Re: Buying, Owning, Driving and Maintaining a car in North America Quote:
Originally Posted by josejoseph
I'm a big time Mazda fan, but the new Mazda3 has made me angry & sad. The older one is so much fun to drive.
And the sales person was very rude to us. |
Hey Jose,
I went to Oaktree once and yes the person who spoke to me was rude. But I always had a great experience with Capitol Mazda. Ended up buying my 3 from them, and eve recently went for a test drive of the 6. The sales person took his time and gave us a test drive, and no pressure to buy a car immediately. I would recommend them any day .
Agree with your comments reg the steering. I didn't TD the new 3 yet, but what you said applies to the old 6 vs the new 6. It is not bad, but without that steering feel I don't see it offering better value than an Accord. Quote:
Originally Posted by Activ8 Buying anything because of it's 'brand' and not its ultimate function is stupid and your friend is doomed to perennial disappointment. The fascination that Chinese and Indians have with brands is something to do with identity crises and another to do with 'keeping up with the Jones' image'. When you drop that pretense, you can actually like what you buy.
Clearly he is shooting way above his means - he wants a Q7/X5 but can only afford the lesser ones. Lets drop the bs about "handling" and "look of gearshift". (a) 99% people are not racing drivers and will probably never reach even 10% of vehicle capability, nor (b) is going to be able to tell the difference in handling if he didn't read magazine reviews. So stop:
The thing to do with such people is hear them out, encourage them to test drive and ultimately let them buy what they want without ANY advice. Because if he really needs an SUV and has that kind of budget, he should be buying a Grand Cherokee SRT with full leather. The capability, reliability and capacity of that vehicle will make the Audi and BMW seem foolish in comparison. And last but not least - in this country only women drive crossovers and compact SUVs. Real men buy Jeeps or trucks or Caddy Escalades. |
Hmm I disagree with almost everything you said.
- Everyone, not just Indians and Chinese, is obsessed with brands
- In day to day driving you can feel the difference in a vehicle's capability in terms of handling, ESPECIALLY in SUVs. And you don't have to read any magazines to feel the difference.
- Jeep has horrible reliability reports, especially the newer ones.
- I know several people with good taste who drive X3s and Q5s. They are all guys. Only one of them is an Indian, and no the rest aren't Chinese. Buying an X3 versus an Jeep is not a question of gender, it is a question of taste.
Of the lot I would suggest the Q5. A really capable vehicle and feels great to drive. And in an SUV, I would want that Quattro. |