[Vid6639]

Guy's the engine does not go to 8000rpm. Only the tacho is marked to 8000!! It's the same in Figo. Both petrol and diesel have the same instrument cluster with no redline marking in either.

The OP was just trying to say that needle is marked to 9000rpm and engine revs to 5,500rpm. That said 5500rpm is still pretty high. Maybe they have set it higher in the Vista 90.

[chetanthaker]

Originally Posted by Biraj

Thank you for sharing the review! Blame our curiosity for information, the review could have been a bit more detailed for a 2/3 day test. Can you please elaborate on the ride and handling a bit more, especially on different types of roads?

8000 RPM for a diesel seems very high. Not sure if Punto 90 HP manages to reach such RPMs. I am surprised that Tata didn't decide to copy the tyre size of Punto 90 HP. It might have given it better stance.

I did have the car only for 3 days and hence my review could have been very limited. Drove this over a potholed flyover at Chembur (Mumbai) and the car did not wobble as badly my Swift. The suspension did seem to gobble up most of the smaller potholes. Larger potholes on high speed gave a feeble 'thump' rather than a spine-shattering 'thud' on my old Swift.

Did I write that wrong? I meant to say that the engine could have gone up to 8000 rpm (given the markings), but I did manage to do 5500 rpm. Even I am in agreement with you that a diesel engine can not (rather should not be able to) do 8k rpm

Originally Posted by kaviprem

Good way to start the review. But, I dont agree the list of niggles you have pointed out. Not that I know about this Vista edition. But, everything that you listed under "niggles" seem to be the way it is designed. Probably, a feedback for TML designers/technicians rather than niggles.

I am sure, we will have more thoughts coming in, lets wait and watch.

Well tried
Prem.

Thanks Prem! Much appreciated!
The 'niggles' section was basically the issues that I personally found with the car. Design faults or otherwise, there were some really basic errors and anyone would run into these issues one day or the other

Originally Posted by Sommos

Thanks for sharing your views with us, but I was expecting a more detailed one, bit disappointed. I could not find anything about the suspension & brakes and ride comfort & handling of the car.

The only thing that you loved about the car was the engine and this is the Fiat 1.3 MJD, if I am not wrong.

Would like to hear more about ride comfort - handling - suspension.

Originally Posted by bblost

Thanks a lot for your review.

Fogs are meant for lighting up the road. They are not supplementary headlights.

Sorry to disappoint :(
Had the car for 3 days and this is all I could do

Suspension was much better than my Swift and it did glide over potholes. The ride was not wobbly on high speeds like the i20s. However, turning on high speeds - definitely not confidence booster that the car will stay on it's course. Tyres are what should have been upgraded at least.

Originally Posted by directinjection

Thanks for the review Chetan!

I find it curious that the head unit in your car looks like the regular Vista head unit. D90 comes with a touch screen operated head unit whose screen is much larger and which does not have the plastic buttons.

I'm sorry - Haven't driven a Tata car in 10 years before driving this one
AFAIK, the touchscreen head unit is available on the DX+ and I had the DX. Maybe that is the reason why you see the 'old' head unit

Originally Posted by Sankar

Probably because its a company test car, the rev limiter might be lifted for whatever purpose.

I doubt it. I could be wrong, but IMO, you lift the rev limiter on a test car and there is a much bigger chance of an engine blowout, which could be worse for the brand that it died on a TD.

[safari_lover]

Originally Posted by directinjection

Thanks for the review Chetan!

I find it curious that the head unit in your car looks like the regular Vista head unit. D90 comes with a touch screen operated head unit whose screen is much larger and which does not have the plastic buttons.

That's because the variant he drove is ZX. The touchscreen is for the variant ZX+. I read somewhere on the forum that D90 comes in VX, ZX and ZX+ variants.

[swiftnfurious]

Originally Posted by safari_lover

That's because the variant he drove is ZX. The touchscreen is for the variant ZX+. I read somewhere on the forum that D90 comes in VX, ZX and ZX+ variants.

There is ONLY VX & ZX+ in D90. No ZX.

[directinjection]

It's sad you need to buy the ZX+ variant to become eligible for a LED stop lamp on your tailgate. All other versions come with a bulb type stop lamp.

The problem with bulb-type stop lamp is that the incandescent bulb doesn't light up instantly so there's always a little time gap between the pressing of the brake pedal and the lighting of the stop lamp. LED or neon based stop lights help considerably in overcoming this problem since they light up instantly.

Till a few years back, even the most basic model of Indica (pre-Vista) came fitted with a LED stop lamp. And then some bean counter at TM ordered this cost cutting measure, ignoring road safety. Really sad!

[KL54]

Originally Posted by directinjection

It's sad you need to buy the ZX+ variant to become eligible for a LED stop lamp on your tailgate. All other versions come with a bulb type stop lamp.

Strange! Even my 2009 Qjd Vista has a LED stop lamp. When did they do the disappearing act?!

+1 to the OP's assertion that the right ORVM has a blindspot. If anything, it can easily swallow a lorry in the blindspot. The only remedy possible is : swing the ORVM a little forward and voila! blindspot gone! Of course if you fall into a pothole, the ORVM snaps back into its default position! So having got tired of readjusting the ORVM again and again, what I do is simply turn my neck and see if there is anything in that blindspot...

[safari_lover]

Originally Posted by swiftnfurious

There is ONLY VX & ZX+ in D90. No ZX.

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May be it was one of the variant planned then? Similar to the Lxa, Vxp variants of Storme, that never made it.

[directinjection]

Originally Posted by swiftnfurious

There is ONLY VX & ZX+ in D90. No ZX.

Originally Posted by safari_lover

May be it was one of the variant planned then? Similar to the Lxa, Vxp variants of Storme, that never made it.

But the tailgate photo in this thread shows ZX sticker. It is not the ZX+ model considering it doesn't have a touchscreen head unit. So there ought to be a ZX as well unless the car given to Chetan was a model never finally launched.

Originally Posted by KL54

Strange! Even my 2009 Qjd Vista has a LED stop lamp. When did they do the disappearing act?!

The same time they decided not to give parcel tray in LS version! Yours must be the Aura version. The lower variants came with bulb type stop lamp.

Originally Posted by KL54

+1 to the OP's assertion that the right ORVM has a blindspot. If anything, it can easily swallow a lorry in the blindspot. The only remedy possible is : swing the ORVM a little forward and voila! blindspot gone! Of course if you fall into a pothole, the ORVM snaps back into its default position! So having got tired of readjusting the ORVM again and again, what I do is simply turn my neck and see if there is anything in that blindspot...

Hope some one in ERC reads this.

[jessie007]

Originally Posted by KL54

Strange! Even my 2009 Qjd Vista has a LED stop lamp. When did they do the disappearing act?!

A bit off-topic - But even my 2006 Indigo LS had a LED HMSL (High Mounted Stop Lamp) at a time when most Maruti's and Hyundai's had bulb type.

@chetanthaker: What is the mystery regarding ZX & ZX+ variant? Are ZX & ZX+ two different variants, contrary to what the brochure says? I checked an image on the internet and there is a prominent gap between ZX & 90 to accommodate the plus (+) sign:

[chetanthaker]

Originally Posted by jessie007

A bit off-topic - But even my 2006 Indigo LS had a LED HMSL (High Mounted Stop Lamp) at a time when most Maruti's and Hyundai's had bulb type.

@chetanthaker: What is the mystery regarding ZX & ZX+ variant? Are ZX & ZX+ two different variants, contrary to what the brochure says? I checked an image on the internet and there is a prominent gap between ZX & 90 to accommodate the plus (+) sign:

The ZX and 90 badges are too close to accommodate the '+' - Good work, Sherlock!

What surprises me is that even the brochures scan that was uploaded on this thread does not even mention the ZX.
It would be a nasty surprise if TATA asks for more money for the ZX+ version considering the ZX is not even available to the masses.

[StrangeWizard]

The D90 ad on tv shows different more sporty bumpers and a spoiler too.
Is that really going to come on the cars or was it just for the ad?

[greenhorn]

thats an OE add on body kit available as a dealer fitment

[amartya sinha]

visited a TATA dealer, even their cost sheet does not indicate a Zx variant, Vx variant OTR (Delhi) is 6,64,846/- and Zx+ is 7,84,904/- (Both are just initial printed quote).