Grinding noise coming from the front brakes of Swift Vxi when rolling back

vivekchugh · 20th September 2009, 10:58

I recently bought a swift Vxi which has done 4000 kms. I noticed a grinding noise coming from the front brakes when rolling back slowly on an incline from standstill. This happens only when rolling back when I press the brakes slowly. Can anyone tell me is this is normal?

gpa · 20th September 2009, 17:16

What you are experiencing is normal. This usually happens when the brakes are cold or after you have driven through water or washed the car.

mithun · 21st September 2009, 19:13

Recently changed the disc pads ?

OR

Did the A.S.S opened the brakes ?

If this happens only when in reverse, it's not normal.

SS-Traveller · 21st September 2009, 19:24

That's a non-issue. A grinding/grating sort of noise is expected when the discs/drums rub against the pads/shoes in the wrong direction (reverse), because they are not bedded in for full grip in that direction. Even a little moisture on the pads/shoes can produce that kind of noise.

If you don't get any noise while braking during forward movement, don't bother.

mithun · 21st September 2009, 21:38

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Originally Posted by SS-Traveller

That's a non-issue. A grinding/grating sort of noise is expected when the discs/drums rub against the pads/shoes in the wrong direction (reverse), because they are not bedded in for full grip in that direction. Even a little moisture on the pads/shoes can produce that kind of noise.

If you don't get any noise while braking during forward movement, don't bother.

I admit that the grinding/grating sort of noise arises when the discs/drums rub against the pads/shoes. But the noise would be there irrespective of the direction !

Then, Why this happens only during reverse ?

MutantX · 21st September 2009, 21:50

This happens on my i10 also. It is a common problem. When you take reverse in an inclined slope you get a "tak tak tak" sound. I have got the same sound. I would suggest, you compress your cluth completely when you take reverse. The problem is, when you take reverse in a slope, without the cluth being depressed, the back breaks come into effect countering the movement. Hence, I suggest you press your clutch completely when taking reverse in a slope. I tried it and I do not get the noise anymore.

SS-Traveller · 21st September 2009, 22:01

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Originally Posted by mithun

Why this happens only during reverse ?

Because the pad/shoe material, which sometimes has fine metallic fibres embedded in it, beds in, in the direction of use - forwards. When braking in reverse, the grip is not even, so the disc/drum stops in a jerky fashion, generating the noise. Can also sometimes happen going forwards - not as frequently though!

Quote:

Q: Sometimes my brakes make a grinding or groaning noise that only happens at very low speed stops. Are my brakes going bad?

A: Only a complete brake system inspection by a competent brake specialist can give you the truth, however the particular noise you are describing is generally considered normal, particularly on vehicles with semi-metallic pads or most front wheel drive cars. The noise is simply a vibration that can be more felt than heard coming from the front disc pads because on slower stops you don't have the brakes applied fully which allows them to vibrate against the rotor surface. Usually no service is required as the noise is unavoidable, however if the noise is constant and occurs at almost every stop, the brake system should get immediate service.

Quoted from: Just Brakes - Frequently Asked Questions on Brake Repair

s3va · 18th February 2010, 10:20

I have noticed this in my vehicle too. IF there is a traffic jam on a flyover and when I am driving down the incline, if I had to frequently stop and proceed on the slope, there is a grinding noise that is generated when the brakes are partially applied. I have not noticed if the same symptom exists during reverse but is evident in the forward direction.

What could it be ? My car is close to 5 months old and has run about 4500 kms.

SamtheLeo · 18th February 2010, 11:04

If it happening in slow speeds on both directions then it is normal. Else it is issue, try checking it in forward direction at very very slow speed ~ 5km/hr

s3va · 18th February 2010, 11:58

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Originally Posted by SamtheLeo

If it happening in slow speeds on both directions then it is normal. Else it is issue, try checking it in forward direction at very very slow speed ~ 5km/hr

It happens at very very slow speed. Its like, you dont apply the brakes completey, but during partial braking that you do when you want the car to move slowly in a traffic clogged incline where rolling down the car in 1st gear/neutral dont do any good !

Captain Haddock · 9th October 2015, 21:06

My wagon R suffers the same. I just replaced my brake cylinders and topped my fluid reservoir but the problem still persists. Brakes make a small hissing noise when the pedal is just pressed gently while reversing I explained this to the service center and they checked everything and found worn out brake cylinders and replaced it. Even then the problem persisted so they removed the wheel hubs and checked the brake liners they seemed ok.So I am back to square one, the old noise still persists. Can anyone help me here ?

20th September 2009, 10:58	#1
vivekchugh Newbie Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 4 Thanked: 0 Times	Grinding noise coming from the front brakes of Swift Vxi when rolling back I recently bought a swift Vxi which has done 4000 kms. I noticed a grinding noise coming from the front brakes when rolling back slowly on an incline from standstill. This happens only when rolling back when I press the brakes slowly. Can anyone tell me is this is normal?
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20th September 2009, 17:16	#2
gpa Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,789 Thanked: 340 Times	What you are experiencing is normal. This usually happens when the brakes are cold or after you have driven through water or washed the car.
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21st September 2009, 19:13	#3
mithun BANNED Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Cochin Posts: 2,195 Thanked: 268 Times	Recently changed the disc pads ? OR Did the A.S.S opened the brakes ? If this happens only when in reverse, it's not normal.
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21st September 2009, 19:24	#4
SS-Traveller Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: New Delhi Posts: 8,164 Thanked: 27,143 Times View My Garage	That's a non-issue. A grinding/grating sort of noise is expected when the discs/drums rub against the pads/shoes in the wrong direction (reverse), because they are not bedded in for full grip in that direction. Even a little moisture on the pads/shoes can produce that kind of noise. If you don't get any noise while braking during forward movement, don't bother.
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21st September 2009, 21:50	#6
MutantX BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Madras Posts: 868 Thanked: 93 Times View My Garage	This happens on my i10 also. It is a common problem. When you take reverse in an inclined slope you get a "tak tak tak" sound. I have got the same sound. I would suggest, you compress your cluth completely when you take reverse. The problem is, when you take reverse in a slope, without the cluth being depressed, the back breaks come into effect countering the movement. Hence, I suggest you press your clutch completely when taking reverse in a slope. I tried it and I do not get the noise anymore.
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18th February 2010, 10:20	#8
s3va BHPian Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dubai Posts: 646 Thanked: 5 Times View My Garage	I have noticed this in my vehicle too. IF there is a traffic jam on a flyover and when I am driving down the incline, if I had to frequently stop and proceed on the slope, there is a grinding noise that is generated when the brakes are partially applied. I have not noticed if the same symptom exists during reverse but is evident in the forward direction. What could it be ? My car is close to 5 months old and has run about 4500 kms.
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18th February 2010, 11:04	#9
SamtheLeo BHPian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Melbourne Posts: 451 Thanked: 26 Times	If it happening in slow speeds on both directions then it is normal. Else it is issue, try checking it in forward direction at very very slow speed ~ 5km/hr
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9th October 2015, 21:06	#11
Captain Haddock BHPian Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Cochin Posts: 115 Thanked: 152 Times	Re: Grinding noise coming from the front brakes of Swift Vxi when rolling back My wagon R suffers the same. I just replaced my brake cylinders and topped my fluid reservoir but the problem still persists. Brakes make a small hissing noise when the pedal is just pressed gently while reversing I explained this to the service center and they checked everything and found worn out brake cylinders and replaced it. Even then the problem persisted so they removed the wheel hubs and checked the brake liners they seemed ok.So I am back to square one, the old noise still persists. Can anyone help me here ?
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