Free Flow:Does it really cause noise pollution?

speedsatya · 16th January 2005, 22:21

guys,
nowadays we are reading abt a lot of us getting caught for our loud exhausts.
wat is the real reason behind all this.
is it due to noise pollution laws or is it because of modifying with the engine.
if a free flow exhaust causes noise pollution then what do u say abt the buses,trucks and otehr LCV's which make more sound.
wat abt the autorickshaws.
and wat abt the sports cars being launched now.like the porsche.
will these cars also be fined then.

or is it taht the cops are simply fooling around with us.
mabbe there is a limit for the sound of the exhaust .and unless its a straight pipe most of the free flows are not as loud as the trucks ,buses or the sports cars.

so wat do u think ??????????

satya

iceman91 · 16th January 2005, 22:53

see for the govt. the issue of noise pollution or any other penalty comes in due to the laws by the RTO. this clearly states that ANY modification done to the car in respect to:
1. weight of the car
2. tires of the car
3. engine of the car
4. suspension of hte car
5. exhaust of the car
6. body of the car
is illegal without prior permission and approval in writing by the authorities.

this is pretty stupid since according to this we cannot even put mags and tires...but it is the law. and as usual the cops need to make a quick buck. so....

z klasse · 16th January 2005, 23:10

Best thing to argue with the cop. If he says ur exhaust is loud ask him for a decibel meter. If he aint have one he cant do jack. I think the permissible limit is 85 or something. Why do we worry.. If cops stop.. Let him come.. Inject nos, and ur away before he can note the number lol...

Z Klasse

X-Machine · 17th January 2005, 22:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by z klasse

Best thing to argue with the cop. If he says ur exhaust is loud ask him for a decibel meter. If he aint have one he cant do jack. I think the permissible limit is 85 or something. Why do we worry.. If cops stop.. Let him come.. Inject nos, and ur away before he can note the number lol...

Z Klasse

Dude Z,they will say the decibel meter is at the police station.Chalo,dikhata hoon.

X

speedsatya · 17th January 2005, 23:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by X-Machine

Dude Z,they will say the decibel meter is at the police station.Chalo,dikhata hoon.

X

hehe

and kaan ke neeche dega and then check that in dB.saheb pannas rupye gyava bolo and bhaago

lamborghini · 19th January 2005, 16:01

getting better tires is illegal without writing to the authorities
like can anyone confirm
and how do u ghet permission for all of this stuff???

iceman91 · 19th January 2005, 22:39

well as said in the RTO book thats what the rules mean....u cannot change any part of the car which changes its unladen weight, performance or looks without their permission...god only knows what they had in mind when they framed this

Shan2nu · 19th January 2005, 22:48

Like Z said, if the car isn't checked using a decible meter, the cop can't possibly catch you.

We'l have to find out what the max allowed engine note (in decibels) is.

Shan2nu

joel · 19th January 2005, 23:16

its just the sound................i dont think there will be any excess pollution.

normally_crazy · 19th January 2005, 23:28

nothing like this has happened to me - a couple of times the cops stopped me for tinted glasses and noticed my sound and then took out a small book an showed me some crappy rle abt the exhaust thingy !!

when i asked for a closer look at the rule and he book he became possesive !!!

that concludes - the whole thing is a money making racket !!

the old taxis make far more louder noise than my free flow !!

cheers

Shan2nu · 20th January 2005, 11:56

And what about those stock Premier Padminis' LOL. They make the biggest noise and have the slowest acceleration, not to forget the pollution.

Shan2nu

revtech · 20th January 2005, 12:33

hahahhaha u said it shan2nu

hey nc...do u hav the normal tint or the extra dark vip tint??

z klasse · 20th January 2005, 14:43

Just a thought. A baby crying on top of his/her voice is 100 decibel if no one knew. Car limit is 85 decibel. now imagine if u have a baby crying in a free flow car. .. What will the cop do? Fine the car or the baby?

anoops · 20th January 2005, 14:51

hey speedsatya,
ive been meaning to ask you this, what are you trying to say with you sign off line (every loud exhaust is not a free flow, but mine is)...and your muffler is a "freeflow" one, not your whole exhaust system...anyway was just trying to figure it out, what are the other types of "loud exhaust" anyway??

vance0712 · 20th January 2005, 15:23

satya .......this cop thingy happened to me tooo

..... wonder
what the guy was thinkin ......

he ended up screaming at me

coz i fried his brains to lower the fine ....did end up paying 100/- but
guess he was more louder than the car.....

16th January 2005, 22:21	#1
speedsatya Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: bangalore/manga Posts: 3,169 Thanked: 738 Times View My Garage	Free Flow:Does it really cause noise pollution? guys, nowadays we are reading abt a lot of us getting caught for our loud exhausts. wat is the real reason behind all this. is it due to noise pollution laws or is it because of modifying with the engine. if a free flow exhaust causes noise pollution then what do u say abt the buses,trucks and otehr LCV's which make more sound. wat abt the autorickshaws. and wat abt the sports cars being launched now.like the porsche. will these cars also be fined then. or is it taht the cops are simply fooling around with us. mabbe there is a limit for the sound of the exhaust .and unless its a straight pipe most of the free flows are not as loud as the trucks ,buses or the sports cars. so wat do u think ?????????? satya
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16th January 2005, 22:53	#2
iceman91 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: melbourne/banga Posts: 1,961 Thanked: 34 Times View My Garage	see for the govt. the issue of noise pollution or any other penalty comes in due to the laws by the RTO. this clearly states that ANY modification done to the car in respect to: 1. weight of the car 2. tires of the car 3. engine of the car 4. suspension of hte car 5. exhaust of the car 6. body of the car is illegal without prior permission and approval in writing by the authorities. this is pretty stupid since according to this we cannot even put mags and tires...but it is the law. and as usual the cops need to make a quick buck. so....
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16th January 2005, 23:10	#3
z klasse BHPian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 351 Thanked: 28 Times View My Garage	Best thing to argue with the cop. If he says ur exhaust is loud ask him for a decibel meter. If he aint have one he cant do jack. I think the permissible limit is 85 or something. Why do we worry.. If cops stop.. Let him come.. Inject nos, and ur away before he can note the number lol... Z Klasse
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19th January 2005, 16:01	#6
lamborghini Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 6,113 Thanked: 5,760 Times View My Garage	getting better tires is illegal without writing to the authorities like can anyone confirm and how do u ghet permission for all of this stuff???
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19th January 2005, 22:39	#7
iceman91 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: melbourne/banga Posts: 1,961 Thanked: 34 Times View My Garage	well as said in the RTO book thats what the rules mean....u cannot change any part of the car which changes its unladen weight, performance or looks without their permission...god only knows what they had in mind when they framed this
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19th January 2005, 22:48	#8
Shan2nu Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hubli - Karnata Posts: 5,533 Thanked: 125 Times View My Garage	Like Z said, if the car isn't checked using a decible meter, the cop can't possibly catch you. We'l have to find out what the max allowed engine note (in decibels) is. Shan2nu
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19th January 2005, 23:16	#9
joel Newbie Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: bangalore Posts: 14 Thanked: 0 Times	its just the sound................i dont think there will be any excess pollution.
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19th January 2005, 23:28	#10
normally_crazy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,369 Thanked: 528 Times View My Garage	nothing like this has happened to me - a couple of times the cops stopped me for tinted glasses and noticed my sound and then took out a small book an showed me some crappy rle abt the exhaust thingy !! when i asked for a closer look at the rule and he book he became possesive !!! that concludes - the whole thing is a money making racket !! the old taxis make far more louder noise than my free flow !! cheers
	() Thanks

20th January 2005, 11:56	#11
Shan2nu Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hubli - Karnata Posts: 5,533 Thanked: 125 Times View My Garage	And what about those stock Premier Padminis' LOL. They make the biggest noise and have the slowest acceleration, not to forget the pollution. Shan2nu
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20th January 2005, 12:33	#12
revtech Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 1,992 Thanked: 38 Times View My Garage	hahahhaha u said it shan2nu hey nc...do u hav the normal tint or the extra dark vip tint??
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20th January 2005, 14:43	#13
z klasse BHPian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 351 Thanked: 28 Times View My Garage	Just a thought. A baby crying on top of his/her voice is 100 decibel if no one knew. Car limit is 85 decibel. now imagine if u have a baby crying in a free flow car. .. What will the cop do? Fine the car or the baby?
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20th January 2005, 14:51	#14
anoops BHPian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: bangalore Posts: 183 Thanked: 3 Times	hey speedsatya, ive been meaning to ask you this, what are you trying to say with you sign off line (every loud exhaust is not a free flow, but mine is)...and your muffler is a "freeflow" one, not your whole exhaust system...anyway was just trying to figure it out, what are the other types of "loud exhaust" anyway??
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20th January 2005, 15:23	#15
vance0712 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: mumbai Posts: 142 Thanked: Once	satya .......this cop thingy happened to me tooo ..... wonder what the guy was thinkin ...... he ended up screaming at me coz i fried his brains to lower the fine ....did end up paying 100/- but guess he was more louder than the car.....
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