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Old 4th November 2009, 19:16   #1
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My Linea jerks while downshifting the car

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My car jerks forward slightly shortly whenever I downshift the car, mostly at high speed, just like a bad downshift without rev matching. Not violent but you can definitely feel it.
I am wondering what could be the reason? Is it my bad driving habit or any other problem? Kindly help me out it is just 2 months old car..
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Old 4th November 2009, 20:04   #2
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I have been using my Linea for the last 2.5 months and never faced this problem. Nor has anyone faced this issue on the forum. It may be a driving habit issue due to the long clutch. Try releasing the clutch a bit slower. If this doesnt work go to TASS.
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In all likelihood, it is due to early release of clutch. Another way is if you release the clutch but don't rev the engine simultaneously. Looks like a driving habit problem to me.
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I have been using my Linea for the last 2.5 months and never faced this problem. Nor has anyone faced this issue on the forum. It may be a driving habit issue due to the long clutch. Try releasing the clutch a bit slower. If this doesnt work go to TASS.
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In all likelihood, it is due to early release of clutch. Another way is if you release the clutch but don't rev the engine simultaneously. Looks like a driving habit problem to me.
Actually this is happening irrespective of how fast or slowly I release the clutch. Is ABS is playing any role here or there is some kind of transmission problem.
At low speeds I don't feel this, but even in ghat section I felt this when I had the change the gear from 4th to 3rd while climbing.
Sometimes even I feel gears are not butter smooth while changing from 2nd to 3rd.
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Have you been facing this problem since the very beginning of your car purchase ? Or something that cropped recently only ?

If you've driven other cars before, have you experienced this earlier ?

Just trying to isolate between driving habit vs your new car.
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Hi Friends,

My car jerks forward slightly shortly whenever I downshift the car, mostly at high speed, just like a bad downshift without rev matching. Not violent but you can definitely feel it.
I am wondering what could be the reason? Is it my bad driving habit or any other problem? Kindly help me out it is just 2 months old car..
I personally feel that after you shift your gear you are releasing your clutch suddenly and hence this jerk. Try releasing the clutch smoothly after shifting the gear whether at high / low speeds.
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Have you been facing this problem since the very beginning of your car purchase ? Or something that cropped recently only ?

If you've driven other cars before, have you experienced this earlier ?

Just trying to isolate between driving habit vs your new car.
Yes I am facing it since the beginning. No this is my first car and I had not driven any car before

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I personally feel that after you shift your gear you are releasing your clutch suddenly and hence this jerk. Try releasing the clutch smoothly after shifting the gear whether at high / low speeds.
Jaisha8, I will definitely try to be extra careful while releasing clutch and will see how it goes..
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Old 5th November 2009, 00:48   #8
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Go easy on the clutch in general and the downshifts particularly. It can lead to hefty repair bills. While slowing down, tap the brakes first then, shift down by depressing the clutch fully shifting one gear lower and gently releasing the clutch while adjusting engine speed to match the speed of car.

Cheers,
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Try revv matching when you downshift. It'l take some practice but you'll want to do it all the time once you get a hang of it.

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Go easy on the clutch in general and the downshifts particularly. It can lead to hefty repair bills. While slowing down, tap the brakes first then, shift down by depressing the clutch fully shifting one gear lower and gently releasing the clutch while adjusting engine speed to match the speed of car.

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Try revv matching when you downshift. It'l take some practice but you'll want to do it all the time once you get a hang of it.

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Guys, I always used to change the gears when RPM is 2~2.5k(up) and downshift when RPM below this. So do you mean that I need to give gas as well at downshifting??

Thanks a lot to all of you for your valuable advices..
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Down the line, first of all congrats on your buy. Secondly your problem seems to me as a driving related one. Since this is your first car and the fact that you've never driven a car before leads me to assume this. But to be sure that there is no problem with the car do one thing- go drive a TD vehicle or somebody else's Linea (someone whom you know I mean). If its the same then obviously its your driving, but if the downshifting is smoother than your car then get your car checked up.
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You can ask the dealer to check it out if you can. Else ask a friend to give a try. I don't think you can get a answer online.
Enjoy!
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Guys, I always used to change the gears when RPM is 2~2.5k(up) and downshift when RPM below this. So do you mean that I need to give gas as well at downshifting??
Try down shifting at ~1500 RPM or less. If you are downshifting at say 2500 rpm, you are going to land at ~3500 rpm in lower gear. A quick release of clutch would result in some jerk.

About 2nd to 3dr shifting, key is not to force the shift. Do you really hold the gear and shift? If so, try shifting with an open palm.

Btw, which was your previous car? That would tell us a lot

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Yes I am facing it since the beginning. No this is my first car and I had not driven any car before
I'm sure this is because of your clutch release timings. Take some time with patience and try releasing the clutch smoothly and slowly.
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Guys, I always used to change the gears when RPM is 2~2.5k(up) and downshift when RPM below this. So do you mean that I need to give gas as well at downshifting??
Yes, when you upshift, the engine speed reduces the moment you press the clutch, so there is no rev matching required.

But when you downshift, the engine speed in the lower gear will be higher as compared to the gear you've just shifting from. So its upto you to make sure that the engine revs are matched with the trans revs in order to have a quick and smooth downshift.

Watch how he revs the engine while downshifting.


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