Age induced issues with ikon, need help.

xbox360 · 24th November 2010, 09:37

My Ikon is now close to 6 yrs old and i think the front shock absorbers need to be changed and the silencer too is making noise and something may need to be done here too. Mody Ford folks are quoting 15k for silencer replacement and 2500/- per front shock absorber.

I think this is daylight robbery given that the spare price cost mentioned in other threads are much lower. Can anyone please suggest the best way forward -- is there a way to get ford folks to come down on the price, or is there a trusted local shop that you can point me to get stuff like this done (i stay near Madhapur in HYD).

Will really appreciate a quick response as i am planning to have the service done on this Friday.

**Mods if this is not the right section for this thread, please move this appropriately

Fordmanchau · 24th November 2010, 11:17

Hi Xbox,
You don't you take a second opinion from the Fortune Ford, Tolichowki service centre. I bought my car from Fortune ford and have been getting the car serviced from their Tolichowki Service centre.
IMO they seem to be fair on the pricing front. Call up and enquire about the prices and then decide.

pankaj_sachdeva · 24th November 2010, 11:29

Best way to go and look for a trusted FNG. your car is 6 years old , so why bother with the authorized service center.
The quote for silencer replacement is too high and I remember getting my ikon's silencer replacement done in tune of 6.5 K last year.

Edit : Please check the Team Bhp directory for Hyd and you will get a reference for New Mars garage, have read good reviews about this garage on some threads, the owner seems very knowledgeable (check the 4*4 vehicle section and you can see a thread for his Rubicon replica jeep). Also I believe some of the HYD bhpians are associated with this garage and they can be of help in your case.

xbox360 · 24th November 2010, 13:32

Thanks Guys, i will talk to both the Fortune folks and the Mars workshop and pick the one which is reasonable.

SPARKled · 24th November 2010, 22:12

I just had a complete front suspension replacement/overhaul of my 6+ year old Ikon. You can check my thread about the exact parts replaced and cost involved.

xbox360 · 25th November 2010, 07:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPARKled

I just had a complete front suspension replacement/overhaul of my 6+ year old Ikon. You can check my thread about the exact parts replaced and cost involved.

Sorry i could not make out from your posts whether you took your vehicle to a Ford service center or regular garage.

sandeepmohan · 25th November 2010, 08:04

The price for parts quoted by your service station are not wrong. Its spot on infact. I got my exhaust and suspension over haul done 6 months ago and it cost me Rs. 2500 per suspension strut and Rs. 15000 was quoted for the exhaust. The strange thing is when I finally got the bill the charges for the exhaust was Rs. 11000.

Don't bother going to a FNG as the parts for this car are on the higher side. An FNG cannot get it any cheaper as they have to source the parts from Ford.

SPARKled · 25th November 2010, 09:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by xbox360

Sorry i could not make out from your posts whether you took your vehicle to a Ford service center or regular garage.

I took it Bhavna Ford the authorized dealer in these parts. The thread is here
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...uestion-2.html

SirAlec · 25th November 2010, 23:12

15k for the silencer? He is quoting along with Cat con. That is expensive. IF the cat can is fine i think you can just change the muffler. Normally these are bolted together.

For shocks use Gabriel. They are cheap an does the work well.

If you can post the images of Silencer. ? If the hole is small it can be patched with gas weilding for about Rs.250.

If cat con is gone, you are doomed. If you are not environment friendly

and PUC not strict in your city just by pass it, any good wielder can do it.

Jaggu · 25th November 2010, 23:29

It comes as a single unit at dealers, the exhaust unit, hence the price. Small holes can be welded but will not last long in a ford, that metal is so thin that welding itself is a big exercise. Try after market bits after the cat con, should come in 6-7k max.

Suspension go with genuine stuff either OE or from manufacturer like gabriel. But 2.5 is not a big price to pay for a shockie.

pankaj_sachdeva · 26th November 2010, 10:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandeepmohan

Don't bother going to a FNG as the parts for this car are on the higher side. An FNG cannot get it any cheaper as they have to source the parts from Ford.

Nope, not entirely correct. FNG's can and do source parts aftermarket parts. In-fact I have a 1.6 from last 7 years and the car went to Ford A.S.S till it was in warranty i.e. 2 years. it is been 5 years the car is going to FNG and they get the parts from trusted sources.

Also to mention there are many parts which are same as the authorized ones in-terms of parts manufacturer and specifications, only difference is that ford logo is not stamped on them. Experienced the same while getting the ignition coil and I do recollect reading sammyboy's or benny's ownership thread and it confirms the same.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaggu

It comes as a single unit at dealers, the exhaust unit, hence the price. Small holes can be welded but will not last long in a ford, that metal is so thin that welding itself is a big exercise. Try after market bits after the cat con, should come in 6-7k max.

Spot on sir, i got the silencer assembly after the cat con from Bosch Car Service and it was 6.4K.

benbsb29 · 26th November 2010, 13:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by pankaj_sachdeva

Also to mention there are many parts which are same as the authorized ones in-terms of parts manufacturer and specifications, only difference is that ford logo is not stamped on them. Experienced the same while getting the ignition coil and I do recollect reading sammyboy's or benny's ownership thread and it confirms the same.

That was my ownership thread you were referring to. Sammy's vehicle hasnt had to replace the ignition coil.

As for the silencer assembly, i will need to check with the spare parts shop i go to, about their price. Not sure if it also includes the cost of the catcon.

xbox360 · 6th June 2011, 17:07

Guys another question (this is regarding mileage):- Now a days this vehicle is being used for an avg of 8 kms/day and the drive varies from of 4 to 30Km runs . I have been tracking the fuel efficiency, and in the last few runs the mileage has been ~8kms/litre. The service center people simply cleaned the air filter when i called this out in the last service.

Question -- Whatever be the usage, should it be this low? If not, how to go about debugging this?

mayankk · 6th June 2011, 17:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by xbox360

Guys another question (this is regarding mileage):- Now a days this vehicle is being used for an avg of 8 kms/day and the drive varies from of 4 to 30Km runs . I have been tracking the fuel efficiency, and in the last few runs the mileage has been ~8kms/litre. The service center people simply cleaned the air filter when i called this out in the last service.

Question -- Whatever be the usage, should it be this low? If not, how to go about debugging this?

you cannot ignore usage.
your 4km to 8km runs will be the ones bringing down the everage, the most.

Fordmanchau · 6th June 2011, 17:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by xbox360

Guys another question (this is regarding mileage):- Now a days this vehicle is being used for an avg of 8 kms/day and the drive varies from of 4 to 30Km runs . I have been tracking the fuel efficiency, and in the last few runs the mileage has been ~8kms/litre.

Last whole month , I drove nowhere except home-office-home and when I refilled the tank 3 days back, my mileage also stood at 8kmpl.
It's the lowest I have got in 2.5 years now.
The home-office-home run is around 9kms only.
So that's okay for you also I guess, plus I also warm up the engine for around 1 minutes daily, which might have also helped in lowering FE.

24th November 2010, 09:37	#1
xbox360 BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 251 Thanked: 89 Times View My Garage	Age induced issues with ikon, need help. My Ikon is now close to 6 yrs old and i think the front shock absorbers need to be changed and the silencer too is making noise and something may need to be done here too. Mody Ford folks are quoting 15k for silencer replacement and 2500/- per front shock absorber. I think this is daylight robbery given that the spare price cost mentioned in other threads are much lower. Can anyone please suggest the best way forward -- is there a way to get ford folks to come down on the price, or is there a trusted local shop that you can point me to get stuff like this done (i stay near Madhapur in HYD). Will really appreciate a quick response as i am planning to have the service done on this Friday. **Mods if this is not the right section for this thread, please move this appropriately
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24th November 2010, 11:17	#2
Fordmanchau Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 1,666 Thanked: 340 Times	Hi Xbox, You don't you take a second opinion from the Fortune Ford, Tolichowki service centre. I bought my car from Fortune ford and have been getting the car serviced from their Tolichowki Service centre. IMO they seem to be fair on the pricing front. Call up and enquire about the prices and then decide.
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24th November 2010, 11:29	#3
pankaj_sachdeva BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Was PB, DL, HR , KA and Now GJ-1 Posts: 248 Thanked: 21 Times	Best way to go and look for a trusted FNG. your car is 6 years old , so why bother with the authorized service center. The quote for silencer replacement is too high and I remember getting my ikon's silencer replacement done in tune of 6.5 K last year. Edit : Please check the Team Bhp directory for Hyd and you will get a reference for New Mars garage, have read good reviews about this garage on some threads, the owner seems very knowledgeable (check the 44 vehicle section and you can see a thread for his Rubicon replica jeep). Also I believe some of the HYD bhpians are associated with this garage and they can be of help in your case. Last edited by pankaj_sachdeva : 24th November 2010 at 11:34.*
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24th November 2010, 13:32	#4
xbox360 BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 251 Thanked: 89 Times View My Garage	Thanks Guys, i will talk to both the Fortune folks and the Mars workshop and pick the one which is reasonable.
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24th November 2010, 22:12	#5
SPARKled Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Navi Mumbai Posts: 1,110 Thanked: 656 Times	I just had a complete front suspension replacement/overhaul of my 6+ year old Ikon. You can check my thread about the exact parts replaced and cost involved.
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25th November 2010, 08:04	#7
sandeepmohan Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Wellington Posts: 3,133 Thanked: 5,443 Times	The price for parts quoted by your service station are not wrong. Its spot on infact. I got my exhaust and suspension over haul done 6 months ago and it cost me Rs. 2500 per suspension strut and Rs. 15000 was quoted for the exhaust. The strange thing is when I finally got the bill the charges for the exhaust was Rs. 11000. Don't bother going to a FNG as the parts for this car are on the higher side. An FNG cannot get it any cheaper as they have to source the parts from Ford.
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25th November 2010, 23:12	#9
SirAlec Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: zxc Posts: 3,393 Thanked: 726 Times	15k for the silencer? He is quoting along with Cat con. That is expensive. IF the cat can is fine i think you can just change the muffler. Normally these are bolted together. For shocks use Gabriel. They are cheap an does the work well. If you can post the images of Silencer. ? If the hole is small it can be patched with gas weilding for about Rs.250. If cat con is gone, you are doomed. If you are not environment friendly and PUC not strict in your city just by pass it, any good wielder can do it.
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25th November 2010, 23:29	#10
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,215 Thanked: 15,907 Times	It comes as a single unit at dealers, the exhaust unit, hence the price. Small holes can be welded but will not last long in a ford, that metal is so thin that welding itself is a big exercise. Try after market bits after the cat con, should come in 6-7k max. Suspension go with genuine stuff either OE or from manufacturer like gabriel. But 2.5 is not a big price to pay for a shockie.
	() Thanks

6th June 2011, 17:07	#13
xbox360 BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 251 Thanked: 89 Times View My Garage	Re: Age induced issues with ikon, need help. Guys another question (this is regarding mileage):- Now a days this vehicle is being used for an avg of 8 kms/day and the drive varies from of 4 to 30Km runs . I have been tracking the fuel efficiency, and in the last few runs the mileage has been ~8kms/litre. The service center people simply cleaned the air filter when i called this out in the last service. Question -- Whatever be the usage, should it be this low? If not, how to go about debugging this?
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