs. 295. Paid Rs. 250). One can is good enough for 6 litres of oil. Since Swift uses about 3 litres, can use this for two oil changes.

Wynns additive for transmission. This costs Rs. 275 for 125 ml. It says that this also stops oil leaks. Plan to add this to the gear box.

STP has a diesel additive that claims to clean the diesel injectors. MRP - Rs. 180. Paid Rs. 160.

Will let you all know the performance after all this.

Regards
Ravi.

iridium · 27th October 2007, 16:19

Got Castrol Edge added to my Swift VDI today morning.
After doing this, came home and checked out the following site:
Car Bibles : The Engine Oil Bible

Found that Castrol Edge (sold in Bangalore) meets API SL/CF
SL - for petrol engines; is one of the latest standards
CF - for diesel engines though is not one of the latest standards, the above link states the following
"'CF' is the most popular and is well adequate for passenger vehicle applications"

So I guess this should be okay. Haven't driven the car yet (was delivered to my home by Mandovi).

Will update the results later.

Regards
Ravi.

iridium · 27th October 2007, 16:22

Got Wynn's additive for transmission in the gearbox.
The filling of transmission oil in Swift needs to be done from below and can be done only by a mechanic.

Added the STP diesel engine oil additive also.

The mechanic told me that I should try the STP diesel additive after about 20k kms.

The mechanic refused to open the airfilter. Had this opened and there was a lot of dust there (after the MadhyaPradesh trip). The filter element itself is very thin and he refused to blow air on it saying that it would tear. We tapped it lightly and then fitted the same back.

Haven't driven the car after all these changes since it was delivered home by Mandovi.

Will update the results later.

Regards
Ravi.

Rudra Sen · 27th October 2007, 17:32

Mods note: Thread merged.

nitrous · 27th October 2007, 17:38

5W40 is ok for Bangalore condition.
But, I highly doubt that the API-CF is the minimum standard for the 1.3 DDiS.
IIRC, the manual stated that it needed atleast CG or CH.

iridium · 27th October 2007, 21:11

The manual states that the recommended is API-CG4
BTW this was introduced back in 1995.

This is now superceded by API-CH and API-CI.

Regards
Ravi.

Milind · 3rd November 2007, 10:09

Guys ... Maruti Sepcifies API CG or Above. I tried MoBil Delvac Super 1300 API CJ+ - The latest in Diesel Engine Oil Specification. Called up Marketing head of Mobil - who gave a contact of dealer at Sewree.... who hand-delivered the 5 Litre oil @ 750 MRP 965. The Service Engineers at Seva Maruti goofed up and put in 3.5 L instead of 3.0 L. Had to take the car to local Garage to remove the excess engine oil.

Swift DDiS has Exhaust Gas Recirculation.... which lead higher running temperatures and more soot. Engine Oil which effectively handle these are API CI and above. Running the DDiS on synthetic (designed for Petrol engines) may harm the engine after few thousand km runin.

iridium · 6th November 2007, 12:51

Where in Bangalore can I get Mobil Delvac Super 1300 which is API CJ+ approved ?.

iridium · 6th November 2007, 13:21

Found that Mobil Delvac 1 (5W 40) is fully synthetic and can be used for diesel engines with Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) technology.

Link is given below:
Mobil Delvac 1 5W-40

Jaggu · 6th May 2009, 14:10

Bumping up the old thread need info to procure either of the below in Bangalore.

Mobil Delvac MX 15W-40

OR

Mobil Delvac 1 ESP 5W-40

Jaggu · 6th May 2009, 23:15

Copying from my ownership thread, info will be useful for Mobil Delvac and Mobil 1 fans.

Quote:

Got the oil http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lub..._mx_15w-40.pdf from Spares & General Agencies in JC road, at first signal turn right small road on to the right. phone 22212513. Old man is sharp so be prepared for some talk and hard bargaining.

Also General Auto Spares said they can get it, but wanted me to come tomorrow. This is the first place i went, again in JC road, at first signal turn right small road on to the left. phone 22241818, 22241919, 22130257. He has ready stock of Mobil 1 though, so fans can contact this mallu shop

Picked up 5 liter can and paid 950 bucks, could have bargained but i was in a hurry and he was also closing and didnt want to dread another trip to JC Road for oil.

Mobil Delvac super is also ok for swift D's DDIS engine.

Jaggu · 7th May 2009, 23:15

Official distributor in Bangalore for Mobil:

M/S Speed Away Ltd
Near JC Road,Bangalore.
Contact Person:Mr K.Prasad ,Branch Manager
41496502.

26th October 2007, 21:10	#1
iridium BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 101 Thanked: 10 Times	Cocktails for Swift VDI I've used Castrol Edge in my esteem (5W-40). This time I am trying it in my Swift diesel. Engine oil change at 5k kms. What we get here in Bangalore (bought at Metro Bangalore. MRP is Rs. 2950 for 5 litres. Metro gives it at Rs. 2235) is the one manufactured in South Africa. Checked out their website and the details are given below. http://www.castroledge.co.za/PDF/var..._edge_5w40.pdf I also found that Castrol Edge is available specifically for turbo diesel engines Castrol Edge Turbo Diesel 0w-30 1L Oil - Tesco.Direct However this is not available in India. Will let you all know the performance after I change it tomorrow. Searched for Castrol GTX (for turbo charged engines). Am unable to find this. Had seen this once in Metro. But am unable to find this in town. Tried a lot of shops in JC Road Bangalore also. Regards Ravi. Last edited by iridium : 26th October 2007 at 21:24.
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26th October 2007, 21:16	#2
iridium BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 101 Thanked: 10 Times	Will be changing the engine oil for my Swift VDI tomorrow (Castrol Edge) tomorrow. Will also be adding STP for diesel engine oils additive (MRP - Rs. 295. Paid Rs. 250). One can is good enough for 6 litres of oil. Since Swift uses about 3 litres, can use this for two oil changes. Wynns additive for transmission. This costs Rs. 275 for 125 ml. It says that this also stops oil leaks. Plan to add this to the gear box. STP has a diesel additive that claims to clean the diesel injectors. MRP - Rs. 180. Paid Rs. 160. Will let you all know the performance after all this. Regards Ravi. Last edited by Rudra Sen : 27th October 2007 at 17:31.
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27th October 2007, 16:19	#3
iridium BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 101 Thanked: 10 Times	Got Castrol Edge added to my Swift VDI today morning. After doing this, came home and checked out the following site: Car Bibles : The Engine Oil Bible Found that Castrol Edge (sold in Bangalore) meets API SL/CF SL - for petrol engines; is one of the latest standards CF - for diesel engines though is not one of the latest standards, the above link states the following "'CF' is the most popular and is well adequate for passenger vehicle applications" So I guess this should be okay. Haven't driven the car yet (was delivered to my home by Mandovi). Will update the results later. Regards Ravi.
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27th October 2007, 16:22	#4
iridium BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 101 Thanked: 10 Times	Got Wynn's additive for transmission in the gearbox. The filling of transmission oil in Swift needs to be done from below and can be done only by a mechanic. Added the STP diesel engine oil additive also. The mechanic told me that I should try the STP diesel additive after about 20k kms. The mechanic refused to open the airfilter. Had this opened and there was a lot of dust there (after the MadhyaPradesh trip). The filter element itself is very thin and he refused to blow air on it saying that it would tear. We tapped it lightly and then fitted the same back. Haven't driven the car after all these changes since it was delivered home by Mandovi. Will update the results later. Regards Ravi.
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27th October 2007, 17:32	#5
Rudra Sen Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 11,590 Thanked: 6,532 Times View My Garage	Mods note: Thread merged.
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27th October 2007, 17:38	#6
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	5W40 is ok for Bangalore condition. But, I highly doubt that the API-CF is the minimum standard for the 1.3 DDiS. IIRC, the manual stated that it needed atleast CG or CH.
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27th October 2007, 21:11	#7
iridium BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 101 Thanked: 10 Times	The manual states that the recommended is API-CG4 BTW this was introduced back in 1995. This is now superceded by API-CH and API-CI. Regards Ravi.
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3rd November 2007, 10:09	#8
Milind BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: MH-12 Posts: 50 Thanked: 0 Times	Guys ... Maruti Sepcifies API CG or Above. I tried MoBil Delvac Super 1300 API CJ+ - The latest in Diesel Engine Oil Specification. Called up Marketing head of Mobil - who gave a contact of dealer at Sewree.... who hand-delivered the 5 Litre oil @ 750 MRP 965. The Service Engineers at Seva Maruti goofed up and put in 3.5 L instead of 3.0 L. Had to take the car to local Garage to remove the excess engine oil. Swift DDiS has Exhaust Gas Recirculation.... which lead higher running temperatures and more soot. Engine Oil which effectively handle these are API CI and above. Running the DDiS on synthetic (designed for Petrol engines) may harm the engine after few thousand km runin.
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6th November 2007, 12:51	#9
iridium BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 101 Thanked: 10 Times	Where in Bangalore can I get Mobil Delvac Super 1300 which is API CJ+ approved ?.
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6th November 2007, 13:21	#10
iridium BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 101 Thanked: 10 Times	Found that Mobil Delvac 1 (5W 40) is fully synthetic and can be used for diesel engines with Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) technology. Link is given below: Mobil Delvac 1 5W-40
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6th May 2009, 14:10	#11
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,215 Thanked: 15,907 Times	Bumping up the old thread need info to procure either of the below in Bangalore. Mobil Delvac MX 15W-40 OR Mobil Delvac 1 ESP 5W-40
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7th May 2009, 23:15	#13
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,215 Thanked: 15,907 Times	Official distributor in Bangalore for Mobil: M/S Speed Away Ltd Near JC Road,Bangalore. Contact Person:Mr K.Prasad ,Branch Manager 41496502.
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