Want to remove LPG kit from my Ikon ... Advice needed

wanderlustindia · 22nd September 2009, 17:43

Hi guys,

I had purchased a used Ford Ikon way back in March 2006 and its still doing duty with us. It came with a Lovata LPG kit. The LPG ran well for a few thousand kms after which it started giving a lot of problems. So, we disconnected the LPG and continued to run the car on petrol.

Now, the LPG kit is happily occupying our bootspace without any usage. I wish to get rid of it. But the kit is registered with the RTO and I am told I cannot get rid of it just like that. I'll need to get a NOC from the RTO, only then the kit can be removed.

What are my options? Please suggest.

Edit: Mods, please move this thread if its not in the appropriate place.

GTO · 22nd September 2009, 20:09

Just the fact that you have it endorsed on your RC book doesn't mean you have to be running it. Meaning, you have the RTO's green signal for the LPG kit, but that doesn't necessarily mean it has to be installed at all times. Think of it as a visa : I have a valid visa for xxx country, yet I could cancel my travel plans.

Just go to a competent shop and have it removed. And if are worried about that endorsement, hire an RTO agent to have it removed.

Rudra Sen · 22nd September 2009, 20:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by wanderlustindia

It came with a Lovata LPG kit.

Pardon my ignorance. Is that LPG kit is OE? If not then you don't have to inform RTO about removing it.

Mpower · 22nd September 2009, 20:39

Are you planning to sell the kit??

If not, then just remove the tank and free up your bootspace.

gigy · 22nd September 2009, 20:43

Even i am thinking of removing the lpg kit. what is the removal cost and how much are you getting for it. my kit cylinder is due for hst. earlier thought of going for a toroidal but it seems new lpg endorsement is done only if you move the filling port on the car body.i think if you personally get the endorsement removed it will cost you 50. if you give it to agent it will cost 2000.

leadf00t · 23rd September 2009, 09:40

Yes the 60 lit tank in the boot takes a hell lot of space. I too am planning to remove the 60 lit tank and fit a 30 kit torroidal tank in the spare wheel well.

I don't believe its necessary to get the change in tank endorsed by the RTO.
Any views?

wanderlustindia · 23rd September 2009, 09:57

The LPG kit is not OE. Its fitted after-market by the first owner of the vehicle. My only worry is that the endorsement is present on the RC book and if I remove the kit, what happens if I wish to sell the car in the near future? I think I'll confirm this with a LPG kit provider, they might know of similar cases.

I'll see if I can sell the kit to a LPG kit dealer in Pune or Navi Mumbai. Else, it has to be a give-away. BTW, the kit ain't functioning right now.

gigy · 23rd September 2009, 10:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by leadf00t

Yes the 60 lit tank in the boot takes a hell lot of space. I too am planning to remove the 60 lit tank and fit a 30 kit torroidal tank in the spare wheel well.

I don't believe its necessary to get the change in tank endorsed by the RTO.
Any views?

Go through your RC book and see if tank HST due date is mentioned on it. if its not there you can continue living with it. Rule says 5 years, Its more of personal safety thing than RTO requirement. my book is stamped and if a educated cop sees it it will become a major penalty

leadf00t · 23rd September 2009, 10:39

Ihave a smart card and it doesn't talk of any tank HST due date. just says fuel PETLPG
I guess I can safely swap it.

pramodkumar · 23rd September 2009, 11:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by wanderlustindia

if I remove the kit, what happens if I wish to sell the car in the near future?.

LPG in a petrol car is a good selling point in the used car market. If you dont need it just remove it and keep it with you. When you want to sell your car just install it back, its more or less like having some mods done according to your taste and reverting to stock setup whicle selling your car, just my 2 cents

Pramod

wanderlustindia · 23rd September 2009, 13:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by pramodkumar

LPG in a petrol car is a good selling point in the used car market.
Pramod

Provided its in good working condition! Unfortunately, its not. Hence, my idea of getting rid of it for good. I don't mind not getting a single penny, although the gas tank might fetch some price

.

esteem_lover · 23rd September 2009, 14:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudra Sen

Pardon my ignorance. Is that LPG kit is OE? If not then you don't have to inform RTO about removing it.

Ignorance being pardoned aside, he is talking about an used Ikon.

@ wanderlust, go ahead remove it. Put up the tank on classifieds, it should sell pretty fast. The new buyer will know that you have already experimented with LPG & given it up.

gigy · 23rd September 2009, 19:59

i decided to replace my car lpg tank and get smart card this time. when i asked how much if i get it removed then he will give me 2k for kit and charge me 2.5k to get the RC book cleared of lpg.

22nd September 2009, 17:43	#1
wanderlustindia BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 608 Thanked: 63 Times View My Garage	Want to remove LPG kit from my Ikon ... Advice needed Hi guys, I had purchased a used Ford Ikon way back in March 2006 and its still doing duty with us. It came with a Lovata LPG kit. The LPG ran well for a few thousand kms after which it started giving a lot of problems. So, we disconnected the LPG and continued to run the car on petrol. Now, the LPG kit is happily occupying our bootspace without any usage. I wish to get rid of it. But the kit is registered with the RTO and I am told I cannot get rid of it just like that. I'll need to get a NOC from the RTO, only then the kit can be removed. What are my options? Please suggest. Edit: Mods, please move this thread if its not in the appropriate place.
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22nd September 2009, 20:09	#2
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 70,546 Thanked: 300,788 Times View My Garage	Just the fact that you have it endorsed on your RC book doesn't mean you have to be running it. Meaning, you have the RTO's green signal for the LPG kit, but that doesn't necessarily mean it has to be installed at all times. Think of it as a visa : I have a valid visa for xxx country, yet I could cancel my travel plans. Just go to a competent shop and have it removed. And if are worried about that endorsement, hire an RTO agent to have it removed.
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22nd September 2009, 20:39	#4
Mpower Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 10,409 Thanked: 1,730 Times View My Garage	Are you planning to sell the kit?? If not, then just remove the tank and free up your bootspace.
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22nd September 2009, 20:43	#5
gigy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: mumbai Posts: 1,321 Thanked: 47 Times	Even i am thinking of removing the lpg kit. what is the removal cost and how much are you getting for it. my kit cylinder is due for hst. earlier thought of going for a toroidal but it seems new lpg endorsement is done only if you move the filling port on the car body.i think if you personally get the endorsement removed it will cost you 50. if you give it to agent it will cost 2000.
	() Thanks

23rd September 2009, 09:40	#6
leadf00t BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: MH04 Posts: 439 Thanked: 15 Times View My Garage	Yes the 60 lit tank in the boot takes a hell lot of space. I too am planning to remove the 60 lit tank and fit a 30 kit torroidal tank in the spare wheel well. I don't believe its necessary to get the change in tank endorsed by the RTO. Any views?
	() Thanks

23rd September 2009, 09:57	#7
wanderlustindia BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 608 Thanked: 63 Times View My Garage	The LPG kit is not OE. Its fitted after-market by the first owner of the vehicle. My only worry is that the endorsement is present on the RC book and if I remove the kit, what happens if I wish to sell the car in the near future? I think I'll confirm this with a LPG kit provider, they might know of similar cases. I'll see if I can sell the kit to a LPG kit dealer in Pune or Navi Mumbai. Else, it has to be a give-away. BTW, the kit ain't functioning right now.
	() Thanks

23rd September 2009, 10:39	#9
leadf00t BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: MH04 Posts: 439 Thanked: 15 Times View My Garage	Ihave a smart card and it doesn't talk of any tank HST due date. just says fuel PETLPG I guess I can safely swap it.
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23rd September 2009, 19:59	#13
gigy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: mumbai Posts: 1,321 Thanked: 47 Times	i decided to replace my car lpg tank and get smart card this time. when i asked how much if i get it removed then he will give me 2k for kit and charge me 2.5k to get the RC book cleared of lpg.
	() Thanks