[Diesel lover]

Originally Posted by motomaverick

Congrats Diesellover. More than the Dzire I must appreciate the way the Isuzu has been maintained, from the pictures it looked spotless, plus that egg yolk yellow really looks nice.

The Fiesta AT though would have costed more, might have been a good option to check, but none-the-less have a really time with the Dzire.

Thank you for the appreciation motomaverick. Nothing beats the Isuzu.

I myself own a 1.4L Figo, but didn't go for another Ford because of the following reasons:

1. New Fiesta doesn't sell much. Dzire sells nearly 300 times more (Feb '13 Team-BHP sales report). You might say it is due to the pricing, but had Ford set the pricing of new Fiesta right, it would have sold in decent numbers. Figo had set an example but now it's the pricing and reduced features that's killing the Figo.

2. It is approx 3.7 L more costly (on road) than Dzire AT. Paying that much for a Ford's petrol car was not to my liking, I would have got Verna petrol AT at a cheaper price with loads of features that the Fiesta didn't had. Nothing beats the Verna in terms of looks and style.

3. Personally I didn't like the looks of the new Fiesta. Classic is much better looking and is better priced as well.

4. Availability / pricing of spares would have been an issue as the car which sells less has spares which are costly because they are made in less quantity. Procurement would have been an issue in case of an emergency.

5. Ford is not known for it's petrol motors (except the 1.6 that was found in the old Fiesta)

6. Everybody here would think that more gears the car has, more fuel efficient it becomes as the car drives at a much lower rpm at high speeds. Even I was a staunch believer of this. But this myth was broken by the 1.2 L K series gem yesterday when I went on highway drive. The VVT motor performed exceptionally well with the 4 speed auto box. Let the picture do the talking:

[Guna]

Originally Posted by Diesel lover

6.[/b] Everybody here would think that more gears the car has, more fuel efficient it becomes as the car drives at a much lower rpm at high speeds. Even I was a staunch believer of this. But this myth was broken by the 1.2 L K series gem yesterday when I went on highway drive. The VVT motor performed exceptionally well with the 4 speed auto box. Let the picture do the talking:

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The average FE displayed is for this particular trip right? What was the trip meter reading when you took the snap?
My Honda city once recorded 40+ kmpl for a distance of 10-15 kms (I was driving through a down slope)

[Diesel lover]

Originally Posted by Guna

The average FE displayed is for this particular trip right? What was the trip meter reading when you took the snap?
My Honda city once recorded 40+ kmpl for a distance of 10-15 kms (I was driving through a down slope)

I started from home with avg showing as 14.3 kmpl, touched highway after 5 kms city drive. Drove 15 odd kms on the highway and then back 5 kms city driving. All this without A/C with windows rolled down and max speed at 75 kmph on the highway. The highway drive had 8 flyovers in total.

[Diesel lover]

Got the 3rd free service (within 1st year of purchase) done yesterday at 3470 Kms.

Total bill came out to be INR 1042.

Breakup is as follows:

Gasket - INR 3.50
Oil Filter - INR 79
Engine Oil 2.9 Lts - INR 830
Screen Wash Concentrate - INR 13.33
VAT - INR 117

[Rohitj92]

Originally Posted by Diesel lover

6.[/b] Everybody here would think that more gears the car has, more fuel efficient it becomes as the car drives at a much lower rpm at high speeds. Even I was a staunch believer of this. But this myth was broken by the 1.2 L K series gem yesterday when I went on highway drive. The VVT motor performed exceptionally well with the 4 speed auto box. Let the picture do the talking:

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Now that is some seriously tempting mileage figure ! My MID has never shown the figure above 14.0

I agree with u that the new Fiesta is not really a treat to the eyes, the Classic really looks much better. Also no other sedan would be more VFM than the dzire. The dzire is also the best seller for the month of May 2013

[Rahul Rao]

Some of the newer torque converter vehicles have a lock up clutch in the torque converter. Once you exceed a particular speed, and the converter slip is below 10% the clutch locks up. Initially there used to be lock up only in highest gear, but some vehicles with large number of closed ratio gears have lock up in all gears except first two.
The swift dZire AT may be of the former type. If so during highway cruising with a light foot the converter will be locked up, and will not create any power or efficiency loss.
To confirm existence of a lock up clutch is simple, while cruising with light throttle at moderate speed your RPM and speed will be proportional ie if 60 is 1500 RPM 80 will be 2000 RPM. Taking your foot of the throttle may dis engage the lock, so RPM may drop while coasting.
Please check and let us know weather your cars transmission has a lock up clutch.

Rahul

[Diesel lover]

A few days back the car went on her first highway drive in nearly one and a half years of ownership.

It was a round trip which started at 8 in the morning and ended at 7 in the evening covering 330 kms.

Mileage returned was 16.7 kmpl, without AC, on roads sans dividers (for 90% of the distance covered) which meant constant gear changes (managed automatically by the system) as slowing down and revving up again was an absolute necessity to overtake slow traffic in our lane and saving ourselves from oncoming traffic (which most of the time was in our lane!).

The trip also had it shares of traffic jams at 2 places which meant zero movement for 10 mins each.

I believe the car returned a decent mileage and is capable of returning more on long stretches of open wide roads with less traffic.

[mandywanders]

Hi Diesel Lover. Yours seems to be the only Dzire Automatic's review on team bhp. I am currently in the market for an automatic hatch/cs. Could you share how your long term experience has been with the Dzire Automatic.

[Diesel lover]

Originally Posted by mandywanders

Hi Diesel Lover. Yours seems to be the only Dzire Automatic's review on team bhp. I am currently in the market for an automatic hatch/cs. Could you share how your long term experience has been with the Dzire Automatic.

Dzire has been mostly driven by my father. Till date it has done 11300 Kms (3 years & 2 months) and has been a fuss free drive with servicing done yearly (as it is a low running vehicle).

The fuel average has been

1. 8.4 kmpl in city with 100% A.C.
2. 10 kmpl in city with a mix of A.C. and non A.C. drive
3. 11.5 kmpl in city in winters without A.C.
4. 15.1 kmpl on a two lane highway with no divider and with 70% A.C.
5. 15.7 kmpl on a two lane highway with no divider without A.C.
6. 19.1 kmpl on an 8 lane highway (4 lanes on each side of the divider) with speed in range of 70 to 80 kmph and without A.C.

The 4 speed torque converter offers a seamless ride with oodles of torque from start (which petrol engines lack) coupled with a butter smooth engine.

[mandywanders]

Thanks for the update diesel lover. Had been looking for an AT for long but despite numerous calls no maruti dealers seemed to be interested. No test drive vehicles available either
Finally ended up booking the New Jazz just last week . Thanks again for the detailed reply.

[Diesel lover]

Originally Posted by mandywanders

Thanks for the update diesel lover. Had been looking for an AT for long but despite numerous calls no maruti dealers seemed to be interested. No test drive vehicles available either
Finally ended up booking the New Jazz just last week . Thanks again for the detailed reply.

Congratulations on booking the Honda Jazz. No one can beat Japanese technology. Even our first car (ISUZU, a Japanese brand with stock / untouched engine) was with us for almost 30 years before we sold it off.

[tanwaramit]

Dzire AT is a good choice, with better interiors than Amaze and at decent price point is good value for money car.

I am quite interested to know the hand controls for clutch in the isuzu, can you share more info on the same? I must say, the car exteriors don't tell its age. Very well maintained.