Found a 2007 Grand Vitara AT (Now Bought) EDIT: OTR Pics on Page 6

Torque-ative · 3rd December 2009, 14:02

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Originally Posted by Samurai

What is 2.7? Is that the low ratio? I didn't know TCIC came with 4WD.

Yes sir it did ,..maybe not now but the original TCIC always had a 4x4 option.

vinod_nookala · 3rd December 2009, 14:11

TATA safari transfer case Low ratio is 2.68:1 to be precise

Samurai · 3rd December 2009, 14:25

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Originally Posted by AVR

So for my Safari TCIC would it be 190NM*2.7 = 513NM???

Yeah, it will be 190x2.68 = 509.2Nm or 0.248 will be the torque to weight ratio. I am assuming the weight to be 2050Kg.

ram.west · 3rd December 2009, 14:37

FYI guys.. The TCIC safari (both 4wd and 2wd) and the Petrol Safari are still available with the new Dicor facelift. The TCIC safari 4wd is around 7.25L on road Chennai.

AVR · 3rd December 2009, 16:01

Apologies for going OT again!

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Originally Posted by ram.west

FYI guys.. The TCIC safari (both 4wd and 2wd) and the Petrol Safari are still available with the new Dicor facelift. The TCIC safari 4wd is around 7.25L on road Chennai.

The TCIC is only available in LX trim in 4x2 option

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Originally Posted by Samurai

Yeah, it will be 190x2.68 = 509.2Nm or 0.248 will be the torque to weight ratio. I am assuming the weight to be 2050Kg.

What exactly can we infer from this ratio? obviously GV has a higher ratio than Gypsy but so what?

ram.west · 3rd December 2009, 18:52

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Originally Posted by AVR

Apologies for going OT again!
The TCIC is only available in LX trim in 4x2 option

Nope Buddy! I got a quote from VST Motors, Chennai for a 4x4 TCIC. Dunno about the trim though. The price list just showed TCIC (new facelift) 4x4.

ram.west · 3rd December 2009, 19:21

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Originally Posted by AVR

Apologies for going OT again!
The TCIC is only available in LX trim in 4x2 option
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Nope Buddy! I got a quote from VST Motors, Chennai for a 4x4 TCIC. Dunno about the trim though. The price list just showed TCIC (new facelift) 4x4.

Guys sorry about the previous post. Just called back the dealer again to confirm, it seems the 4wd TCIC is not available.

The Petrol Version is available with 4x4 it seems.

Apologies for the wrong info.

Ym-enjn · 3rd December 2009, 23:55

Thanks beejay, Randeep, Samurai, Rossi, SirAlec, akas chauhan, ishlinea7260, Jaggu, Aman Sachdev, sudev, akshay4587, Deepak, Ankit, Vinod, dwaraka, Mandeep, Harjeev, Navin.

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Originally Posted by Samurai

Well, Gypsy wouldn't have caused that problem I suppose.

BTW, are you bothered about the Swift/SX4 quality interior as some say? What about the Swift steering wheel they have plonked?

To be very honest I never sit inside a swift so I do not know how that is, but Vitara interior are very practical and do have luxurious feel. I find the steering very sporty with soft feel and made of excellent material, if its same in Swift then its good for Swift. It is very responsive too. So there is no botheration rather its the opposite I feel safe as the spares won't be too expensive coz they are same. (Edit- and don't forget I got it at a price lesser then SX4, close to Swift.)

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Originally Posted by Samurai

Looks like your wife already got her daily drive AT car. Will you be soon starting a new what car thread for your daily car?

BTW, the GV steep climb video I showed before could belong to a GV with a more powerful engine, a 2.4L or DDiS engine. It is a video from Europe. The white one in the animation video is mine.

This is an excellent allround vehicle. Only drawback is FE and high price (new vehicle). If Maruti brings in diesel and localize its production and launch it close to 15L it will be a super big hit. It has sedan like comfort, more spacious, superb suspension, tough built, 4x4, all wheel drive and Suzuki backup what else would be needed. The handling of all wheel drive is different from the sedans, specially on turns.

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Originally Posted by renegade

Congratulations yogesh,enjoy the ride,the GV is one good machine and reliable, but if i was in your place i would have gone for the older generation v6 for lesser money and used the rest of the budget on fuel. ..but that is me,its nice to see a GV getting ready for some hardcore offroading soon.

regards

mandeep

Thanks Mandeep. One older price is available at cheaper price, but for me this is good.. Peace of mind and latest product. FE is a concern but on other hand the deal price gives initial advantage.

Now concentrating on its offroad abilities and enjoying its onroad manners till then.

sudev · 4th December 2009, 04:06

If not the NIOC outing I do hope to see you at next SUV Trail Blazing. Which off road area is shown in your pictures?

Amar82 · 4th December 2009, 08:01

Congrats,
You got the GV at a great price, it is in pristine condition. Moreover, maruti vehicles are known for reliability, cherish your ride with your family.

Ym-enjn · 4th December 2009, 13:17

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Originally Posted by sudev

If not the NIOC outing I do hope to see you at next SUV Trail Blazing. Which off road area is shown in your pictures?

Sure, how could I forget that.. (man me dusra laddu phuta!!). I will definitely be there, infact I would also like to participate in recces in and around Jaipur or any other work for 'SUV Explore' in this area.

This one is a forest land very close to our house known as Jhalana forest. I don't go deep inside but only till the point locals take their cattle.

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Thanks Amar82.

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Ym-enjn · 5th December 2009, 12:45

I was going through specs of GV and Scorpio and found that GV has little better configuration than scorpio for offroad.

GV / Scorpio
Length- 4500 / 4430 (Scorpio advantage)
Width- 1810 / 1817 (GV advantage)
Height- 1695 / 1975 (GV advantage)
Wheel Base- 2640 / 2680 (GV advantage)
GC- 200 / 180 (GV advantage)

Can't find figures for front and back over hangs or approach and departure angles. (I guess Scorpio will score there)

Samurai · 5th December 2009, 15:02

Yogesh, these comparisons are rather superficial, won't matter that much in offroading.

While Scorpio and GV both have same power of 120bhp, the Scorpio has 290Nm at a very practical 1800-2000rpm while GV can only deliver 170Nm at 4000rpm. That clinches the victory for Scorpio.

SirAlec · 5th December 2009, 22:20

^^^
Ofcourse it will redline higher than scorpio. Vitara has a gas motor.

Ym-enjn · 6th December 2009, 22:31

^^ Seems to be another gypsy and jeep war, lets leave it.

The Vitara goes to river bed offroad and pass with flying colors on each front- comfort, ride, power, speed, safety and capability. The only drawback was FE. Anyways had great fun. Sorry folk only 4 pics.

3rd December 2009, 14:11	#62
vinod_nookala Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,737 Thanked: 431 Times View My Garage	TATA safari transfer case Low ratio is 2.68:1 to be precise
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3rd December 2009, 14:37	#64
ram.west BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: New Hartford,NY Posts: 417 Thanked: 34 Times	FYI guys.. The TCIC safari (both 4wd and 2wd) and the Petrol Safari are still available with the new Dicor facelift. The TCIC safari 4wd is around 7.25L on road Chennai.
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4th December 2009, 04:06	#69
sudev Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 3,863 Thanked: 3,253 Times	If not the NIOC outing I do hope to see you at next SUV Trail Blazing. Which off road area is shown in your pictures?
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4th December 2009, 08:01	#70
Amar82 BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Ludhiana Posts: 291 Thanked: 5 Times View My Garage	Congrats, You got the GV at a great price, it is in pristine condition. Moreover, maruti vehicles are known for reliability, cherish your ride with your family. Last edited by Amar82 : 4th December 2009 at 08:03.
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5th December 2009, 12:45	#72
Ym-enjn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Jaipur Posts: 1,039 Thanked: 61 Times	I was going through specs of GV and Scorpio and found that GV has little better configuration than scorpio for offroad. GV / Scorpio Length- 4500 / 4430 (Scorpio advantage) Width- 1810 / 1817 (GV advantage) Height- 1695 / 1975 (GV advantage) Wheel Base- 2640 / 2680 (GV advantage) GC- 200 / 180 (GV advantage) Can't find figures for front and back over hangs or approach and departure angles. (I guess Scorpio will score there) Last edited by Ym-enjn : 5th December 2009 at 12:47.
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5th December 2009, 15:02	#73
Samurai Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore/Udupi Posts: 26,014 Thanked: 50,165 Times View My Garage	Yogesh, these comparisons are rather superficial, won't matter that much in offroading. While Scorpio and GV both have same power of 120bhp, the Scorpio has 290Nm at a very practical 1800-2000rpm while GV can only deliver 170Nm at 4000rpm. That clinches the victory for Scorpio.
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5th December 2009, 22:20	#74
SirAlec Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: zxc Posts: 3,393 Thanked: 727 Times	^^^ Ofcourse it will redline higher than scorpio. Vitara has a gas motor.
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6th December 2009, 22:31	#75
Ym-enjn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Jaipur Posts: 1,039 Thanked: 61 Times	^^ Seems to be another gypsy and jeep war, lets leave it. The Vitara goes to river bed offroad and pass with flying colors on each front- comfort, ride, power, speed, safety and capability. The only drawback was FE. Anyways had great fun. Sorry folk only 4 pics.
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