Fiesta 1.6S RPM Cutoff

autoenthusiast · 5th January 2009, 15:47

Guys,

Facing a strange problem.

My 4500km run Fiesta seems to run out of steam at 5500rpm. The car pulls cleanly right upto 5500 rpm and then I can feel the engine getting cutoff (electronically limited). This only happens when the car is moving and accellerating through each of the gears. Surprising thing is that if I keep the car stationary and gun the accellarator it cleanly swoops to 6500 RPM.

I was under the impression that the Fiesta 1.6 was supposed to have a max RPM of 6500.

Can other 1.6 owners comment on the experience in their vehicle ? Thanks.

ascertain · 5th January 2009, 16:40

I had the same problem with my sister-in -laws Matiz. The car would kind of go into a choking sputter towards the latter part of individual gear accelerations, but would hold steady if the accelerator was pressed down on straight stretches, really had me thinking about all aspects from the injection till the hydraulics / clutch . Took it to a service station - and found there was a rubber vacuum hose leak. Once that was fixed, they also noticed a worn out clutch plate (since my sis-in-law has her foot glued to the clutch in-city

)

A Vacuum leak or sensor failure is more likely to be the problem,check all the rubber vacuum hoses for leaks and check electrical connections.

Anyway - get you car checked up at the ford showroom -

ascertain · 5th January 2009, 16:55

I currently own a ford fiesta Duratorq, and keep it in prime, with regular servicing, no problem with the revs.

Most owners experience 2 kind of problems

Missing & Fuel Hunting-

Plugs foul up if the fuel used is of poor quality - the heads also eventually burn out with time, leading to sluggishness.Leads also get old and get vehicular Alzheimer's

Fuel Filters get clogged, therefore not enough fuel gets through. Injectors also are affected which results in lesser available combustible fuel.

Poor quality fuel (read spurious) may have too great a % of ethanol, also resulting in not enough juice being available under the pedal. Some have minuscule water- but water in fuel will foul your system thoroughly and immediately - doesn't induce sluggishness.

Your fuel pump might be beginning to fail, which, as in all the other cases, results in not enough fuel being injected.

if it's a case of missing, it will be there ALL THE TIME - because timing is timing, doesn't matter what position the throttle is in.

Its also a good idea to check that the temperature transmitter is not faulty and sending wrong signal to E C U and then the mixture is too rich.

fidaford · 5th January 2009, 18:24

Strange problem. I have never experienced with my 1.6.
My car easily pulls till the 6800 rpm, that too easliy. I dont know how your 1.6 has this problem.
But if I recollect the New upgraded Fiesta which you own has a ECU remap to the 1.4's setting so that it can give more mileage.
I do think this must be because of the ECU change in setting.

abhi1309 · 5th January 2009, 19:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by fidaford

Strange problem. I have never experienced with my 1.6.
My car easily pulls till the 6800 rpm, that too easliy. I dont know how your 1.6 has this problem.
But if I recollect the New upgraded Fiesta which you own has a ECU remap to the 1.4's setting so that it can give more mileage.
I do think this must be because of the ECU change in setting.

Hey what ECU remap to 1.4's setting

mine too goes till 6000rpm without a seconds delay.

vnabhi · 5th January 2009, 21:06

I think I should give mine a try tomorrow. I've never gone beyond 4500 to 5000 k so far.

manjith_pm · 5th January 2009, 21:19

I own a new Fiesta 1.6.I have similar problem.My car gives excellent pick-up in the second gear but is sluggish in third gear.I'm just hoping it turns better with more running.It has only run about 1700kms and the mileage i'm gettin is around 8.5.What can i do to get a better rev and mileage.

narayan · 5th January 2009, 21:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by manjith_pm

What can i do to get a better rev and mileage.

- im sure everyone of us wants that - but I am not sure u can get both of that together

autoenthusiast · 1st March 2009, 10:05

Well the strange issue still exists. I got to take it to the Pune dealer now and see if they can sort it out. I'm sure it wasn't there earlier. I was in Goa for quite some time and the mech there didn't know much. Infact when he TD'ed my vehicle and I told him about the RPM cutting off at 5500 he said it's normal. Later he mentioned that they don't usually look at so much detail in RPM :-(
Gonna take it to the Pune dealer and ask him for a feedback.

5th January 2009, 15:47	#1
autoenthusiast BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Goa Posts: 417 Thanked: 5 Times	Fiesta 1.6S RPM Cutoff Guys, Facing a strange problem. My 4500km run Fiesta seems to run out of steam at 5500rpm. The car pulls cleanly right upto 5500 rpm and then I can feel the engine getting cutoff (electronically limited). This only happens when the car is moving and accellerating through each of the gears. Surprising thing is that if I keep the car stationary and gun the accellarator it cleanly swoops to 6500 RPM. I was under the impression that the Fiesta 1.6 was supposed to have a max RPM of 6500. Can other 1.6 owners comment on the experience in their vehicle ? Thanks.
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5th January 2009, 16:40	#2
ascertain BHPian Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Cannanore Posts: 154 Thanked: 42 Times	The catch I had the same problem with my sister-in -laws Matiz. The car would kind of go into a choking sputter towards the latter part of individual gear accelerations, but would hold steady if the accelerator was pressed down on straight stretches, really had me thinking about all aspects from the injection till the hydraulics / clutch . Took it to a service station - and found there was a rubber vacuum hose leak. Once that was fixed, they also noticed a worn out clutch plate (since my sis-in-law has her foot glued to the clutch in-city ) A Vacuum leak or sensor failure is more likely to be the problem,check all the rubber vacuum hoses for leaks and check electrical connections. Anyway - get you car checked up at the ford showroom -
	() Thanks

5th January 2009, 16:55	#3
ascertain BHPian Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Cannanore Posts: 154 Thanked: 42 Times	fuel hunting I currently own a ford fiesta Duratorq, and keep it in prime, with regular servicing, no problem with the revs. Most owners experience 2 kind of problems Missing & Fuel Hunting- Plugs foul up if the fuel used is of poor quality - the heads also eventually burn out with time, leading to sluggishness.Leads also get old and get vehicular Alzheimer's Fuel Filters get clogged, therefore not enough fuel gets through. Injectors also are affected which results in lesser available combustible fuel. Poor quality fuel (read spurious) may have too great a % of ethanol, also resulting in not enough juice being available under the pedal. Some have minuscule water- but water in fuel will foul your system thoroughly and immediately - doesn't induce sluggishness. Your fuel pump might be beginning to fail, which, as in all the other cases, results in not enough fuel being injected. if it's a case of missing, it will be there ALL THE TIME - because timing is timing, doesn't matter what position the throttle is in. Its also a good idea to check that the temperature transmitter is not faulty and sending wrong signal to E C U and then the mixture is too rich.
	() Thanks

5th January 2009, 18:24	#4
fidaford BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: bombay Posts: 93 Thanked: 6 Times	Strange problem. I have never experienced with my 1.6. My car easily pulls till the 6800 rpm, that too easliy. I dont know how your 1.6 has this problem. But if I recollect the New upgraded Fiesta which you own has a ECU remap to the 1.4's setting so that it can give more mileage. I do think this must be because of the ECU change in setting.
	() Thanks

5th January 2009, 21:06	#6
vnabhi Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: DC -> DC Posts: 5,999 Thanked: 2,429 Times View My Garage	I think I should give mine a try tomorrow. I've never gone beyond 4500 to 5000 k so far.
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5th January 2009, 21:19	#7
manjith_pm BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Chennai Posts: 155 Thanked: 29 Times	I own a new Fiesta 1.6.I have similar problem.My car gives excellent pick-up in the second gear but is sluggish in third gear.I'm just hoping it turns better with more running.It has only run about 1700kms and the mileage i'm gettin is around 8.5.What can i do to get a better rev and mileage.
	() Thanks

1st March 2009, 10:05	#9
autoenthusiast BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Goa Posts: 417 Thanked: 5 Times	Well the strange issue still exists. I got to take it to the Pune dealer now and see if they can sort it out. I'm sure it wasn't there earlier. I was in Goa for quite some time and the mech there didn't know much. Infact when he TD'ed my vehicle and I told him about the RPM cutting off at 5500 he said it's normal. Later he mentioned that they don't usually look at so much detail in RPM :-( Gonna take it to the Pune dealer and ask him for a feedback.
	() Thanks