“Braking” – All about brakes, lets Discuss & Learn!!!

DieselFan · 22nd June 2009, 13:00

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Originally Posted by clevermax

Speaking about braking under normal circumstances, how many drivers actaully downshift and utlize engine braking? I guess very few. Most of the driver brake in 5th gear itself if not with a fully depressed clutch!

This will wear out the tyres, clutch and the brakes at double speed. Also it is risky/unsafe way of braking.

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Originally Posted by clevermax

Many people say that downshifting and 'putting all those load' on the engine is bad for the engine!

This is misconception. As long as you are in the safe RPM band you are fine with loading the engine . It is not good to suddenly reduce the gear to 3 at 80 KMPH but getting down to 3rd gear to 40-45 is better than running the car at 5th gear at 40-45 kmph. It is better to load the engine vis-a-vis lugging the engine at low RPM.

GTO · 22nd June 2009, 16:00

Some must-read threads on braking:

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Eddy · 22nd June 2009, 16:41

My swift is 49,990 kms old. It has been diagnosed with a leaking Master Clutch Cylinder. Replacement cost is about 3k and is not covered under warranty. Any thoughts ?

Posting here since the symptom was leaking brake oil.

DieselFan · 22nd June 2009, 17:19

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Originally Posted by Eddy

My swift is 49,990 kms old. It has been diagnosed with a leaking Master Clutch Cylinder. Replacement cost is about 3k and is not covered under warranty. Any thoughts ?

Posting here since the symptom was leaking brake oil.

Why is master cylinder not covered under warranty. It is not a rubber part or a consumable part (Brake pads, clutch etc.).

pranavt · 22nd June 2009, 20:33

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Originally Posted by DieselFan

This is misconception. As long as you are in the safe RPM band you are fine with loading the engine . It is not good to suddenly reduce the gear to 3 at 80 KMPH but getting down to 3rd gear to 40-45 is better than running the car at 5th gear at 40-45 kmph. It is better to load the engine vis-a-vis lugging the engine at low RPM.

Brake > Clutch > Rev > Downshift > Release clutch pedal. Engine braking is fun!

ImmortalZ · 22nd June 2009, 20:42

Blipping the engine is also great fun. Break, clutch, blip, downshift, declutch. Makes you feel more involved, even if it is completely unnecessary with today's gearboxes with synchros.

I'll be hitting the Honda A.S.S for my brakes this week and I'll keep you guys updated.

pranavt · 22nd June 2009, 21:35

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Originally Posted by ImmortalZ

Blipping the engine is also great fun. Break, clutch, blip, downshift, declutch. Makes you feel more involved, even if it is completely unnecessary with today's gearboxes with synchros.

I'll be hitting the Honda A.S.S for my brakes this week and I'll keep you guys updated.

Might be unnecessary, but I hate the sudden jerk that a car gives, if downshifted to a lower gear's top-end. Like you said. Makes you feel more involved

firestorm · 24th April 2010, 20:09

Oh !!! I was under the impression that cadence braking is something like a sequential braking, which helps the driver to brake effectively in slippery conditions. I came across this impression when I browsed the web, and ended up in certain articles like this.

Cadence braking

Can this be also called Cadence braking ?

22nd June 2009, 16:00	#17
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 71,774 Thanked: 322,321 Times View My Garage	Some must-read threads on braking: 1 2 3 4
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22nd June 2009, 16:41	#18
Eddy Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 9,565 Thanked: 14,546 Times	My swift is 49,990 kms old. It has been diagnosed with a leaking Master Clutch Cylinder. Replacement cost is about 3k and is not covered under warranty. Any thoughts ? Posting here since the symptom was leaking brake oil.
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22nd June 2009, 20:42	#21
ImmortalZ Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 2,195 Thanked: 601 Times View My Garage	Blipping the engine is also great fun. Break, clutch, blip, downshift, declutch. Makes you feel more involved, even if it is completely unnecessary with today's gearboxes with synchros. I'll be hitting the Honda A.S.S for my brakes this week and I'll keep you guys updated.
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24th April 2010, 20:09	#23
firestorm BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Cochin Posts: 43 Thanked: 0 Times View My Garage	Oh !!! I was under the impression that cadence braking is something like a sequential braking, which helps the driver to brake effectively in slippery conditions. I came across this impression when I browsed the web, and ended up in certain articles like this. Cadence braking Can this be also called Cadence braking ?
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