Which Fiesta? 1.4 or 1.6 - Both Petrol?

gopal.putrevu · 18th February 2008, 00:35

Dear All,

I am confused on the curret choices I have.

My local dealer has

Option A: Dec 2007 1.4 EXI petrol model on which he is offering a disc. of ~40K (insurance + compulsory stuff + MP3 player (11K). So, the on-road price is arnd. 6.16 lacs

Option B: 1.4 ZXI petrol which would cost me around 6.73 lacs on-road

Option C: 1.6 ZXI (Fida Edition) for around 7 Lacs

I've kinda decided on Option A, if its 1.4. My friend is quite happy with his 1.4 even on highway drives. Should I wait for new 1.6 ZXI instead which would cost me around 7.1 Lacs???

I am not greatly worried on resale value as I learnt that Dec'07 is as good as 2008 make.

Would be great if you can help me

Thanks

Gopal

yogi1771 · 18th February 2008, 01:29

Did you check this thread out http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...-zxi-more.html

gemithomas · 18th February 2008, 08:54

WEll. THis is a no thinker. If you want performance and if you can afford the price. THe 1.6 is a very good choice. If you want to get more F.E figures stick to the 1.4. If the features on the zxi are those that can be sourced from outside go for the Exi and fot those additionally. i Guess the price would still be less.

esteem_lover · 18th February 2008, 09:15

A 40K discount seems to be pretty good. Since you are happy with the performance of the 1.4, take it & save a lakh over the 1.6.

ram_hyundai · 18th February 2008, 10:17

hey why arent you worried about resale value.and for your information dec 2007 and jan 2008 are not same in the second hand market and there can be a difference of 20-25k in resale.it could be more if new generation or new variants come up.so be more wise and take a dicission.
the point you have to think about is there is a set of compulsory accesories.can you elaborate on it.as most of them or atleast one of them would be an accesory which you dont need.if you get 40000 cash discount then its a different issue.here when it is coupled with accesories you can be assured that you loose minimum 20% of it as they give you the accesories at selling price rather than cost price.
ram

raul · 18th February 2008, 10:35

Don't get into the 2007 thing for a few thousands. Remember you are spending 6 lakhs plus, what's 40000 more. Better to go for 2008 and have peace of mind.

Regarding 1.4/1.6, the new version is always preferred in terms of resale value, you are buying at the right time so take advantage of you timing and get the new version.

I don't know about the new 1.6 ZXI but if it has abs and driver side airbags its a no brainer. The extra cost is worth it.

GTO · 18th February 2008, 10:37

Though the 1.4 is "sufficient", it is the 1.6 that makes the Fiesta so much more complete. The Fiesta is one of the few driver oriented cars in that segment and has very balanced underpinnings. Stretch to the 100BHP option and keep smiling on long drives!

spindoc · 18th February 2008, 11:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by gopal.putrevu

Dear All,

I've kinda decided on Option A, if its 1.4.

I am not greatly worried on resale value as I learnt that Dec'07 is as good as 2008 make.

Quote:

Originally Posted by raul

I don't know about the new 1.6 ZXI but if it has abs and driver side airbags its a no brainer. The extra cost is worth it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ram_hyundai

hey why arent you worried about resale value.and for your information dec 2007 and jan 2008 are not same in the second hand market and there can be a difference of 20-25k in resale.

The 1.6 is definitely more FTD than the 1.4 going by everyone's views on T-BHP. So, it comes down to FTD + comforts (keyless entry, electric ORVMs, height adjustable seats...) vs FE + Price.

Also, as quoted by ram_hyundai, there's definitely a price difference between Dec 07 and Jan 08 models in the Used Car market. I checked prices for the 1.4 EXI at Carwale.com and found a Dec 06 model is quoted at ~ 22K less than a Jan 07 model.

See here for more details:
Dec 06 model valuation - CarValue | My Valuations | CarWale CarValue - CarWale.com India
Jan 07 model valuation - CarValue | My Valuations | CarWale CarValue - CarWale.com India

I am sure you can still find a logically inclined individual buyer when you need to sell, but that's another issue altogether.

@raul, ABS + Airbags are available only on the top-end SXIs and not in the 1.6 ZXI. The original news about Airbags and ABS being made standard across variants was wrong.

shenbag63 · 18th February 2008, 11:16

1.4 is a bit under powered. Recently Ford announcd that the 1.4 ZXI will be replaced with 1.6 engine based on user feedback with just a Rs5000 increase in the price. So go for 1.6. You might get that too at a good price.

vnabhi · 18th February 2008, 11:57

If you are inquiring about the cost of the vehicle w.r.t. the discounts offered for 2007 models, then the above responses should guide you.
On the other hand, if it is the features of a 1.4 vs the 1.6, there was a similar thread last week, per link below:-
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/what-c...i-1-6-sxi.html

GTO · 18th February 2008, 15:11

Quote:

Airbags are available only on the top-end SXIs and not in the 1.6 ZXI.

Wern't airbags made available across the Fiesta range recently?

spindoc · 18th February 2008, 15:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTO

Wern't airbags made available across the Fiesta range recently?

I thought so too, until I checked Ford's web site and also read this article:
Moneycontrol India :: News :: Ford Fiesta's new Pace Petrol series to add excitement :: :: Press- News :: Ford India ,automobile,Fiesta Pace Petrol,cars,Scott McCormack,Limca Book

The new top end SXI variants in both Petrol and Diesel offerings, now has a driver-side Air Bag and classy Turn Indicators on Outside Rearview Mirror [ORVM]. The SXIs also have ABS [Anti-Lock Braking System], making Ford Fiesta one of the few manufacturer's amongst the segment players offering ABS as a standard fitment.

Their claim of being one of the few offering ABS+Airbags as "standard" fitment is hyperbole at best and a plain lie at worst.

raul · 19th February 2008, 00:33

That's way too much spinning in one press release.

narayan · 19th February 2008, 11:10

1.4EXI for 6.16 lakhs after discount and that too 2007 model

the same car was offered to some of our employees at the AVP grade when i used to be with a bank in chennai at 4.5 lakhs as a part of corporate scheme - and this was as early as in april-may 2006

how do car companies manage to price it so low under corporate scheme ?! or are they overpriced in the open market ?

18th February 2008, 00:35	#1
gopal.putrevu BANNED Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Chennai Posts: 25 Thanked: Once	Which Fiesta? 1.4 or 1.6 - Both Petrol? Dear All, I am confused on the curret choices I have. My local dealer has Option A: Dec 2007 1.4 EXI petrol model on which he is offering a disc. of ~40K (insurance + compulsory stuff + MP3 player (11K). So, the on-road price is arnd. 6.16 lacs Option B: 1.4 ZXI petrol which would cost me around 6.73 lacs on-road Option C: 1.6 ZXI (Fida Edition) for around 7 Lacs I've kinda decided on Option A, if its 1.4. My friend is quite happy with his 1.4 even on highway drives. Should I wait for new 1.6 ZXI instead which would cost me around 7.1 Lacs??? I am not greatly worried on resale value as I learnt that Dec'07 is as good as 2008 make. Would be great if you can help me Thanks Gopal
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18th February 2008, 01:29	#2
yogi1771 BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: mumbai Posts: 697 Thanked: 16 Times	Did you check this thread out http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...-zxi-more.html Last edited by yogi1771 : 18th February 2008 at 01:30.
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18th February 2008, 08:54	#3
gemithomas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 2,366 Thanked: 143 Times View My Garage	WEll. THis is a no thinker. If you want performance and if you can afford the price. THe 1.6 is a very good choice. If you want to get more F.E figures stick to the 1.4. If the features on the zxi are those that can be sourced from outside go for the Exi and fot those additionally. i Guess the price would still be less.
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18th February 2008, 09:15	#4
esteem_lover Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Madras/Py Posts: 7,556 Thanked: 513 Times View My Garage	A 40K discount seems to be pretty good. Since you are happy with the performance of the 1.4, take it & save a lakh over the 1.6.
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18th February 2008, 10:17	#5
ram_hyundai Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Calicut ,trisur Posts: 2,019 Thanked: 53 Times View My Garage	hey why arent you worried about resale value.and for your information dec 2007 and jan 2008 are not same in the second hand market and there can be a difference of 20-25k in resale.it could be more if new generation or new variants come up.so be more wise and take a dicission. the point you have to think about is there is a set of compulsory accesories.can you elaborate on it.as most of them or atleast one of them would be an accesory which you dont need.if you get 40000 cash discount then its a different issue.here when it is coupled with accesories you can be assured that you loose minimum 20% of it as they give you the accesories at selling price rather than cost price. ram
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18th February 2008, 10:35	#6
raul BHPian Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pune Posts: 920 Thanked: 374 Times	Don't get into the 2007 thing for a few thousands. Remember you are spending 6 lakhs plus, what's 40000 more. Better to go for 2008 and have peace of mind. Regarding 1.4/1.6, the new version is always preferred in terms of resale value, you are buying at the right time so take advantage of you timing and get the new version. I don't know about the new 1.6 ZXI but if it has abs and driver side airbags its a no brainer. The extra cost is worth it.
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18th February 2008, 10:37	#7
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 71,897 Thanked: 323,276 Times View My Garage	Though the 1.4 is "sufficient", it is the 1.6 that makes the Fiesta so much more complete. The Fiesta is one of the few driver oriented cars in that segment and has very balanced underpinnings. Stretch to the 100BHP option and keep smiling on long drives!
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18th February 2008, 11:16	#9
shenbag63 BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 41 Thanked: 0 Times	1.4 is a bit under powered. Recently Ford announcd that the 1.4 ZXI will be replaced with 1.6 engine based on user feedback with just a Rs5000 increase in the price. So go for 1.6. You might get that too at a good price.
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18th February 2008, 11:57	#10
vnabhi Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: DC -> DC Posts: 5,999 Thanked: 2,429 Times View My Garage	If you are inquiring about the cost of the vehicle w.r.t. the discounts offered for 2007 models, then the above responses should guide you. On the other hand, if it is the features of a 1.4 vs the 1.6, there was a similar thread last week, per link below:- http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/what-c...i-1-6-sxi.html
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19th February 2008, 00:33	#13
raul BHPian Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pune Posts: 920 Thanked: 374 Times	That's way too much spinning in one press release.
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19th February 2008, 11:10	#14
narayan Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Singapore Posts: 3,133 Thanked: 2,488 Times View My Garage	1.4EXI for 6.16 lakhs after discount and that too 2007 model the same car was offered to some of our employees at the AVP grade when i used to be with a bank in chennai at 4.5 lakhs as a part of corporate scheme - and this was as early as in april-may 2006 how do car companies manage to price it so low under corporate scheme ?! or are they overpriced in the open market ?
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