Safari Vs Sumo Grande - A face off, how they stand...

druva · 9th March 2008, 10:15

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Originally Posted by druva

ACI is carrying a review report on Grande. Anybody seen this?
Planning to get one over the weekend.

ACI verdict is 7 out of 10. However the leafspring suspension and poor fitting of interiors is a big let down. They also mention about the poor ride quality.

Leg room and responsive engine is awesome.

I think will have to wait for V2.

jkdas · 11th March 2008, 20:01

some pix of Black Grande and Safari.

ram_hyundai · 11th March 2008, 20:16

The sumo grande front end looks better than the safari,maybe because safari has been arround for some time.JK why not a photo comparo of the interiors.Thats what we see when we are inside.
ram

dadu · 11th March 2008, 20:26

TATA never ever reveals it upcoming launches, leave alone the dates so everything is speculation, although a new safari is definitely due.

Cost and availability of spares, have you forgotten the new 2.2l engine which was made for safari is detuned and put in the Grande and will be the engine used by TATA going forward too. So no problem here too.

Definitely with new models the older ones fetch lesser resale value but thats the way of life, isnt it !!.

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Originally Posted by Murugan

One more reason to go for the Grande and not the Safari:

According to some members in this forum and Autocar India magazine the current Safari is likely to be replaced by an all new vehicle next year. Guess what will happen to the cost and availabilty of spare parts in the long run not to mention the resale value. Agreed, agreed, one does not buy a vehicle for its resale value but a cost conscious buyer has to factor this is into the purchase cost.

deuce-deuce · 12th March 2008, 16:03

The Sumo grande looks very good on the face of it,but the old chassis,albeit with a stretched wheelbase over the old sumo and a similar but slightly tweaked suspension just do not cut it in the market anymore.The sumo has been has been around since i was wearing chuddies.The grande really deserved an all new chassis.
Also,the price difference between the Sumo gx and the Safari ex is about one lakh in Hyderabad.They are absolutely identical in features.This is where I think Tata has lost the plot.I feel the price hike of close to 1.5 lakh(not counting discount,which by the way is a not insubstantial 25-30k) over the old sumo would've been justified if it was an all new car.
All my gripes notwithstanding,I would've still considered buying it if it was atleast a half lakh cheaper.

bblost · 12th March 2008, 16:19

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Originally Posted by deuce-deuce

I would've still considered buying it if it was atleast a half lakh cheaper.

Am just a litle curious.

Are you planing on buying something and have to leave the Grande out because its 50k too high, or is it just a generic sweeping statement.

shatrughna · 13th March 2008, 11:07

One of our TBHPian friends- 'Ramie' here is organising a test drive of Sumo Grande at or out of Navi Mumbai in a day or two ( most probably) and rest assured, we will have our own review as few more TBHPians are expected to join. Will keep you updated.

4x4addict · 14th March 2008, 18:50

I probably won't buy the Sumo Grande but it sure makes me look forward to the next version of the Safari !!!

sreejith_gce · 11th August 2010, 22:40

I was passing infront of Hyson Motors Thrissur and eyes got stuck with a Safari-Grande pair in mineral red. Couldn't help stopping and checking out...
I was greatly impressed with the size and overall shape of Grande - especially the front portion! How ever I felt the interiors bit under quality. Me and the sales guy had a nice discussion and comparison between Grande and Safari. According to him Safari's customers drop in just to buy Safari.. they normally dont bother about the other cars/models around. For many owning a Safari (still) is making a dream come true! (Despite of entry of many new players in SUV segment like Toyota, Honda, Nissan & GM). In 90's truly Safari was a status symbol and dream of many!
Well, how ever I was not much impressed by Safari's looks (especially the low front bonnet) ..my eyes were rather caressing the masculine beauty of Grande.

With the specs and equipment on board I felt its a good deal and value for money. More over , I live and work abroad and this would be an ideal car which me and my family can use when I come down during holidays. Tata's spare parts are easy to get and reasonably priced - which makes the job of maintenance much easy for my folks back home.

To sum up, I left the showroom quite largely impressed with the 'value for money' and 'SUV looks' part of Grande and the next day popped back in and booked the car!

I had an issue related to ECU (Electronic Control Unit) of Engine, how ever got replaced free of cost through extended warranty scheme. I dont really care about milage and stuff, but I think I am getting 9.5 - 10.5 KM/L with A/c on.

I garnished my Grande with some accessories and people say its a real head turner

sreejith_gce · 11th August 2010, 23:09

I was passing infront of Hyson Motors Thrissur and eyes got stuck with a Safari-Grande pair in mineral red. Couldn't help stopping and checking out...
I was greatly impressed with the size and overall shape of Grande - especially the front portion! How ever I felt the interiors bit under quality. Me and the sales guy had a nice discussion and comparison between Grande and Safari. According to him Safari's customers drop in just to buy Safari.. they normally dont bother about the other cars/models around. For many owning a Safari (still) is making a dream come true! (Despite of entry of many new players in SUV segment like Toyota, Honda, Nissan & GM). In 90's truly Safari was a status symbol and dream of many!
Well, how ever I was not much impressed by Safari's looks (especially the low front bonnet) ..my eyes were rather caressing the masculine beauty of Grande.

With the specs and equipment on board I felt its a good deal and value for money. More over , I live and work abroad and this would be an ideal car which me and my family can use when I come down during holidays. Tata's spare parts are easy to get and reasonably priced - which makes the job of maintenance much easy for my folks back home.

To sum up, I left the showroom quite largely impressed with the 'value for money' and 'SUV looks' part of Grande and the next day popped back in and booked the car!

I had an issue related to ECU (Electronic Control Unit) of Engine, how ever got replaced free of cost through extended warranty scheme. I dont really care about milage and stuff, but I think I am getting 9.5 - 10.5 KM/L with A/c on.

I garnished my Grande with some accessories and people say its a real head turner

11th March 2008, 20:01	#47
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	some pix of Black Grande and Safari. Attached Thumbnails Attached Images Last edited by jkdas : 11th March 2008 at 20:07.
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11th March 2008, 20:16	#48
ram_hyundai Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Calicut ,trisur Posts: 2,020 Thanked: 53 Times View My Garage	The sumo grande front end looks better than the safari,maybe because safari has been arround for some time.JK why not a photo comparo of the interiors.Thats what we see when we are inside. ram
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12th March 2008, 16:03	#50
deuce-deuce BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 39 Thanked: 5 Times	The Sumo grande looks very good on the face of it,but the old chassis,albeit with a stretched wheelbase over the old sumo and a similar but slightly tweaked suspension just do not cut it in the market anymore.The sumo has been has been around since i was wearing chuddies.The grande really deserved an all new chassis. Also,the price difference between the Sumo gx and the Safari ex is about one lakh in Hyderabad.They are absolutely identical in features.This is where I think Tata has lost the plot.I feel the price hike of close to 1.5 lakh(not counting discount,which by the way is a not insubstantial 25-30k) over the old sumo would've been justified if it was an all new car. All my gripes notwithstanding,I would've still considered buying it if it was atleast a half lakh cheaper.
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13th March 2008, 11:07	#52
shatrughna BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 894 Thanked: 68 Times	One of our TBHPian friends- 'Ramie' here is organising a test drive of Sumo Grande at or out of Navi Mumbai in a day or two ( most probably) and rest assured, we will have our own review as few more TBHPians are expected to join. Will keep you updated.
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14th March 2008, 18:50	#53
4x4addict Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 4,483 Thanked: 4,529 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/1 (5)	I probably won't buy the Sumo Grande but it sure makes me look forward to the next version of the Safari !!!
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11th August 2010, 22:40	#54
sreejith_gce Newbie Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Doha Posts: 8 Thanked: 0 Times	I was passing infront of Hyson Motors Thrissur and eyes got stuck with a Safari-Grande pair in mineral red. Couldn't help stopping and checking out... I was greatly impressed with the size and overall shape of Grande - especially the front portion! How ever I felt the interiors bit under quality. Me and the sales guy had a nice discussion and comparison between Grande and Safari. According to him Safari's customers drop in just to buy Safari.. they normally dont bother about the other cars/models around. For many owning a Safari (still) is making a dream come true! (Despite of entry of many new players in SUV segment like Toyota, Honda, Nissan & GM). In 90's truly Safari was a status symbol and dream of many! Well, how ever I was not much impressed by Safari's looks (especially the low front bonnet) ..my eyes were rather caressing the masculine beauty of Grande. With the specs and equipment on board I felt its a good deal and value for money. More over , I live and work abroad and this would be an ideal car which me and my family can use when I come down during holidays. Tata's spare parts are easy to get and reasonably priced - which makes the job of maintenance much easy for my folks back home. To sum up, I left the showroom quite largely impressed with the 'value for money' and 'SUV looks' part of Grande and the next day popped back in and booked the car! I had an issue related to ECU (Electronic Control Unit) of Engine, how ever got replaced free of cost through extended warranty scheme. I dont really care about milage and stuff, but I think I am getting 9.5 - 10.5 KM/L with A/c on. I garnished my Grande with some accessories and people say its a real head turner
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11th August 2010, 23:09	#55
sreejith_gce Newbie Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Doha Posts: 8 Thanked: 0 Times	How did I end up with a Grande I was passing infront of Hyson Motors Thrissur and eyes got stuck with a Safari-Grande pair in mineral red. Couldn't help stopping and checking out... I was greatly impressed with the size and overall shape of Grande - especially the front portion! How ever I felt the interiors bit under quality. Me and the sales guy had a nice discussion and comparison between Grande and Safari. According to him Safari's customers drop in just to buy Safari.. they normally dont bother about the other cars/models around. For many owning a Safari (still) is making a dream come true! (Despite of entry of many new players in SUV segment like Toyota, Honda, Nissan & GM). In 90's truly Safari was a status symbol and dream of many! Well, how ever I was not much impressed by Safari's looks (especially the low front bonnet) ..my eyes were rather caressing the masculine beauty of Grande. With the specs and equipment on board I felt its a good deal and value for money. More over , I live and work abroad and this would be an ideal car which me and my family can use when I come down during holidays. Tata's spare parts are easy to get and reasonably priced - which makes the job of maintenance much easy for my folks back home. To sum up, I left the showroom quite largely impressed with the 'value for money' and 'SUV looks' part of Grande and the next day popped back in and booked the car! I had an issue related to ECU (Electronic Control Unit) of Engine, how ever got replaced free of cost through extended warranty scheme. I dont really care about milage and stuff, but I think I am getting 9.5 - 10.5 KM/L with A/c on. I garnished my Grande with some accessories and people say its a real head turner Attached Thumbnails
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