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Originally Posted by pedrolourenco That's exactly what I said too. The only confusion was TCI or CDI. Both are electronic. So Electra had electronic ignition whereas Std had points. |
Nope you said,
"The original Electra (CI Engine) was introduced with TCI (Electronic Ignition) as opposed to Points on the Std 350 & 500". Mate you need to understand that although both CDI and TCI are electronic they function differently. I own both and I know their difference. Out of the many differences one is that an RE with CDI can be kick started with an almost dead battery while the TCI has to be push started. This is due to the technical difference between the voltage drawn by CDI as compared to TCI. I would like to reiterate it again that first generation Electra came with
CDI. And so did the first generation AVL Tbird 350. I own it hence I know it.
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Again some thing I said though I missed out on the shocks and other finer details.
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Yeah I own them different models hence know the finer details and differences. I am dead sure of what I type in here.
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Sorry but this is not correct. All CI engines were the same. In the 60's or 70's they had heavy cranks, then that was changed to a very light one and later to a slightly heavier crank (but lighter that the original). This continued till the end of production.
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Nope again, although they looked identical they were not the same. If I start mentioning here about the differences it would run into hundreds of pages. The initial G2 series(derived from G series) on which the Bullet 350 CI engine is based on had heavy crank and an oil pressure relief valve screwed onto the bottom side left neck below the fins which was then replaced with a different design. The crank weight continued to be heavy up until B1 series engine and was later reduced sometime in 1973's. The crank weight was again reduced during the 90's where RE faced a massive backlash from Bulleteer's which prompted them to put the heavier crank back on Standard models whereas lighter cranks continued on Electra CI, I am not even mentioning AVL engines here as they are altogether different. I own a 1961 G2, 1969 B1 and 1996 CI Bullet and know the feel of crank weights while riding them and also saw it when their engines were stripped for overhauling.
Refer to this thread for more clarification.
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/motorb...-bullet-5.html
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The only difference in the electra was a modified casing to accommodate the electric starter.
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Nope again the casing design was modified to accommodate the CDI based alternator and magneto and not just the electric starter. The same design was there in the first generation Electra model as well which did not have electric start.
Check this thread:
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/motorb...electra-2.html
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The UCE 350 engines were identical on all models.
The only difference was the starter. No difference in the crank etc.
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Nope again go check the first thread I have mentioned which also has a screenshot of RE's website which categorically mentions that Bullet Standard 350 has a heavy crank. While no such thing was mentioned when UCE Electra was listed as well as CL350. You can yourself see it on RE's official website where they explicitly mention about heavy crank against Standard Bullet 350 model listed under
Special Features heading.
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The differences are mainly cosmetic other than the disk and starter.
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You forgot the gas filled rear shockups on the Electra as well as a different fork design.
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The fork is the same. The standard uses a cover for the tubes whereas the Electra doesn't. Open up a standard fork and check.
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Mate I know it that is why I mentioned both use
Telescopic fork design. I have swapped Electra fork on a Standard and believe me it is not a bolt on. It is a tad bit different than normal Standard fork, don't believe me check the oil seal on both the model forks, again look at the finer details.
Glad. I wish you could've seen the specifications section when Electra UCE was listed as a separate model on RE's website. It was nowhere mentioned that the Electra had a heavy crank while being explicitly mentioned for Standard Bullet 350.
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Technically they are correct as the "Electra" is no longer produced. When Mahindra bought Kinetic, they renamed the Kinetic Nova to Mahindra Duro. Could you claim that the Kinetic Nova was still available? Similarly can you go to the Enfield website and select the Electra?
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Mate my concern is not about Electra being rebadged and now tabled under Standard 350, I knew it when the name Electra was changed long time back to Bullet 350. My concern about those morons spreading rumours that Electra's production has stopped and other blah blah... with regards to less demand and low profit margin, etc. There is no official statement from RE about this.
Again your example about Kinetic and Mahindra is flawed as both are different companies, the same model does not matter. The companies are different period.
As far as your question about buying an Electra, Yes one can buy still buy it albeit with a different badge which wasn't changed overnight but done long back about 6-8 months back.