Coil Spring Adjusters : VFM Fix for the Honda Civic's (lousy) soft rear suspension?

sgiitk · 18th September 2013, 09:06

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Originally Posted by RHCP

My Question: Do i get these installed only for rears or front as well??

Do not fix something which is not broken!

RHCP · 18th September 2013, 12:38

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Originally Posted by sgiitk

Do not fix something which is not broken!

Hi,
Nothing seems to be broken or damaged.its just the car has lost its ground clearance at rear due to additional weight of cng tank.

sgiitk · 18th September 2013, 16:18

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Originally Posted by RHCP

Hi,
Nothing seems to be broken or damaged.its just the car has lost its ground clearance at rear due to additional weight of cng tank.

This what I meant, If the front is Ok then leave it as such!

Mr.Boss · 18th September 2013, 16:43

Not sure if this is OT (if so, please excuse)
Isn't adding something between the coils induce excessive stress on the adjacent coils when the springs compress? Also this excessive stress should affect the durability (leave aside the ride & comfort) right? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

I'm not against fixing the coil spring spacers, just wanted to confirm if the adverse effects were taken into account before deciding this mod job.

thanks in advance

sgiitk · 19th September 2013, 09:36

@Mr.Boss; The spacers are quite soft and only come into play if the compression of the coil is extreme, so do not put any significant extra stress.

RHCP · 22nd September 2013, 23:12

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Originally Posted by sgiitk

This what I meant, If the front is Ok then leave it as such!

Got the Autorunners B-3 installed from Automech (for for the rear shocks). The GC has increased by 1 inch or so.would update regarding the effectiveness in couple of days.

Mr.Boss · 23rd September 2013, 16:51

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Originally Posted by RHCP

Got the Autorunners B-3 installed from Automech (for for the rear shocks). The GC has increased by 1 inch or so.would update regarding the effectiveness in couple of days.

1" GC increase at which condition? (Kerb weight condition or with load?)
Can you please share the snap at which location it is fixed (between x & x+1 coil)

sgiitk · 23rd September 2013, 21:48

@RHCP; It will settle down and the height increase should not exceed 1/2".

kishgator · 1st October 2013, 15:36

I picked up a pair of "Superior Donut coil spring adjusters" during my last visit to the US in Jan 2013, I was lethargic to install for a few months. But the frequent scraping made up my mind and I got them installed (DIY) for the rear springs in May 2013.

They have been running fine for the last 4/5 months, now my heart doesnt pop out of my mouth everytime i see a speed breaker. Nor the occupants have to pity me after the scraping sound which i used to encounter earlier.

The GC hasnt really increased, but I think the adjuster prevents bottoming out on a full load and also prevents sudden full compression of the spring over a speed breaker. Have done all kinds of roads, loads and speeds since then, i dont find any difference in handling, braking etc.

Thanks GTO and others for providing this information

amit162 · 6th October 2013, 13:25

Can these help in case of the Jazz aswell ? I would be grateful for the advice. Thanks.

sgiitk · 7th October 2013, 08:57

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Originally Posted by amit162

Can these help in case of the Jazz aswell ? I would be grateful for the advice. Thanks.

As I have stated multiple times it should help on any car with coil springs.

sgiitk · 16th October 2013, 09:58

Just did a road trip to Gurgaon. Following Google Maps I exited from the Yamnua E'way at Aligarh and took SH22A to Palwal. Even a tractor may be troubled on this. So much for Haryana roads. No bottoming even once (rear donuts). Then I entered Gurgaon. Here the roads are dug up for the Express Metro (DLF!). I had relaxed and did manage to bottom the front twice.I am now thinking of adding donuts up front.

sudeep.pandya · 19th October 2013, 12:23

Dear All,

A quick update on my end. Got the spacers front and back (Now removed) installed in my 2009 Hyundai Verna CRDI

My observations -

- There was a significant amount of GC gain after the installation as the front overhang was not scrapping while approaching a ramp in my office parking. However, the spacers take time to settle and suspension behavior improves post 500 kms run.
- Spacers act best when fully loaded, The suspension behaves mature and absorbs the regular undulations better (again only when fully loaded).
- Straight line stability was improved (Loaded or not loaded)
- Cornering was horrible, as the higher GC resulted in excessive body roll.
- Not so stable when driven alone.
- Suspension acts stiff in comparison with stock.

The reason I removed them were -

- I started missing the plush ride quality of my car.
- The overall dynamics of the car were not so confidence inspiring.
- I usually drive alone and as mentioned earlier, the car has to be fully loaded the reap the benefits of spacers.

ecosport rules · 22nd October 2013, 12:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by amit162

Can these help in case of the Jazz aswell ? I would be grateful for the advice. Thanks.

They would help a y car, just get the right size.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sgiitk

Just did a road trip to Gurgaon. Following Google Maps I exited from the Yamnua E'way at Aligarh and took SH22A to Palwal. Even a tractor may be troubled on this. So much for Haryana roads. No bottoming even once (rear donuts). Then I entered Gurgaon. Here the roads are dug up for the Express Metro (DLF!). I had relaxed and did manage to bottom the front twice.I am now thinking of adding donuts up front.

Please share the contact information of the seller sir.

sgiitk · 22nd October 2013, 13:54

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Originally Posted by ecosport rules

Please share the contact information of the seller sir.

I got them from Darryl in Mumbai. I think his contact info is floating around aplenty on this thread.

18th September 2013, 16:43	#424
Mr.Boss Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: GPS signal lost Posts: 2,847 Thanked: 7,586 Times View My Garage	Re: Coil Spring Adjusters : VFM Fix for the Honda Civic's (lousy) soft rear suspensio Not sure if this is OT (if so, please excuse) Isn't adding something between the coils induce excessive stress on the adjacent coils when the springs compress? Also this excessive stress should affect the durability (leave aside the ride & comfort) right? Please correct me if I'm wrong. I'm not against fixing the coil spring spacers, just wanted to confirm if the adverse effects were taken into account before deciding this mod job. thanks in advance
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19th September 2013, 09:36	#425
sgiitk Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gurugram Posts: 7,971 Thanked: 4,809 Times	Re: Coil Spring Adjusters : VFM Fix for the Honda Civic's (lousy) soft rear suspensio @Mr.Boss; The spacers are quite soft and only come into play if the compression of the coil is extreme, so do not put any significant extra stress.
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23rd September 2013, 21:48	#428
sgiitk Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gurugram Posts: 7,971 Thanked: 4,809 Times	Re: Coil Spring Adjusters : VFM Fix for the Honda Civic's (lousy) soft rear suspensio @RHCP; It will settle down and the height increase should not exceed 1/2".
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1st October 2013, 15:36	#429
kishgator Newbie Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Bangalore Posts: 22 Thanked: 70 Times	Re: Coil Spring Adjusters : VFM Fix for the Honda Civic's (lousy) soft rear suspensio I picked up a pair of "Superior Donut coil spring adjusters" during my last visit to the US in Jan 2013, I was lethargic to install for a few months. But the frequent scraping made up my mind and I got them installed (DIY) for the rear springs in May 2013. They have been running fine for the last 4/5 months, now my heart doesnt pop out of my mouth everytime i see a speed breaker. Nor the occupants have to pity me after the scraping sound which i used to encounter earlier. The GC hasnt really increased, but I think the adjuster prevents bottoming out on a full load and also prevents sudden full compression of the spring over a speed breaker. Have done all kinds of roads, loads and speeds since then, i dont find any difference in handling, braking etc. Thanks GTO and others for providing this information
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6th October 2013, 13:25	#430
amit162 BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Dehradun Posts: 83 Thanked: 55 Times	Can these help in case of the Jazz aswell ? I would be grateful for the advice. Thanks.
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16th October 2013, 09:58	#432
sgiitk Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gurugram Posts: 7,971 Thanked: 4,809 Times	Re: Coil Spring Adjusters : VFM Fix for the Honda Civic's (lousy) soft rear suspensio Just did a road trip to Gurgaon. Following Google Maps I exited from the Yamnua E'way at Aligarh and took SH22A to Palwal. Even a tractor may be troubled on this. So much for Haryana roads. No bottoming even once (rear donuts). Then I entered Gurgaon. Here the roads are dug up for the Express Metro (DLF!). I had relaxed and did manage to bottom the front twice.I am now thinking of adding donuts up front.
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19th October 2013, 12:23	#433
sudeep.pandya BHPian Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Chhindwara(M.P) Posts: 253 Thanked: 556 Times	Re: Coil Spring Adjusters : VFM Fix for the Honda Civic's (lousy) soft rear suspensio Dear All, A quick update on my end. Got the spacers front and back (Now removed) installed in my 2009 Hyundai Verna CRDI My observations - - There was a significant amount of GC gain after the installation as the front overhang was not scrapping while approaching a ramp in my office parking. However, the spacers take time to settle and suspension behavior improves post 500 kms run. - Spacers act best when fully loaded, The suspension behaves mature and absorbs the regular undulations better (again only when fully loaded). - Straight line stability was improved (Loaded or not loaded) - Cornering was horrible, as the higher GC resulted in excessive body roll. - Not so stable when driven alone. - Suspension acts stiff in comparison with stock. The reason I removed them were - - I started missing the plush ride quality of my car. - The overall dynamics of the car were not so confidence inspiring. - I usually drive alone and as mentioned earlier, the car has to be fully loaded the reap the benefits of spacers.
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