Suggestions for ICE upgrade - Getz - Team-BHP

PatienceWins · 2nd July 2008, 23:38

Current Setup:
Head Unit: Pioneer 4750
Amplifier: Panasonic 4 channel (1000W, 64*4 RMS at 4 ohms)
Front Components: Alpine Type-S 171
Rear Co-Axials: Alpine Type-S 6*9

The current setup is tuned by Anwar, Auto Fusion and I am pretty happy with the sound quality. The weakest link in my set up is the head unit and I am going to replace it with Alpine 9887.

Questions:
I plan to get a subwoofer with good sound quality (I hate SPL). My Vitamin M would be low after getting Alpine 9887, but I prefer to save and upgrade in one go. I hate to see my car stripped for installations.
Maximum combined budget for subwoofer and Monoblock: Rs.20000

1. I drive the car and the only user 90% of the time. The amplifier currently drives the front and rear speakers. Should I use the amplifier to drive the front components and subwoofer or get a monoblock to drive the subwoofer?

2. Please give your suggestions for the subwoofer and monoblock.

XetaGLGRocks · 3rd July 2008, 12:52

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Originally Posted by PatienceWins

Current Setup:
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Questions:
I plan to get a subwoofer with good sound quality (I hate SPL). My Vitamin M would be low after getting Alpine 9887, but I prefer to save and upgrade in one go. I hate to see my car stripped for installations.
Maximum combined budget for subwoofer and Monoblock: Rs.20000

1. I drive the car and the only user 90% of the time. The amplifier currently drives the front and rear speakers. Should I use the amplifier to drive the front components and subwoofer or get a monoblock to drive the subwoofer?

A Monoblock might be an overkill for a Getz. A good two channel amp would be sufficient to drive the Sub.

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Originally Posted by PatienceWins

2. Please give your suggestions for the subwoofer and monoblock.

Ground Zero - GZTW12MK2 is an excelllent Subwoofer. It has excellent SQ.
For the monoblock JBL GTO3501 should suffice your needs. It has the right power to drive the Ground Zero Sub.

nishantgandhi · 3rd July 2008, 14:08

I had a similar set of queries for my Getz. After much research and deliberation, I figured that a monoblock is not really a 'must have' for a hatch, unless you really want boom-boom and want to drive the sub to its peak.

If you, like me, would like the sub to complement the front components, and provide the low frequencies, you can suffice with a 2 channel amp for the sub. Or 2 channels bridged out of a 4 channel amp.

Regarding choice of sub, I found the Ground Zero - GZTW12MK2 to be a bit vague and boomy. It plays the entire range of low frequencies well, but not as tight and fast as I want it to. I think JBL scores a shade better than GZ in this deptt.

Bass&Trouble · 3rd July 2008, 14:22

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Originally Posted by nishantgandhi

Regarding choice of sub, I found the Ground Zero - GZTW12MK2 to be a bit vague and boomy. It plays the entire range of low frequencies well, but not as tight and fast as I want it to.

Which car had you auditioned the GZ sub in?

nishantgandhi · 3rd July 2008, 15:24

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Originally Posted by Bass&Trouble

Which car had you auditioned the GZ sub in?

I heard it in an Zen Estilo, Accent and also in Getz. But I didnt check what amp(s) was driving it. Sub woofer performance is affected greattly by the power supplied to it. And of course a well built box!

@PW - best would be to contact member amit_mechengg from Pune. He has experienced both JBL and GZ subs so he can tell you correctly.

From my understanding,it is clear that JBL and GZ have very different sound signatures. Many people like either of the 2 for exactly the same reason. Both are great subs but you just have to figure out what goes with your music better in terms of bass

PatienceWins · 3rd July 2008, 17:24

Thanks guys.

I am looking for tight bass, not boomy. I am going for a sealed enclosure.
I have decided to audition JBL GT5 12" subwoofer. Will Image Dynamics 12" subwoofer fit in my budget?

nishantgandhi · 3rd July 2008, 17:29

Your audition review will be much awaited!

adityamunshi · 3rd July 2008, 17:49

ID 12" sub has an MRP of 12.7 K, with the enclosure +amp im sure it would push 20-25 K

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Originally Posted by PatienceWins

Will Image Dynamics 12" subwoofer fit in my budget?

PatienceWins · 3rd July 2008, 18:19

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Originally Posted by adityamunshi

ID 12" sub has an MRP of 12.7 K, with the enclosure +amp im sure it would push 20-25 K

What about driving the front components and ID sub woofer using the 4 channel amp I am using? The rear co-axials can be used as rear fills. I want the sound stage in the front. I am just thinking if a seperate monoamp is required.

Also, where can I get ID subwoofer in Bangalore?

hemanthisgreat · 3rd July 2008, 18:26

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Originally Posted by PatienceWins

What about driving the front components and ID sub woofer using the 4 channel amp I am using? The rear co-axials can be used as rear fills. I want the sound stage in the front. I am just thinking if a seperate monoamp is required.

A mono amp will do justice to the setup. Also your 4 channel amp may not be sufficient to drive the sub. If you do not require much boom, why don't you go for a 10" sub in a sealed box.

adityamunshi · 3rd July 2008, 20:05

For info about Image Dynamics PM gunbir. He'll send you the required info.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatienceWins

What about driving the front components and ID sub woofer using the 4 channel amp I am using? The rear co-axials can be used as rear fills. I want the sound stage in the front. I am just thinking if a seperate monoamp is required.

Also, where can I get ID subwoofer in Bangalore?

nishantgandhi · 3rd July 2008, 20:31

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Originally Posted by adityamunshi

For info about Image Dynamics PM gunbir. He'll send you the required info.

I guess Gunbir is no more associated with ID. Still, try PMing him as he will guide you.

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Originally Posted by adityamunshi

ID 12" sub has an MRP of 12.7 K, with the enclosure +amp im sure it would push 20-25 K

How is your upgrade plan coming along? Have you decided on the sub and amp?

PatienceWins · 3rd July 2008, 20:50

Thanks guys, I will check with Gunbir.

Initially my plan was to get 10" sub as I do not want boom and boot space is iimportant for me. I changed to 12" after I found that it is recommended here for SQ as well . I know boot space will be affected more - I plan to leave the sub at home when travelling with family/ luggage.

navin · 4th July 2008, 01:11

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Originally Posted by nishantgandhi

I guess Gunbir is no more associated with ID. Still, try PMing him as he will guide you.

Gunbir's company, BBW, represents:
Image Dynamics (USA)
Genesis (UK)
Rainbow/Bull Audio (Germany)
Tru Technology (USA)
Dynaudio (Denmark)

PatienceWins · 4th July 2008, 01:18

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Originally Posted by navin

Gunbir's company, BBW, represents:
Image Dynamics (USA)
Genesis (UK)
Rainbow/Bull Audio (Germany)
Tru Technology (USA)
Dynaudio (Denmark)

Thanks Navin

I have PMed Gunbir.

2nd July 2008, 23:38	#1 (permalink)
PatienceWins Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,148 View My Garage	Suggestions for ICE upgrade - Getz Current Setup: Head Unit: Pioneer 4750 Amplifier: Panasonic 4 channel (1000W, 644 RMS at 4 ohms) Front Components: Alpine Type-S 171 Rear Co-Axials: Alpine Type-S 69 The current setup is tuned by Anwar, Auto Fusion and I am pretty happy with the sound quality. The weakest link in my set up is the head unit and I am going to replace it with Alpine 9887. Questions: I plan to get a subwoofer with good sound quality (I hate SPL). My Vitamin M would be low after getting Alpine 9887, but I prefer to save and upgrade in one go. I hate to see my car stripped for installations. Maximum combined budget for subwoofer and Monoblock: Rs.20000 1. I drive the car and the only user 90% of the time. The amplifier currently drives the front and rear speakers. Should I use the amplifier to drive the front components and subwoofer or get a monoblock to drive the subwoofer? 2. Please give your suggestions for the subwoofer and monoblock.

3rd July 2008, 14:08	#3 (permalink)
nishantgandhi BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 576	I had a similar set of queries for my Getz. After much research and deliberation, I figured that a monoblock is not really a 'must have' for a hatch, unless you really want boom-boom and want to drive the sub to its peak. If you, like me, would like the sub to complement the front components, and provide the low frequencies, you can suffice with a 2 channel amp for the sub. Or 2 channels bridged out of a 4 channel amp. Regarding choice of sub, I found the Ground Zero - GZTW12MK2 to be a bit vague and boomy. It plays the entire range of low frequencies well, but not as tight and fast as I want it to. I think JBL scores a shade better than GZ in this deptt. __________________ If the speed of light is 3x108 m/s, what's the speed of darkness?

3rd July 2008, 17:29	#7 (permalink)
nishantgandhi BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 576	Your audition review will be much awaited! __________________ If the speed of light is 3x108 m/s, what's the speed of darkness?

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PatienceWins Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,148 View My Garage	Thanks guys. I am looking for tight bass, not boomy. I am going for a sealed enclosure. I have decided to audition JBL GT5 12" subwoofer. Will Image Dynamics 12" subwoofer fit in my budget?

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PatienceWins Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,148 View My Garage	Thanks guys, I will check with Gunbir. Initially my plan was to get 10" sub as I do not want boom and boot space is iimportant for me. I changed to 12" after I found that it is recommended here for SQ as well . I know boot space will be affected more - I plan to leave the sub at home when travelling with family/ luggage.