Xing: High rev when pressing the clutch during gear change

raghu · 9th September 2009, 16:32

My car is Santro Xing 2007 model and has clocked 25K kms so far. It is majorly used for city driving alone.

I am facing this strange problem that when ever I press the clutch to change the gears, the engine rev goes up. Is there any good explanation for this? I have tried the following:

-> Petrol: I suspected the petrol and hence tried petrol from different bunks. The problem still persists. I now need to try the Speed version and see if it makes any difference.
-> Took the car to the service station and he said he will fix it. But it is partially fixed. During the day, I have no issues (at least not much). But the moment the headlights are on, I get the same problem.

udaydesai · 9th September 2009, 17:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by raghu

My car is Santro Xing 2007 model and has clocked 25K kms so far. It is majorly used for city driving alone.

I am facing this strange problem that when ever I press the clutch to change the gears, the engine rev goes up. Is there any good explanation for this? I have tried the following:

-> Petrol: I suspected the petrol and hence tried petrol from different bunks. The problem still persists. I now need to try the Speed version and see if it makes any difference.
-> Took the car to the service station and he said he will fix it. But it is partially fixed. During the day, I have no issues (at least not much). But the moment the headlights are on, I get the same problem.

Hi
The valve near air intake needs to be cleaned, if the problem persists then restart the car. I face the same problem for my zen. Its common for MFPI cars.

Shan2nu · 9th September 2009, 17:16

You're prob delaying coming off the throttle.

Do a test, when you're cruising, release the throttle completely and then press the clutch and see if the rpm rises.

Shan2nu

Shan2nu · 9th September 2009, 17:18

Quote:

The valve near air intake needs to be cleaned,

Is this intake valve or throttle valve?

Shan2nu

aaggoswami · 9th September 2009, 17:53

I had similar issue with Baleno. Later on highway drive, I tried to drive the car in relaxed manner. First go off the throttle completely, then press clutch, gear shift.
Here the rpm would not go up. Before heading to a service center, try to change gear after fully lifting off the throttle.

Generally this problem is faced by many and they end up in service center, come out without any result. My friend who drives Zen also thought there is something wrong, but the problem was that he tried to change quickly in city driving that lead to this rpm rise. IMHO, there is nothing wrong with your car.

meghan · 9th September 2009, 19:36

Wow! Seems to be a really common problem on Xings. Even ours has it.
In fact there are threads already on similar topics but I can't find them now.

I ave visited the service centres 3-4 times and still am facing the same issue.
Till now they have once changed the cleaned the throttle body, adjusted the clutch settings and have even suggested changing the clutch pedal. However I don't think my clutch has worne out and have not done that.

In my case, the rpm rises on just depressing the clutch fully irrespective of gear changes.

teknophobia · 10th September 2009, 10:32

Have you changed your shoes recently? The Xing has a pretty sensitive accelerator and I have seen situations where a change is shoes has led to friends losing estimates of how much to depress the pedal.

raghu · 10th September 2009, 14:18

Thanks a lot for the many replies.

@Uday, I have got the car only a week back from service and I had asked them explicitly to clean the valves. So dont think it is a problem with the valve.

@Shan2nu,
Normally I let go off the throttle before engaging the clutch. So not sure about that also. The thing is that I face this problem only in the low gears.

@meghan,
It's the same problem for me also. Basically I touch the clutch only when I have to change the gear and hence clubbed the two in the same sentence. The behavior is that I engage the clutch and rev goes up!!! Looks like a behavior issue with Xing

Let me check with a different petrol. Perhaps will go to a Shell dealer and check. I read in one of the threads here that Petrol seems to have an effect on the rev.

VinNbr · 10th September 2009, 14:31

Happens to my Santro too. A restart normally helps. I used to think the accelerator was getting caught in my shoes, so i switch off, press the clutch and accelerator a couple of times and switch on. Funny thing is, it works, although I don't know if its the pressing or the restart which fixes it

V

gpa · 11th September 2009, 12:44

Add me to this list as well. Have been noticing this problem occuring on and off since the past 4 and half years of my ownership of the car. Car still runs smoothly today even after 57,000 kms

bimi · 11th September 2009, 13:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by raghu

My car is Santro Xing 2007 model and has clocked 25K kms so far. It is majorly used for city driving alone.

I am facing this strange problem that when ever I press the clutch to change the gears, the engine rev goes up. Is there any good explanation for this? I have tried the following:.

Hi
I have a few questions before giving you some explanation & tips!
Have you used a higher wattage bulb?
If yes then I think it is a cause of concern

Secondly the computer module settings in the car might have been disturbed due to different operating situations (eg. different load given to engine system / electrical load / riding on the clutch etc.)

I heard on radio that a Hyundai Free car care clinic is happening at all dealerships. So why dont you make use of that!

Adios!

sunson · 11th October 2009, 07:06

I recently bought a used Santro LE (2001 model). The first day of driving was _mostly_ okay until I started driving with A/C when this exact same problem cropped up.

I do see many suggestions from the experts but does anyone know what exactly is the problem and what is the proper fix?

9th September 2009, 16:32	#1
raghu BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 27 Thanked: 5 Times	Xing: High rev when pressing the clutch during gear change My car is Santro Xing 2007 model and has clocked 25K kms so far. It is majorly used for city driving alone. I am facing this strange problem that when ever I press the clutch to change the gears, the engine rev goes up. Is there any good explanation for this? I have tried the following: -> Petrol: I suspected the petrol and hence tried petrol from different bunks. The problem still persists. I now need to try the Speed version and see if it makes any difference. -> Took the car to the service station and he said he will fix it. But it is partially fixed. During the day, I have no issues (at least not much). But the moment the headlights are on, I get the same problem.
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9th September 2009, 17:16	#3
Shan2nu Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hubli - Karnata Posts: 5,533 Thanked: 127 Times View My Garage	You're prob delaying coming off the throttle. Do a test, when you're cruising, release the throttle completely and then press the clutch and see if the rpm rises. Shan2nu
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9th September 2009, 17:53	#5
aaggoswami Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Vadodara Posts: 4,997 Thanked: 3,000 Times	I had similar issue with Baleno. Later on highway drive, I tried to drive the car in relaxed manner. First go off the throttle completely, then press clutch, gear shift. Here the rpm would not go up. Before heading to a service center, try to change gear after fully lifting off the throttle. Generally this problem is faced by many and they end up in service center, come out without any result. My friend who drives Zen also thought there is something wrong, but the problem was that he tried to change quickly in city driving that lead to this rpm rise. IMHO, there is nothing wrong with your car.
	() Thanks

9th September 2009, 19:36	#6
meghan BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mountain View Posts: 113 Thanked: 20 Times View My Garage	Wow! Seems to be a really common problem on Xings. Even ours has it. In fact there are threads already on similar topics but I can't find them now. I ave visited the service centres 3-4 times and still am facing the same issue. Till now they have once changed the cleaned the throttle body, adjusted the clutch settings and have even suggested changing the clutch pedal. However I don't think my clutch has worne out and have not done that. In my case, the rpm rises on just depressing the clutch fully irrespective of gear changes.
	() Thanks

10th September 2009, 10:32	#7
teknophobia BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: WB/MH Posts: 389 Thanked: 131 Times	Have you changed your shoes recently? The Xing has a pretty sensitive accelerator and I have seen situations where a change is shoes has led to friends losing estimates of how much to depress the pedal.
	() Thanks

10th September 2009, 14:18	#8
raghu BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 27 Thanked: 5 Times	Thanks a lot for the many replies. @Uday, I have got the car only a week back from service and I had asked them explicitly to clean the valves. So dont think it is a problem with the valve. @Shan2nu, Normally I let go off the throttle before engaging the clutch. So not sure about that also. The thing is that I face this problem only in the low gears. @meghan, It's the same problem for me also. Basically I touch the clutch only when I have to change the gear and hence clubbed the two in the same sentence. The behavior is that I engage the clutch and rev goes up!!! Looks like a behavior issue with Xing Let me check with a different petrol. Perhaps will go to a Shell dealer and check. I read in one of the threads here that Petrol seems to have an effect on the rev.
	() Thanks

10th September 2009, 14:31	#9
VinNbr Newbie Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 7 Thanked: 0 Times	High rev Happens to my Santro too. A restart normally helps. I used to think the accelerator was getting caught in my shoes, so i switch off, press the clutch and accelerator a couple of times and switch on. Funny thing is, it works, although I don't know if its the pressing or the restart which fixes it V
	() Thanks

11th September 2009, 12:44	#10
gpa Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,795 Thanked: 361 Times	Add me to this list as well. Have been noticing this problem occuring on and off since the past 4 and half years of my ownership of the car. Car still runs smoothly today even after 57,000 kms
	() Thanks

11th October 2009, 07:06	#12
sunson Newbie Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 14 Thanked: 5 Times	I recently bought a used Santro LE (2001 model). The first day of driving was _mostly_ okay until I started driving with A/C when this exact same problem cropped up. I do see many suggestions from the experts but does anyone know what exactly is the problem and what is the proper fix?
	() Thanks