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Old 29th October 2022, 18:40   #1216
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Re: My first car: 2020 Maruti Suzuki XL6 Alpha MT Review

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Quick Update: The XL6 completes a 4,654 km drive, over the last 15 days. It includes exploring Rajasthan, to a medical trip for mom when stationed at Lucknow.
Really missed the opportunity of meeting you, we both were in Lucknow at the same time, messages exchanged but both had important commitments to attend to, perhaps next time.

EDIT: Just noticed out WhatsApp Chats, when you were at the Clinic and texting me I was barely 1.5 KMs away from you. Infact, The clinic itself is a 10-12 min drive from my place. Now I am really sad! :(

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Old 29th October 2022, 20:59   #1217
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Does this engine in ertiga come with EGR? Every MASS shows a periodical service chart which states that EGR cleaning for diesel engines are included in the service costs for 30k ,60k and 90k periodical maintenance service . Yet they say EGR is to be dismantled and cleaned at around 1 lakh. I wonder how they clean the EGR of 1.3 ddis engines since it's situated behind the engine. Any idea as to ascertain whether they clean it as promised during the respective kilometer intervals of 30k 60k and 90k?

Regarding the EGR cleaning, could you please explain as to how the service center guys must be doing the EGR cleaning job? They are very reluctant to carry out that job under PMS charges and they say it takes time to access the EGR located behind the engine and it would be time consuming and that they don't actually remove and clean it, rather they just spray some solution into the EGR valve to remove the deposits. Could you please enlighten me on this as to what exactly they are required to do for EGR cleaning? The periodical service chart displayed at every MASS says that PMS charges for 30k 60k and 90k includes EGR cleaning charges as well. Are they really cleaning the EGR at those respective intervals? And when is the EGR of 1.3 ddis engine required to be dismantled and cleaned?

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Regarding the EGR cleaning, could you please explain as to how the service center guys must be doing the EGR cleaning job? They are very reluctant to carry out that job under PMS charges and they say it takes time to access the EGR located behind the engine and it would be time consuming and that they don't actually remove and clean it, rather they just spray some solution into the EGR valve to remove the deposits. Could you please enlighten me on this as to what exactly they are required to do for EGR cleaning? The periodical service chart displayed at every MASS says that PMS charges for 30k 60k and 90k includes EGR cleaning charges as well. Are they really cleaning the EGR at those respective intervals? And when is the EGR of 1.3 ddis engine required to be dismantled and cleaned?

Hello babukvishnu,

This is just my idea of cleaning an EGR. It should be ideally done every 50K Kms. As the car gets older you can even look at cleaning it every 40K Kms. This is how I do in my car. I get this removed and take it back to home soak it in diesel overnight then remove the deposits and take it back to the service centre. This is something I do without taking any chance. Well our car is almost 15 years old diesel so I just do this at a personal level.

Also I believe 1.3 ddis engine also comes with an intercooler to dissepate the heat. Again this is something I do with my 15 year old car. I soak this overnight in diesel and clean it the next day. Usually I clean this every 20K KMS which has been going well till date.

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Quick Update: The XL6 completes a 4,654 km drive, over the last 15 days. It includes exploring Rajasthan, to a medical trip for mom when stationed at Lucknow. Some pics of the XL6 from the drive:
Wow! I am sure this has been a great experience. XL6 in particular is a car filled with awesomeness. I own an Ertiga Petrol. Planning an upgrade to XL6. What can go wrong with Maruti Suzuki right? Keep munching miles!

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Old 30th October 2022, 13:33   #1219
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Re: My first car: 2020 Maruti Suzuki XL6 Alpha MT Review

Hi Shashi,

Can I get the part number of the Parts Catalogue of new 2022 Ertiga facelift with the K15C dualjet engine?

I got the part number of the older K15B Ertiga's catalogue from this thread, but I am specifically looking for the part No of the K15C version.

I had posted this same query in the Maruti Genuine Parts thread about 2 months ago, but I think you missed that post.So posting this here again.

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Update: Since the car was extremely dirty after the trip, got it cleaned inside out at a nearby center. Also, the underbody had acquired some chips, so took this opportunity to re-do the entire underbody including silencer. Opted for Liqui Moly Stone Guard which happens to be my old favorite. For silencer coating, went with Turtle Wax and was pleasantly surprised by the glossy finish it gave, far superior than any silencer coating I have used till date.

Underbody to be cleaned thoroughly with APC and brushes:

My first car: 2020 Maruti Suzuki XL6 Alpha MT Review-20221029_080724.jpg

Top body masked to avoid oversprays:

My first car: 2020 Maruti Suzuki XL6 Alpha MT Review-20221030_073701.jpg

Products used:

My first car: 2020 Maruti Suzuki XL6 Alpha MT Review-20221030_073303.jpg

Finish:

My first car: 2020 Maruti Suzuki XL6 Alpha MT Review-20221030_082434.jpg

Later today, also detailed the engine bay, before:

My first car: 2020 Maruti Suzuki XL6 Alpha MT Review-20221028_181829.jpg

After:

My first car: 2020 Maruti Suzuki XL6 Alpha MT Review-20221029_162513.jpg

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Hi Shashi,

Can I get the part number of the Parts Catalogue of new 2022 Ertiga facelift with the K15C dualjet engine?
PN remains the same for one model range, irrespective of facelifts. Depends on your luck which edition comes upon ordering.

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Old 31st October 2022, 15:12   #1221
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Re: My first car: 2020 Maruti Suzuki XL6 Alpha MT Review

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Yes everything can be done on Ertiga as well.
Regarding the engine cover, does it fit Ertiga 1.5L Diesel? Do the oil filter removal holes and drain holes match?

And regarding the suspension are there any differences as the diesel engine is heavier and hence a different shock is used in the front end?
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Regarding the engine cover, does it fit Ertiga 1.5L Diesel? Do the oil filter removal holes and drain holes match?
Fitment remains same but for my opinion on alignment with filter and drain holes, will need a pic of your underbody first.

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And regarding the suspension are there any differences as the diesel engine is heavier and hence a different shock is used in the front end?
Yes suspension of diesel Ertiga is different.
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Re: My first car: 2020 Maruti Suzuki XL6 Alpha MT Review

PMS 30 Done: Got the 30k service done, albeit at 31.5k km due to the Jaisalmer trip. Nothing special, just the usual stuff of Engine Oil change, Air and Cabin filters cleaning, brakes cleaning and wheel rotation. Excellent experience at M/s Hilltop Motors, specially due to SA Mr. Nazir.

My first car: 2020 Maruti Suzuki XL6 Alpha MT Review-20221031_165703.jpg

Cost:

My first car: 2020 Maruti Suzuki XL6 Alpha MT Review-img20221031wa0030.jpg

Also since I had hit a pothole quite hard during the trip, and the steering was feeling a bit weird, got the alignment fixed at my preferred store and the LH side indeed had taken quite a hit.

Before:

My first car: 2020 Maruti Suzuki XL6 Alpha MT Review-20221101_105531.jpg

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My first car: 2020 Maruti Suzuki XL6 Alpha MT Review-20221101_105800.jpg

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Old 9th November 2022, 13:16   #1224
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Re: My first car: 2020 Maruti Suzuki XL6 Alpha MT Review

Greetings Leoshashi,

I am having trouble deciding which car to buy. Please help me.

1) 2022 XL6 ALPHA PLUS (~16L on road)

Or

2) Kia Carens Prestige Diesel (~16L on road)

Both Manual Variants.

Given a choice which car from the above would you prefer and why? (Yearly running of around 12,000 kms-70% highway-30% city usage)

Or do you suggest increasing budget and going for Prestige Plus Diesel model (~18L on road)??

Thank you so much in advance.

Sorry if this is not the place to ask such queries. Newbie here. Was a lurker for years.
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Re: My first car: 2020 Maruti Suzuki XL6 Alpha MT Review

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Some more pics for you:

A quick word on Ride quality: It has indeed degraded, I could feel a lot more surface undulations and the potholes feel sharper(somewhat like 2015 Balenos on 16 inch rims, before suspension recall). For a people mover, it's surely not desirable to switch to 16s and retain stock suspension.

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Hey Shashi. I can't thank you enough to share you knowledge via this thread. I have booked an XL6 AT and your thread has helped me list down the mods even though i am yet to get the car

Do you think these 16 inchers can take 205 60R16 tyre? I am planning to swap the oem wanderer street on day1.
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Greetings Leoshashi,

I am having trouble deciding which car to buy. Please help me.

1) 2022 XL6 ALPHA PLUS (~16L on road)

Or

2) Kia Carens Prestige Diesel (~16L on road)

Both Manual Variants.

Given a choice which car from the above would you prefer and why? (Yearly running of around 12,000 kms-70% highway-30% city usage)

Or do you suggest increasing budget and going for Prestige Plus Diesel model (~18L on road)??

Thank you so much in advance.

Sorry if this is not the place to ask such queries. Newbie here. Was a lurker for years.
Given your running will be mostly on the highways, and given how lackluster performance of new XL6 is on highway speeds, I'd recommend the Kia or stretching to Innova if possible. Cars aren't bought everyday and if possible, one should always opt for the best possible option. Also, XL6 has become too pricey IMHO, and when compared against the Kia, a lot of things don't come in XL6's favour like interior fit and finish, ride quality etc.

Still, don't go purely by my opinion, take a TD and you may end up liking the XL6.

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Do you think these 16 inchers can take 205 60R16 tyre? I am planning to swap the oem wanderer street on day1.
Yes the 16 inch alloys can easily take 205's.

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Update: Installed Spoiler myself: Ever since the 2022 XL6 came out, the spoiler was growing on me. Being available from MGP also solved the child part issue, where some people lost their caps and it was not available separately.

The only issue now was that I was not happy with the way showroom guys were installing it. Given the huge number of cars they do, they don't follow SOP and merely hammer/screw in a screw into the thin sheet metal. An example of how spoiler is typically installed:



Decided to explore the possibility of DIY. After all the only thing risky was drilling holes post proper measurement. Visited nearby showroom and procured the instruction manual which comes with every spoiler, but no one reads it. Sharing the manual here:

My first car: 2020 Maruti Suzuki XL6 Alpha MT Review-img20210702wa0003.jpg

My first car: 2020 Maruti Suzuki XL6 Alpha MT Review-img20210702wa0001.jpg

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My first car: 2020 Maruti Suzuki XL6 Alpha MT Review-img20210702wa0000.jpg


The only changes from steps mentioned in manual were that the number of holes needed are two and not 7 as mentioned. Also I didn't rely solely on presented template. Took measurements by actually positioning the spoiler. Ordered the MGA spoiler pre-painted in Magma Grey from Boodmo during their free delivery sale. PN: 990J0M72R07-150

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1. Marked the hole positions. Made 11mm drill and installed jack nut provided in that hole. The hole was deburred and also painted to prevent any future rusting before installing the jack nut. The sheet metal here is deliberately made super thin to facilitate easy spoiler installation. In one of the pics, you can spot the area of hole got a small dent, it's actually desirable since the jacknut then sits absolutely flush.

2. Clean the remaining area, and apply 3M's adhesion promoter along areas which will mate with double sided tapes provided on spoiler. PN: 990J0M999H7-010

3. After this, careful placement is needed and you are done.

4. I also applied molten plastic from Stanley glue gun over and around the bolts, so that there is no chance of water seeping inside.

Some pics:

Jack nut:

My first car: 2020 Maruti Suzuki XL6 Alpha MT Review-20221121_185121.jpg

Molten plastic from Glue gun:

My first car: 2020 Maruti Suzuki XL6 Alpha MT Review-20221123_131241.jpg

Pics of the car:

My first car: 2020 Maruti Suzuki XL6 Alpha MT Review-20221121_200145.jpg

My first car: 2020 Maruti Suzuki XL6 Alpha MT Review-20221203_153502.jpg

My first car: 2020 Maruti Suzuki XL6 Alpha MT Review-20221203_153555.jpg

My first car: 2020 Maruti Suzuki XL6 Alpha MT Review-20221203_153635.jpg

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Update: Installed Spoiler myself
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Brilliant as always

K15B, those alloys and this rear which is better than the clear/smoked looking rear of the latest gen which, to me, looks a bit aftermarket.
In my books, this makes the XL the best XL6 package in the country.


PS :
What we really miss in our automotive landscape is folks who can do such a meticulous and proper job like you do. Everytime I visit some ASC/detailer/"expert" I am never happy with their process or their end result, precisely because folks like you show how it's properly done.
Thanks, respect and kudos

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My first car: 2020 Maruti Suzuki XL6 Alpha MT Review-20221106_121419.jpg

DIY Upgrade- Adding Variable Speed Intermittent Wiper function on my XL6: Ever since the Grand Vitara/2022 Brezza came out, I noticed the stalk which matched the shape/profile of the stalks I have on my XL6. Curiously, checked their PIN diagrams and it was identical. Placed an order with MASS locally around July but the part hasn't arrived till now. Thankfully, the stalk came in stock on Boodmo and I ordered it immediately.

PN: 37310M68P21
Link: Link to stalk

My first car: 2020 Maruti Suzuki XL6 Alpha MT Review-20221106_121302.jpg

Installation was a simple affair.

1. Remove one screw and pull the lower part of dashboard trim, comes out cleanly.

My first car: 2020 Maruti Suzuki XL6 Alpha MT Review-20221106_174137.jpg

2. There will be one screw holding the lower part of steering column cover, unscrew it and remove the lower part.

My first car: 2020 Maruti Suzuki XL6 Alpha MT Review-20221106_174333.jpg

3. Turn the steering wheel to left and right and unscrew the two screws visible and remove the top part of the column cover.

My first car: 2020 Maruti Suzuki XL6 Alpha MT Review-20221106_174432.jpg

My first car: 2020 Maruti Suzuki XL6 Alpha MT Review-20221106_174549.jpg

4. Undo the tab to release the stalk and also the coupler.

My first car: 2020 Maruti Suzuki XL6 Alpha MT Review-20221106_174620.jpg

My first car: 2020 Maruti Suzuki XL6 Alpha MT Review-20221106_174647.jpg
5. Installation is simply a reverse process and you are done.

My first car: 2020 Maruti Suzuki XL6 Alpha MT Review-20221106_180826.jpg

Video of Variable speed INT wiper in action:



Cons: The only single demerit is that the new stalk has REAR INT function, but the wiring of XL6 or other models on Heartect doesn't support it. Anyways we didn't have this function earlier, so no harm done.

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Installation success in Baleno 2020 Zeta MT: Process was largely same, except the lower part of dash had two screws instead of 1 in my XL6

Video and pics of this mod working in Baleno:



My first car: 2020 Maruti Suzuki XL6 Alpha MT Review-img20221204wa0056.jpg

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Supported and Verified Models: All the models and variants listed here. Be sure to go through the list carefully, as this mod FAILED in a friend's XL6 Zeta MT. Notice the different shape of stalk end:

My first car: 2020 Maruti Suzuki XL6 Alpha MT Review-img20221201wa0021.jpg

Hence, request you all to go through the list mentioned above carefully before attempting this mod.

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Re: My first car: 2020 Maruti Suzuki XL6 Alpha MT Review

Hi Shashi,
Can you please share the details on IR+UV cut glass installation (part numbers+ cost),if possible. Also do you think this can be done on ertiga ?
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