Accord Clutch: Stuck with Family: Please help !

delhi2009 · 15th August 2010, 16:31

This is somewhat urgent and i request everyone who can help me to pls help ! I just reached mussorie and while searching for hotels, the car had to climb the ramps to certain hotels, at 1 such hotel, my crappy driver kept the clutch pressed and revving the car to 4000-5000rpm for about 10 minutes or so and i noticed some black rubber smelling smoke from tail pipe which i was clueless about . i finally moved the car and as soon as i touched the mall road, it would'nt move in any gear ! i switched the carr off and after 5 minutes or so, the car is moving after full cluth is depressed. But all through this time, its smelling bad now and im a little tense as im travelling with my wife and 9 months old baby .

I was somehow blessed and lucky that i met a mechanic who works on imported cars in Delhi and , who was to do my car's clutch in Delhi once i reached delhi. He explained that due to excessing revving, some rubber etc. has burnt and if i park car for few hours, things would be better and the car can be driven to delhi. Can you guys please help and tell me what exactly has happened and this car can be driven back to Delhi ? Also, the fluid level in the car is low now so as i type this message, i've sent the driver to fetch some dot3/dot4 fluid to top up the fluid levels.

Guys please help propmptly !

Thank you all !

Also, the car has just done 64000 KM so is this about time the clutch can get blown out ?

SPIKE ARRESTOR · 15th August 2010, 16:42

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Originally Posted by delhi2009

He explained that due to excessing revving, some rubber etc. has burnt and if i park car for few hours, things would be better and the car can be driven to delhi.

Due to over-revving which rubber has burnt? Rubber from tyres? First of all replenish it with the necessary fluids, check if there is any leak, then try moving the vehicle. BTW, is there any change in pedal feel after the incident?

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Originally Posted by delhi2009

Also, the car has just done 64000 KM so is this about time the clutch can get blown out ?

64000 km doesn't necessarily mean clutch has reached its end. Please keep us posted.

Spike

delhi2009 · 15th August 2010, 16:43

The rubber he was referring to some clutch rubber etc. . The pedal has become very very smooth after this happening.

tanwaramit · 15th August 2010, 16:55

Wait for a few hours, clutch plate has fried. If the damage is not BIG, you will be able to drive it down back to Delhi with pathetic FE and pickup. Pray that the damage be minimal.

Try the car after a few hrs and let us know.

delhi2009 · 15th August 2010, 17:05

Im keeping my fingers crossed but im wondering...did just few minutes of revving caused so much damage ? Also, if this is of any help, when i opened the bonnet, it was excessively hot inside, which it is'nt usually.

SPIKE ARRESTOR · 15th August 2010, 17:05

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Originally Posted by delhi2009

The rubber he was referring to some clutch rubber etc. . The pedal has become very very smooth after this happening.

There is no rubber in a clutch plate which comes in contact with rotating parts. Pedal must have become smooth as fluid was less. I presume the pedal travel has also increased.

Spike

delhi2009 · 15th August 2010, 17:12

Yes ! Its going all the way down ! And only when releasing and when it comes to top, the car moves ! So is it a sureshot clutch failure ? Was on Line with Divine Honda Dehradun, they claim it would cost 20K for the job and they'll get the car ready by 3.00 pm tommorow. But im still thinking if it can be driven to delhi and if its worth taking the chance ?

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Got a call from Divine Honda : Clutch unavailable :( so i have to take delhi anyhow.

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Ok i went to the car to check. It seems there is still a very strong rubber smell in the parked car which seems to be coming from the silencer (Any idea what went there ?) Also, the clutch is very smooth now & there used to be a tik sound when clutch was fully pressed, its become more prominent at the same place where it used to be (on fully pressing the clutch).

akshay4587 · 15th August 2010, 17:45

As everyone has said,let the car cool down completely and things will get better.
i guess you leave the car overnight,and drive down to dehradun carefully tommorow morning,its like 30kms and its all downhill,so you can ask your driver to drive it down and get it checked at honda A.S.S in Ddun

delhi2009 · 15th August 2010, 18:26

Divine honda service mgr said its clutch replacement that is required but they dont have any clutch available. In any case, im going to wait now till tommorow morning and see what happens. In the meantime, please do advise about anything you guys can possible help on, maybe if anyone got stuck similarly, any experience about how car responded.

DRIV3R · 15th August 2010, 18:37

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Originally Posted by delhi2009

Also, the fluid level in the car is low now so as i type this message, i've sent the driver to fetch some dot3/dot4 fluid to top up the fluid levels.

Guys please help propmptly !

Thank you all !

What fluids are we talking here? DOT3/DOT4 fluids are for the braking system!

SPIKE ARRESTOR · 15th August 2010, 21:12

Clutch systems (Clutch master and slave cylinder) also use the same fluid as mentioned above.

cruiser@0523 · 15th August 2010, 21:38

Happened with me when my friend reversed his zen 1km on a very steep off road incline some time back, the car was emitting black smoke from gearbox area at that time, but we let the car cool down for a few hours, i then drove that car all the way to Kasauli and back to Chandigarh, it has been a week and the car is running perfectly, i reckon you can easily take the car back to Delhi and then get it checked at the service center, or you can stop at Chandigarh and get it checked.

delhi2009 · 15th August 2010, 21:54

Thanks cruiser for the support ! Badly need some good words but on a reality check, i started the car just 5 minutes back and noticed the car is only going forward on last 15% clutch (scale full pressing to 100 and full dipressing to 0%). You guys think i can make it ? Well the car is parked at fortune ITC and im having some good time there except for the time i see the babe and cry :( . But yes, i do have to start back by tuesday and with an Infant and lady onboard, i cannot really take chance of being stranded in middle of nowhere. So what im thinking is to ask my other driver to start with the Indica from Delhi 2 hours prior to from the time i start from Mussorie. Even if the car fails, we could still meet up and tow the car if needed. Else,....well lets keep the fingers crossed for now !

drpullockaran · 15th August 2010, 23:27

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Originally Posted by delhi2009

Thanks cruiser for the support ! Badly need some good words but on a reality check, i started the car just 5 minutes back and noticed the car is only going forward on last 15% clutch (scale full pressing to 100 and full depressing to 0%). You guys think i can make it ?

Yes you can make it provided you do not change gears unless absolutely necessary. This would mean going back to your house using 3rd and 4th gear only after changing 1st and 2nd as soon as possible and taking care not to rev the engine more than 50% of peak torque rpm. Under no circumstances should you slip the clutch or use engine braking to slow down the car. Use your brakes for slowing down. If there is a bus service I suggest you send your wife and child by transport bus. Its better that the Indica is there to escort you through out your journey if family is travelling. If your wife and kids travel separately or by the Indica its easy for you to travel alone towards your house. Less laden weight in the car will make life easy on the clutch plate which is in its last stages of life.

delhi2009 · 15th August 2010, 23:49

Thank you for your Input drpullockaran . I was checking another thread about clutch issues which mentioned how the average of the car, pickup etc. would drop. I did Delhi Haridwar Mussorie (upto Mall) Absolutely fine and on my tank top after Haridwar, i found the average i got on Delhi-Haridwar Route was 12.1 ! Also, while 15% of the clutch release works, the car is not trembling or giving any jerks. Any good signs for me in this or is it just excessive engine power overshadowing this issue ? Could really just 10 minutes of revving spoil the clutch so bad ? :(.....

15th August 2010, 16:31	#1
delhi2009 BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: New Delhi Posts: 114 Thanked: 24 Times	This is somewhat urgent and i request everyone who can help me to pls help ! I just reached mussorie and while searching for hotels, the car had to climb the ramps to certain hotels, at 1 such hotel, my crappy driver kept the clutch pressed and revving the car to 4000-5000rpm for about 10 minutes or so and i noticed some black rubber smelling smoke from tail pipe which i was clueless about . i finally moved the car and as soon as i touched the mall road, it would'nt move in any gear ! i switched the carr off and after 5 minutes or so, the car is moving after full cluth is depressed. But all through this time, its smelling bad now and im a little tense as im travelling with my wife and 9 months old baby . I was somehow blessed and lucky that i met a mechanic who works on imported cars in Delhi and , who was to do my car's clutch in Delhi once i reached delhi. He explained that due to excessing revving, some rubber etc. has burnt and if i park car for few hours, things would be better and the car can be driven to delhi. Can you guys please help and tell me what exactly has happened and this car can be driven back to Delhi ? Also, the fluid level in the car is low now so as i type this message, i've sent the driver to fetch some dot3/dot4 fluid to top up the fluid levels. Guys please help propmptly ! Thank you all ! Also, the car has just done 64000 KM so is this about time the clutch can get blown out ? Last edited by Rehaan : 26th August 2010 at 17:24. Reason: Please use the EDIT button to add to an existing post within 20 minutes instead of posting another consecutive post.
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15th August 2010, 16:43	#3
delhi2009 BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: New Delhi Posts: 114 Thanked: 24 Times	The rubber he was referring to some clutch rubber etc. . The pedal has become very very smooth after this happening.
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15th August 2010, 16:55	#4
tanwaramit Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Dilwalon ki Dilli Posts: 1,946 Thanked: 514 Times	Wait for a few hours, clutch plate has fried. If the damage is not BIG, you will be able to drive it down back to Delhi with pathetic FE and pickup. Pray that the damage be minimal. Try the car after a few hrs and let us know. Last edited by tanwaramit : 15th August 2010 at 16:57.
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15th August 2010, 17:05	#5
delhi2009 BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: New Delhi Posts: 114 Thanked: 24 Times	Im keeping my fingers crossed but im wondering...did just few minutes of revving caused so much damage ? Also, if this is of any help, when i opened the bonnet, it was excessively hot inside, which it is'nt usually.
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15th August 2010, 17:12	#7
delhi2009 BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: New Delhi Posts: 114 Thanked: 24 Times	Yes ! Its going all the way down ! And only when releasing and when it comes to top, the car moves ! So is it a sureshot clutch failure ? Was on Line with Divine Honda Dehradun, they claim it would cost 20K for the job and they'll get the car ready by 3.00 pm tommorow. But im still thinking if it can be driven to delhi and if its worth taking the chance ? ---------------- Got a call from Divine Honda : Clutch unavailable :( so i have to take delhi anyhow. ---------------- Ok i went to the car to check. It seems there is still a very strong rubber smell in the parked car which seems to be coming from the silencer (Any idea what went there ?) Also, the clutch is very smooth now & there used to be a tik sound when clutch was fully pressed, its become more prominent at the same place where it used to be (on fully pressing the clutch). Last edited by Rehaan : 26th August 2010 at 17:25. Reason: Please use the EDIT button to add to an existing post within 20 minutes instead of posting another consecutive post.
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15th August 2010, 17:45	#8
akshay4587 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chandigarh/Mohali/Ambala Cantt Posts: 4,157 Thanked: 4,724 Times View My Garage	As everyone has said,let the car cool down completely and things will get better. i guess you leave the car overnight,and drive down to dehradun carefully tommorow morning,its like 30kms and its all downhill,so you can ask your driver to drive it down and get it checked at honda A.S.S in Ddun
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15th August 2010, 18:26	#9
delhi2009 BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: New Delhi Posts: 114 Thanked: 24 Times	Divine honda service mgr said its clutch replacement that is required but they dont have any clutch available. In any case, im going to wait now till tommorow morning and see what happens. In the meantime, please do advise about anything you guys can possible help on, maybe if anyone got stuck similarly, any experience about how car responded.
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15th August 2010, 21:12	#11
SPIKE ARRESTOR Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 2,855 Thanked: 1,545 Times	Clutch systems (Clutch master and slave cylinder) also use the same fluid as mentioned above.
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15th August 2010, 21:38	#12
cruiser@0523 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Chandigarh Posts: 197 Thanked: 72 Times	Happened with me when my friend reversed his zen 1km on a very steep off road incline some time back, the car was emitting black smoke from gearbox area at that time, but we let the car cool down for a few hours, i then drove that car all the way to Kasauli and back to Chandigarh, it has been a week and the car is running perfectly, i reckon you can easily take the car back to Delhi and then get it checked at the service center, or you can stop at Chandigarh and get it checked.
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15th August 2010, 21:54	#13
delhi2009 BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: New Delhi Posts: 114 Thanked: 24 Times	Thanks cruiser for the support ! Badly need some good words but on a reality check, i started the car just 5 minutes back and noticed the car is only going forward on last 15% clutch (scale full pressing to 100 and full dipressing to 0%). You guys think i can make it ? Well the car is parked at fortune ITC and im having some good time there except for the time i see the babe and cry :( . But yes, i do have to start back by tuesday and with an Infant and lady onboard, i cannot really take chance of being stranded in middle of nowhere. So what im thinking is to ask my other driver to start with the Indica from Delhi 2 hours prior to from the time i start from Mussorie. Even if the car fails, we could still meet up and tow the car if needed. Else,....well lets keep the fingers crossed for now !
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15th August 2010, 23:49	#15
delhi2009 BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: New Delhi Posts: 114 Thanked: 24 Times	Thank you for your Input drpullockaran . I was checking another thread about clutch issues which mentioned how the average of the car, pickup etc. would drop. I did Delhi Haridwar Mussorie (upto Mall) Absolutely fine and on my tank top after Haridwar, i found the average i got on Delhi-Haridwar Route was 12.1 ! Also, while 15% of the clutch release works, the car is not trembling or giving any jerks. Any good signs for me in this or is it just excessive engine power overshadowing this issue ? Could really just 10 minutes of revving spoil the clutch so bad ? :(.....
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