Dicor or Quadra-Jet - Team-BHP

tez · 17th January 2008, 14:22

Folks, this is not a what car question. As we know tata would be having 2 diesel cars in its stable. One is indica dicor and the other is X1 Quadra-jet. Now as i understand both of the engines are based on common rail technology. What would be the main difference between the engines. Would FIAT engine be better than Tata's one.

snaronikar · 17th January 2008, 14:32

DICOR is based on Delphi's technology and Fiat is on DDiS (its own) technology. I think both are same more or less.

anurag11 · 17th January 2008, 14:39

fiat engine certainly has an edge over tatas as it is 100 cc less, produces same power, produces more torque and also is quite small in size and weight

jkdas · 17th January 2008, 15:03

According to sales figures and the truth that the quadra would be seen in at least 5 cars shows that its the better option.

kpbhatt · 17th January 2008, 15:05

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Originally Posted by tez

Folks, this is not a what car question. As we know tata would be having 2 diesel cars in its stable. One is indica dicor and the other is X1 Quadra-jet. Now as i understand both of the engines are based on common rail technology. What would be the main difference between the engines. Would FIAT engine be better than Tata's one.

If u ask me on a lighter vein -- the Common rails of Fiat (MJD or Quadra Jet) are more common and easier to use than the uncommon Rails (DiCor) of Tata

DCEite · 17th January 2008, 16:26

Test drive the Indigo DICOR and then Swift DDiS.
You will find the answer yourself.

mail4ajo · 17th January 2008, 16:48

Of late, I had been interested only in diesels than petrols. I test drove the DICOR and DDiS, Indica TCIC and Logan DLE at the same time. Trust me, I prefer the Logan engine to the others. Was more silent and smooth.

Between DICOR and DDiS, I would choose DDiS as it was more responsive, felt smoother and we know its not very thirsty for fuel. Hope to see a VGT on the DDiS atleast on the SX4.

roms · 18th January 2008, 00:38

Dicor - good engine. But Multijet/Quadrajet/DDiS/Jet Turbo Diesel(JTD)... you cant question something that has won the best compact diesel engine in the world award for 2005. Couple that to the fact that almost every manufacturer wants that damn thing under the bonnet of their cars, and you know which one is better. Its compact, its got the torque, it makes the cars 'fun to drive' and its super efficient and super reliable.

mahadev_kc · 18th January 2008, 06:41

Multijet engine was developed in conjuction with Bosch and FIAT. Who is better ? Bosch only correct ?

dadu · 18th January 2008, 08:48

You are testing various engines on different frames, their power-to-weight ratios are totally different and is not a true comparison.

I am not saying which is good or bad but just my 2 cents.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mail4ajo

Of late, I had been interested only in diesels than petrols. I test drove the DICOR and DDiS, Indica TCIC and Logan DLE at the same time. Trust me, I prefer the Logan engine to the others. Was more silent and smooth.

Between DICOR and DDiS, I would choose DDiS as it was more responsive, felt smoother and we know its not very thirsty for fuel. Hope to see a VGT on the DDiS atleast on the SX4.

Palio_2005 · 18th January 2008, 09:26

Fiat Multijet (Quadra jet) is a proven technology and definitely superior to the Dicor. That's why Tata has chosen to put this in their Indica which would priced lower than the new Indica.

smith · 18th January 2008, 09:32

The fiat multijet is a proven one,perhaps the best small diesel right now .As far as dicor is concerned it is too early to give a verdict-moreover when is tata going to launch indica & indigo with the fiat engines-any deadline for that?

madan80 · 18th January 2008, 09:45

i agree, each engine has its advantages. a truck will not need an engine with a high initial pickup, but more as a long running engine.
each has its plus point and negatives. however, as end consumers our primary goal will be to look at NVH levels and refinment.

BUSA · 18th January 2008, 10:24

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Would FIAT engine be better than Tata's one.

Certainly Fiat's little gem is better then Tata's Dicor. The Quadra will revv more freely and higher then the Tata.

Also you cannot judge a engine by the NVH levels. Case in point is going to be the Swift & Palio 1.3 Both having the same engine, the Palio will have better NVH levels. Similarly maybe Logan is better packaged and hence seems to be more quieter.

shineshine · 18th January 2008, 10:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by snaronikar

DICOR is based on Delphi's technology and Fiat is on DDiS (its own) technology. I think both are same more or less.

DDiS is just a name given by Maruti Suzuki. Its not of Fiat.
Fiat refers the same as 'Multijet' eg: 1.3 Multijet, 1.9 Multijet etc

17th January 2008, 14:22	#1 (permalink)
tez BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: pune Posts: 222	Dicor or Quadra-Jet Folks, this is not a what car question. As we know tata would be having 2 diesel cars in its stable. One is indica dicor and the other is X1 Quadra-jet. Now as i understand both of the engines are based on common rail technology. What would be the main difference between the engines. Would FIAT engine be better than Tata's one.

17th January 2008, 14:32	#2 (permalink)
snaronikar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 1,655 View My Garage	DICOR is based on Delphi's technology and Fiat is on DDiS (its own) technology. I think both are same more or less. __________________ Love your job but Never love your company because you never know when your company stops loving you-NRN

17th January 2008, 15:03	#4 (permalink)
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapuram Posts: 5,304 View My Garage	According to sales figures and the truth that the quadra would be seen in at least 5 cars shows that its the better option. __________________ "She may not look like much, but she's got it where it counts, kid."

17th January 2008, 16:48	#7 (permalink)
mail4ajo Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Back to Namma Chennai Posts: 1,104 View My Garage	Of late, I had been interested only in diesels than petrols. I test drove the DICOR and DDiS, Indica TCIC and Logan DLE at the same time. Trust me, I prefer the Logan engine to the others. Was more silent and smooth. Between DICOR and DDiS, I would choose DDiS as it was more responsive, felt smoother and we know its not very thirsty for fuel. Hope to see a VGT on the DDiS atleast on the SX4. __________________ 2006 Maruti Alto LXi - Closed Loop LPG kit - Disconnected now 2003 HH Ambition 1998 Yamaha RX135

18th January 2008, 00:38	#8 (permalink)
roms BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 414	Dicor - good engine. But Multijet/Quadrajet/DDiS/Jet Turbo Diesel(JTD)... you cant question something that has won the best compact diesel engine in the world award for 2005. Couple that to the fact that almost every manufacturer wants that damn thing under the bonnet of their cars, and you know which one is better. Its compact, its got the torque, it makes the cars 'fun to drive' and its super efficient and super reliable. __________________ Possession:Palio1.6 S10 Obsession:FIAT Stilo 2.4 Abarth,Grande Punto,FIAT Bravo,Alfa Romeo 147 GTA,Alfa BRERA...all things Italian

17th January 2008, 14:39	#3 (permalink)
anurag11 Newbie Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: indore Posts: 22	fiat engine certainly has an edge over tatas as it is 100 cc less, produces same power, produces more torque and also is quite small in size and weight

17th January 2008, 16:26	#6 (permalink)
DCEite Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: (Gur)Gaon Posts: 1,891 View My Garage	Test drive the Indigo DICOR and then Swift DDiS. You will find the answer yourself.

18th January 2008, 06:41	#9 (permalink)
mahadev_kc BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 194 View My Garage	Multijet engine was developed in conjuction with Bosch and FIAT. Who is better ? Bosch only correct ? __________________ Cheers, Gudda ------ Some drive cars, I drive the Palio FIAT Palio 1.6 Sports \| APR-2006 \| 21000 Kms

18th January 2008, 09:26	#11 (permalink)
Palio_2005 BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 125	Fiat Multijet (Quadra jet) is a proven technology and definitely superior to the Dicor. That's why Tata has chosen to put this in their Indica which would priced lower than the new Indica.

18th January 2008, 09:32	#12 (permalink)
smith BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: patna Posts: 53	The fiat multijet is a proven one,perhaps the best small diesel right now .As far as dicor is concerned it is too early to give a verdict-moreover when is tata going to launch indica & indigo with the fiat engines-any deadline for that?

18th January 2008, 09:45	#13 (permalink)
madan80 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Chennai Posts: 864 View My Garage	i agree, each engine has its advantages. a truck will not need an engine with a high initial pickup, but more as a long running engine. each has its plus point and negatives. however, as end consumers our primary goal will be to look at NVH levels and refinment. __________________ Taken the plunge! www. virtu. in __________________ 2002 Lancer \| 2006 Palio \| 2008 Trek 4300D

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