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Old 28th September 2011, 10:32   #1
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Hi,

A few of my mates living in UK would like to ship thier old triumph series of cars to India and then drive around India for two weeks.

I would appreciate the detailed info on the following:

1. Once the car reaches a port, what are the formalities regarding:

1. Any duty payable?

2. Any tax payable so that it can ply on Indian roads..

3. If yes, where is the same to be paid?

4. Any fitness certificate to be obtained?

5. What about mandatory insurance to be obtained?

Any links to any website where any of these are written in detail would be welcome.

Cheers.
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Hi,

A few of my mates living in UK would like to ship thier old triumph series of cars to India and then drive around India for two weeks.

I would appreciate the detailed info on the following:

1. Once the car reaches a port, what are the formalities regarding:

1. Any duty payable?

2. Any tax payable so that it can ply on Indian roads..

3. If yes, where is the same to be paid?

4. Any fitness certificate to be obtained?

5. What about mandatory insurance to be obtained?

Any links to any website where any of these are written in detail would be welcome.

Cheers.
Hi,

The best and only people to help you in this regard would be The Vintage And Classic Car Club of India (VCCCI). They organize everything including the carnets. You can contact them on the address below:-

DOSSA MANSION
1/ 6 SIR P. M. ROAD
FORT, MUMBAI - 400 001
+91 22 22664773
nitin.dossa@gmail.com

Kind Regards,
Yash
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Hi Yash,I was told that you are the secretary of the VCCCI.So that makes you the most suitable guy to give the info asked for.Can you post your reply to vu2pmc so that the rest of us also can be enlightened please? thanks in advance and warmest regards.
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Hi, A few of my mates living in UK would like to ship thier old triumph series of cars to India and then drive around India for two weeks....... Cheers.
I suggest that your friends contact their local automotive association and obtain a customs carnet. With that they can ship their cars to India. The cars must have a local MOT, local taxes and insurance upto date, then they need not do anything here, travel on their local registration plates. In China you have to obtain a local plate.
Some may recall that some time ago about 10 Mustangs came to India for a drive, they took a temporary registration from Mumbai and VCCCI tried to make it an issue. When you come with the carnet from abroad, there should be no issues. I understand that FICCI also issues Carnets in India, but you would have to recheck on that. Happy Motoring in India.

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Hi Yash,I was told that you are the secretary of the VCCCI. So that makes you the most suitable guy to give the info asked for. Can you post your reply to vu2pmc so that the rest of us also can be enlightened please? thanks in advance and warmest regards.
Wow, when did that happen. Us members were not even informed. Presidentship has been usurped, and now this news. This is becoming a private and exclusive club, nothing in it for enthusiasts.
Please do let us hear about the Carnet procedures under VCCCI and the COSTS involved. Best and only?

Cheers harit

Also, check this link http://www.rac.co.uk/driving-abroad/carnet-de-passage/

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I understand that FICCI also issues Carnets in India, but you would have to recheck on that. Happy Motoring in India.

Please do let us hear about the Carnet procedures under VCCCI and the COSTS involved. Best and only?
I am up loading a PDF version of a Document I got. Its actually info contained in the web pages of Mumbai Customs.

Cars brought in by Carnet, once is duly cleared by customs, can be driven in India (may be customs will ask you for an India Third Party Insurance to comply with the MV Act). The period is usually 6 months and extendable by another 6 months

Hope this is useful info

Best Regards & Drive/Ride Safe

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A Carnet de Passage is available with The Federation of Indian Automobile Associations (FIAA), 76 Veer Nariman Road, Churchgate, Mumbai 400 020. – Mr. Vincent Machado, Secretary General-Intl. Affairs, Tel No.32415555.

FIAA is the only authorized Association who issues the carnet de passage.

Import of cars under carnet to be used on roads can be only AIT/FIA carnets and not the ones issued by the Chamber of Commerce which is ATA carnets issued in India by FICCI.

On any carnets issued overseas for cars arriving in India are to be counter guaranted by the FIAA.

Third Party Insurance of these cars is a must.

The cars coming under the carnet don’t have to have a MOT (in India MOT is not applicable for cars it is only ater 15 years) no local taxes have to be paid.

As on date China does not issue carnets, as for the 10 Mustangs there was no role played by VCCCI and somebody will have to prove it.

Mr. Nitin Dossa is the President of the FIAA.

It is always Happy Motoring in India.
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A Carnet de Passage is available.............
I saw this post a few days ago, and then did some research.
Basically there are three situations where one would wish eor a Carnet.
1) Bring car into India, use it and send it back. Whether one comes by road, or by ship, the carnet is required. The best way to go about this is to contact a local club like the RAC or ADAC, they will do needful. There is some sort of counter guarantee from FIAA required, the clubs will handle this from their side and you need not go to any Indian organisation yourself. In case of shipping you need someone to handle clearance formalities with the authorities, there is a firm specialising in this field called Sadikally Esoofally and Co, google them for more details.
In post no 2 above it states that VCCCI is the best and only organisation for this, oh really?

2) Take a vehicle out of India. I came across notes where people wanted to buy Enfield bikes in India and drive them back to Europe. In that case one would require a carnet, not to bring the bike back but to pass through Pakistan and Iran, you have to enter and exit those countries. From Turkey onwards apparently no carnet is required. Looking at the political situations, driving through these countries may not be very safe and it would be better to ship bikes out. In that case a carnet would not be required.
3) Drive a vehicle out and bring back to India, though relatively rare, a carnet would be required. Here you have to contact local clubs as mentioned in the post above.

You can also check for info:
EXEMPTION TO CERTAIN VEHICLES IMPORTED BY TOURISTS* UNDER TRIPTYQUE OR CARNET DE PASSAGE

Some general observations on the posts above.
Mahindra had a driving expedition a few years ago to China, the vehicles had to be locally registered, and were always with some guides.
Then there was a motoring expedition from Manipur through Burma ending somewhere in the east, maybe Thailand or Singapore. Those vehicles were shipped back. They should have gone on that tour under a carnet, there was also some government involvement.
I am aware of only two vintage cars leaving India for an event and subsequently returning, a Pierce Arrow and a Studebaker. Maybe more have gone, off hand I am not aware.

I feel that Mr. Yash has not understood my post about the Mustangs, so I will elaborate. One cannot prove that VCCCI was involved with the import of Mustangs, because VCCCI was NOT, and I never said that. What I said was that VCCCI was not involved with the Mustangs, Mr. Nitin Dossa got furious because they managed without his assistance, threatening to get the cars seized.

I also notice that there is no reply to posts 3 & 4 above.

Cheers harit

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Just planning a trip to India from UK.
I have been required to take carnet de passage before the journey.

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Hi Indigill. Please apply for membership to the VCCCI by going on their site. You can become a member under the following categories. Patron member, Life member, ( these two categories have voting rights ) Ordinary member, Associate member, Temporary member or Honorary member.( these have no voting rights) I suggest you apply for Temporary membership after which the club will assist you so that you have a smooth journey whilst in India.
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I feel its easier to rent a car and use it for 2 weeks rather than importing a car from UK.

Land in india, you can even pre-book through internet if needed. Hire a luxurious car and use it to your heart's content for 2 weeks. You even get options of Self-drive also. PAy the rental money, return the car to the dealer and go home peacefully.

This is a no tension method.
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Just planning a trip to India from UK.
I have been required to take carnet de passage before the journey.
Contact your local club like RAC for a carnet, they will give it to you. You will need some to clear the car from customs, and also do the formalities when you return.

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Hi Indigill. Please apply for membership to the VCCCI by going on their site........
The site is shut since a while
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I feel its easier to rent a car....
I second that. This is the most sensible and economic option with least hassles.

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Just planning a trip to India from UK.
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I feel its easier to rent a car and use it for 2 weeks rather than importing a car from UK.

Land in india, you can even pre-book through internet if needed. Hire a luxurious car and use it to your heart's content for 2 weeks. You even get options of Self-drive also. PAy the rental money, return the car to the dealer and go home peacefully.

This is a no tension method.
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I second that. This is the most sensible and economic option with least hassles.
Guys, I'm sure the reason for the trip is the journey itself, rather than having a mode of transport when moving about here...am I right?
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Guys, I'm sure the reason for the trip is the journey itself, rather than having a mode of transport when moving about here...am I right?
You are very right, the whole idea it to do the trip than to worry about travelling in India. For that i already have 3 other cars. In any case if all goes well, i will then drive it back to UK a few months down the lane. For more information you can look for a trip from glasgow2goa on web. The carnet is normally for 6 months or 1 year and i have chose 1 year to give me ample time.
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Hi,

The best and only people to help you in this regard would be The Vintage And Classic Car Club of India (VCCCI). They organize everything including the carnets. You can contact them on the address below:-

DOSSA MANSION
1/ 6 SIR P. M. ROAD
FORT, MUMBAI - 400 001
+91 22 22664773
nitin.dossa@gmail.com

Kind Regards,
Yash
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I saw this post a few days ago, and then did some research.
Basically there are three situations where one would wish eor a Carnet.
1) Bring car into India, use it and send it back. Whether one comes by road, or by ship, the carnet is required. The best way to go about this is to contact a local club like the RAC or ADAC, they will do needful. There is some sort of counter guarantee from FIAA required, the clubs will handle this from their side and you need not go to any Indian organisation yourself. In case of shipping you need someone to handle clearance formalities with the authorities, there is a firm specialising in this field called Sadikally Esoofally and Co, google them for more details.
In post no 2 above it states that VCCCI is the best and only organisation for this, oh really?

2) Take a vehicle out of India. I came across notes where people wanted to buy Enfield bikes in India and drive them back to Europe. In that case one would require a carnet, not to bring the bike back but to pass through Pakistan and Iran, you have to enter and exit those countries. From Turkey onwards apparently no carnet is required. Looking at the political situations, driving through these countries may not be very safe and it would be better to ship bikes out. In that case a carnet would not be required.
3) Drive a vehicle out and bring back to India, though relatively rare, a carnet would be required. Here you have to contact local clubs as mentioned in the post above.

You can also check for info:
EXEMPTION TO CERTAIN VEHICLES IMPORTED BY TOURISTS* UNDER TRIPTYQUE OR CARNET DE PASSAGE

Some general observations on the posts above.
Mahindra had a driving expedition a few years ago to China, the vehicles had to be locally registered, and were always with some guides.
Then there was a motoring expedition from Manipur through Burma ending somewhere in the east, maybe Thailand or Singapore. Those vehicles were shipped back. They should have gone on that tour under a carnet, there was also some government involvement.
I am aware of only two vintage cars leaving India for an event and subsequently returning, a Pierce Arrow and a Studebaker. Maybe more have gone, off hand I am not aware.

I feel that Mr. Yash has not understood my post about the Mustangs, so I will elaborate. One cannot prove that VCCCI was involved with the import of Mustangs, because VCCCI was NOT, and I never said that. What I said was that VCCCI was not involved with the Mustangs, Mr. Nitin Dossa got furious because they managed without his assistance, threatening to get the cars seized.

I also notice that there is no reply to posts 3 & 4 above.

Cheers harit
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Hi,

A few of my mates living in UK would like to ship thier old triumph series of cars to India and then drive around India for two weeks.

I would appreciate the detailed info on the following:

1. Once the car reaches a port, what are the formalities regarding:

1. Any duty payable?

2. Any tax payable so that it can ply on Indian roads..

3. If yes, where is the same to be paid?

4. Any fitness certificate to be obtained?

5. What about mandatory insurance to be obtained?

Any links to any website where any of these are written in detail would be welcome.

Cheers.
Firsly I apologies for quoting all you guys,but I had no other option since you have the most knowledge about CARNET.

Obtaining Carnet from abroad(say US or UK) is quite easy the main problem starts when we start talking about the Indian part of the process.

I have some questions,which might seem odd but they are very relevant as I am expecting my cousins arrival with his Jaguar.So here it goes:

1.RAC says the Carnet can be maximum of 1 year and can be extended further,but I saw in this thread,says its for 6 months and can be extended by 6 months more afterwards,please clarify.

2.MOT is not an issue,but insurance in UK is a big pain,so is it absolutely necessary to have UK insurance to bring the car here?

3.Is it so that the car can stay only as long as the Carnet holder(the person bringing the car) stays in India,and also can he leave India but the car stays here,then he comes back again and takes the car back to UK(all done within valid time period)?

4.In case of accidents/breakdowns what are the procedures to be followed?

5.Is it possible to transfer ownership of the car(on Carnet) and get it registered in India?And if so how much penalty is to be paid?

6.What documents are required while getting the third party insurance in India/registration?

I hope I am clear with my questions and I sure it will help others as well.Cheers.
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Guys, I'm sure the reason for the trip is the journey itself, rather than having a mode of transport when moving about here...am I right?
@MOD could you kindly move the thread to International Automotive section,that would be more relevant.Another reason being the urgency of the matter,please oblige.

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