Ignition Key Esteem VX 2001 - comes off even when engine is on

dev_kudle · 19th November 2009, 20:16

Hi All,

I don't know, if this issue has been discussed earlier or not. I tried searching, but was not able to find anything releated. Hence, requesting help in a new thread.
@MODS: Please merge the thread, if issue already exists.

Ok Seniors, my problem/confusion is that, the ignition key of my Esteem VX 2001 easily comes off even when the engine is running.
I'm confused, whether it will pose any problem/danger in future to me and my Esteem? If yes, what are the areas should I look into? Should I go for duplicate key? Or, this will not make any difference.
I have a duplicate key, which was given to me by the dealer when I purchased this car last year, but, that key doesn't fit to the ignition/ door-looks (ie it open the locks, but then doesn't come off).
Is this really serious? I'm really confused. Any help

Regards,
Dev_Kudle

dev_kudle · 20th November 2009, 14:45

Hi,

Any one out here, willing to suggest me something?

Or should I leave the ignition key issue as it is, if it's not a big deal?

Regards.

techn0l0gist · 20th November 2009, 16:21

most probably the ignition lock is worn out - you'll have to buy another ignition lock from your MGP dealer/MASS and replace the current one - you'll get two more keys with the new lock and you'll have to carry this along with your door keys!

You also have the option of buying a lock set which costs around 2.2k or so and replace all the locks.

nitrous · 20th November 2009, 16:25

I had the same issue in my esteem.
The key's thickness wears out over time.
I got a new key made for 50 bucks and the issue is almost solved.

esteem_lover · 20th November 2009, 16:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitrous

I had the same issue in my esteem.
The key's thickness wears out over time.
I got a new key made for 50 bucks and the issue is almost solved.

I did that & then after a while went the extra mile & changed the entire set, 2 doors, ignition glove box, boot. Now it's brand new, costed around 2.6k. After all the car is 8-9 years old, suggest getting the whole set replaced.

dev_kudle · 20th November 2009, 16:41

Hi All,

Thanks for the responses.
I will go the complete set

But, still have this query, what are the adverse effects, if the ignition key tends to come-off the hole?

Regards.

Takumi-san · 20th November 2009, 17:32

no adverse effects in terms of danger , but say it falls off and you dont notice it. it could end up in a corner / nook of the car where you may not see it. This means you wont be able to switch off the car when you reach your destination nor lock it.

rr_zen · 20th November 2009, 17:40

Yeah, the only problem is it may fall off while driving. But then, I think one would still be able to switch off the engine by partly inserting any other key ( I have tried this in my bikes and it worked, not sure if it would work for the car as well

)

As suggested by our friends, the best bet is to change the entire set and live in peace.

esteem_lover · 20th November 2009, 17:42

No problems as long as you do not lock yourself out of the car with the engine running, happened to me once.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Takumi-san

no adverse effects in terms of danger , but say it falls off and you dont notice it. it could end up in a corner / nook of the car where you may not see it. This means you wont be able to switch off the car when you reach your destination nor lock it.

Actually you can switch off & lock your car, but you cannot open it or self start it.

bblost · 20th November 2009, 17:45

You guys don't know how to stall an engine?

Forgot the time you were learning how to drive/ ride.
Those days it was tough to just keep it on.
and now trying to figure out how to switch it off.

akshaymahajan · 20th November 2009, 17:46

i used to have the same problem in my 800. but i just started the car and put the key back in my pocket.

and before the problem could start irritating me sumone stole my car from in front of my college.

dev_kudle · 20th November 2009, 17:51

Hi Again,

Thanks for the responses.
Will run for MASS tomorrow early morning to get this done

Till then, have a nice weekend.

Regards.

manikjeet · 20th November 2009, 17:52

just have a new key made and your problem would be solved had the same issue with my Zen and Alto

dev_kudle · 23rd November 2009, 13:45

Hi All,

Changed the whole set. Now, all is well regarding ignition key, it's holding tight in the key hole.

But, a strange issue is happening now. The headlights are not switching off.

Not even when I lock the car. Checked the fuses, they are fine. Cutout wiring is also fine. STRANGE. Atlast I removed the red wire from cutout to switch them off tempararily. Now, the headlights are off, but the 'High-beam' indicator on the panel id still on. Hence removed the fuses from cockpit.

What could be the issue. Have I done the correct thing by removing the cutout wire and fuses to swich off the headlights for the time being??

Please suggest.

esteem_lover · 23rd November 2009, 13:53

Obviously our incompetent MASS mechanics have screwed up the wiring while R&R the steering combination switch. Get it back to them for rectification. In the meanwhile, removing the fuse alone should do.

19th November 2009, 20:16	#1
dev_kudle BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Pune Posts: 65 Thanked: 24 Times	Ignition Key Esteem VX 2001 - comes off even when engine is on Hi All, I don't know, if this issue has been discussed earlier or not. I tried searching, but was not able to find anything releated. Hence, requesting help in a new thread. @MODS: Please merge the thread, if issue already exists. Ok Seniors, my problem/confusion is that, the ignition key of my Esteem VX 2001 easily comes off even when the engine is running. I'm confused, whether it will pose any problem/danger in future to me and my Esteem? If yes, what are the areas should I look into? Should I go for duplicate key? Or, this will not make any difference. I have a duplicate key, which was given to me by the dealer when I purchased this car last year, but, that key doesn't fit to the ignition/ door-looks (ie it open the locks, but then doesn't come off). Is this really serious? I'm really confused. Any help Regards, Dev_Kudle
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20th November 2009, 14:45	#2
dev_kudle BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Pune Posts: 65 Thanked: 24 Times	Hi, Any one out here, willing to suggest me something? Or should I leave the ignition key issue as it is, if it's not a big deal? Regards.
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20th November 2009, 16:21	#3
techn0l0gist BHPian Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Goa Posts: 366 Thanked: 94 Times	most probably the ignition lock is worn out - you'll have to buy another ignition lock from your MGP dealer/MASS and replace the current one - you'll get two more keys with the new lock and you'll have to carry this along with your door keys! You also have the option of buying a lock set which costs around 2.2k or so and replace all the locks.
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20th November 2009, 16:25	#4
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,964 Thanked: 333 Times View My Garage	I had the same issue in my esteem. The key's thickness wears out over time. I got a new key made for 50 bucks and the issue is almost solved.
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20th November 2009, 16:41	#6
dev_kudle BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Pune Posts: 65 Thanked: 24 Times	Hi All, Thanks for the responses. I will go the complete set But, still have this query, what are the adverse effects, if the ignition key tends to come-off the hole? Regards.
	() Thanks

20th November 2009, 17:32	#7
Takumi-san BHPian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Melbourne Posts: 368 Thanked: 121 Times View My Garage	no adverse effects in terms of danger , but say it falls off and you dont notice it. it could end up in a corner / nook of the car where you may not see it. This means you wont be able to switch off the car when you reach your destination nor lock it.
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20th November 2009, 17:40	#8
rr_zen Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 1,810 Thanked: 423 Times View My Garage	Yeah, the only problem is it may fall off while driving. But then, I think one would still be able to switch off the engine by partly inserting any other key ( I have tried this in my bikes and it worked, not sure if it would work for the car as well ) As suggested by our friends, the best bet is to change the entire set and live in peace.
	() Thanks

20th November 2009, 17:45	#10
bblost Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 11,299 Thanked: 18,005 Times View My Garage	You guys don't know how to stall an engine? Forgot the time you were learning how to drive/ ride. Those days it was tough to just keep it on. and now trying to figure out how to switch it off.
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20th November 2009, 17:46	#11
akshaymahajan BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Delhi Posts: 608 Thanked: 468 Times	i used to have the same problem in my 800. but i just started the car and put the key back in my pocket. and before the problem could start irritating me sumone stole my car from in front of my college.
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20th November 2009, 17:51	#12
dev_kudle BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Pune Posts: 65 Thanked: 24 Times	Hi Again, Thanks for the responses. Will run for MASS tomorrow early morning to get this done Till then, have a nice weekend. Regards.
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20th November 2009, 17:52	#13
manikjeet Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: chandigarh Posts: 1,617 Thanked: 296 Times View My Garage	just have a new key made and your problem would be solved had the same issue with my Zen and Alto
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23rd November 2009, 13:45	#14
dev_kudle BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Pune Posts: 65 Thanked: 24 Times	Hi All, Changed the whole set. Now, all is well regarding ignition key, it's holding tight in the key hole. But, a strange issue is happening now. The headlights are not switching off. Not even when I lock the car. Checked the fuses, they are fine. Cutout wiring is also fine. STRANGE. Atlast I removed the red wire from cutout to switch them off tempararily. Now, the headlights are off, but the 'High-beam' indicator on the panel id still on. Hence removed the fuses from cockpit. What could be the issue. Have I done the correct thing by removing the cutout wire and fuses to swich off the headlights for the time being?? Please suggest.
	() Thanks

23rd November 2009, 13:53	#15
esteem_lover Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Madras/Py Posts: 7,556 Thanked: 513 Times View My Garage	Obviously our incompetent MASS mechanics have screwed up the wiring while R&R the steering combination switch. Get it back to them for rectification. In the meanwhile, removing the fuse alone should do.
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