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Old 23rd May 2007, 20:17   #196
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Actually Surprise, what is said in that article is generally true for almost all dogs.
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No one should own a Rottweiler unless they are absolutely sure they can control it, and are willing and able to devote time and effort to teaching the dog basic good manners
The Rottweiler has a natural guarding instinct. Do not do anything (for instance, rough play) to enhance this guarding instinct.
No Rottweiler should be left in the sole charge of a person, such as a child, who is not capable of controlling it
Third party insurance should be taken out on any Rottweiler that you own.

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On 23rd September 2006 a five month old baby girl was mauled to death by two Rottweilers after being left alone with them, in United Kingdom

On 27th September, 2006 a fifteen month old boy was attacked by a Rottweiler and suffered injuries to his face after a severe mauling, in West Sussex United Kingdom. The owner of the dog volunteered to have the dog destroyed after it was seized by police.

On April 13th, 2007, a three month old baby was attacked and killed by a Rottweiler, near La Plata, capital city of Buenos Aires Argentina. The baby was attacked while she was sleeping at her grandparent's house, the owners of the dog.
My neighbour has got one. He brought it from one of his relative's place (aged 1.5 hrs).I was very much impressed with its looks and the way it treats the strangers.

Last week it held the neck of next door doberman for 15 mins until 8 persons came together to rescue the doberman. Doberman was hospitalized now. I was very much impressed with its agressive attitude. Since our area is more prone for thefts, I thought of buying one.


But once I read the above thread........ especially the killings....
Though the Heart says yes, but "no" from mind

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Old 23rd May 2007, 20:26   #197
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.... But once I read the above thread........ especially the killings.... Though the Heart says yes, but "no" from mind
As I said, it is true for any dog. The bigger the dog, the bigger the problem. Dogs become uncontrollably aggressive if they are not trained and socialized properly. Many people get big dogs for prestige sake and then don't treat it the way it should be - resulting in the unfortunate events.
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As I said, it is true for any dog. The bigger the dog, the bigger the problem. Dogs become uncontrollably aggressive if they are not trained and socialized properly. Many people get big dogs for prestige sake and then don't treat it the way it should be - resulting in the unfortunate events.
Exactly. Another point I've learnt with practical experience is that if you tie up your dog for extended periods they tend to become much more aggressive then if they are left free for a majority of the time. Had a problem with my GSD when she was newly shifted to the Factory, now since she's left open for a majority of the period she's much more people friendly & less aggressive.
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Exactly. Another point I've learnt with practical experience is that if you tie up your dog for extended periods they tend to become much more aggressive then if they are left free for a majority of the time. Had a problem with my GSD when she was newly shifted to the Factory, now since she's left open for a majority of the period she's much more people friendly & less aggressive.
Seems exactly opposite in my case. My pom has hardly been tied ever, he is almost 1.5 years old now and for the last 6 months he has been biting almost everyone including my brother, dad, myself and even the very frequent vistors. However he is very protective about my mom and wont let anyone enter her bedroom or come near her. He is getting exceedingly difficult to be controlled. Btw we call him Dino.
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Seems exactly opposite in my case. My pom has hardly been tied ever, he is almost 1.5 years old now and for the last 6 months he has been biting almost everyone including my brother, dad, myself and even the very frequent vistors. However he is very protective about my mom and wont let anyone enter her bedroom or come near her. He is getting exceedingly difficult to be controlled. Btw we call him Dino.
Hey, u sure its a pom .... coz the behaviour says it should be an apso !! As for it being very protective about ur mom is coz she is the one who must be feeding him and taking care of him .

As for the debate on Rottweilers , like someone said -- if a dog aint kept well or trained well he can become anti social and very aggresive . The rotweilers have a lock jaw system and thats why they tend to rip open the people they attack . In simpler words , 70% of people keep dogs for the wrong reasons !! We have to realise that animals are not mere toys that can be owned and dis carded as and when required .

Also keeping dogs chained does make them much more aggresive and are prone to biting or attacking people . Try staying chained for 20 hrs a day and even you might get aggressive .

So I hope all BHPians that have pets ... are keeping them for the right reasons and treat them as a part opf tehir families and not like mere toys !!

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Hey, u sure its a pom .... coz the behaviour says it should be an apso !! As for it being very protective about ur mom is coz she is the one who must be feeding him and taking care of him .

So I hope all BHPians that have pets ... are keeping them for the right reasons and treat them as a part opf tehir families and not like mere toys !!

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Yes, I am sure. No, my mom hardly gets time to feed the dog. Infact, for the 1st 3 months it was me who used to feed him everyday. These days its my dad. And he is treated like one of us. We feed him what we eat, at the same time. Take him out for drives or when we go out of station. Infact, he is treated better than me .
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There's no point making a dog agressive just for the sake of it. The dog has to be well bred, well socialised, properly trained and given a lot of love to make it a good pet. A good guard dog attacks only when there is a serious threat to his people or property. Athos's trainer told me that he could train a GSD / Dobe to attack ferociously within 4 days. But, that's the last part of the training which is taught only after the dog learns to obey all commands and becomes controllable.
BTW, Khaadu, what's the progress with Shadow and his tick problem? Any improvement?
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Put down my desire to buy one rottweiler after reading this article

Rottweiler - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
the general idea is - when you buy a Rottweiler - it's your friend & foe for life because you lose touch with most humans!
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In the US,home owners insurance goes up,if you have a Rottweiler or a breed thats known to be excessively aggressive. Think Alsatians and Pitbulls qualify too..

My brother's neighbor has a Rottweiler-Pitbull mix,and this dog has mauled a small kid in the neighborhood. It jumped across a 6ft fence,and got into my brother's backyard. Its scray,since i take my Jack Russell-Beagle dog there often,and my tiny fellow's just about a foot tall..

Its really a tough thing to be able to handle such aggressive dogs,since 7-10 times,they go after anyone they want to inflict harm on,even its owner..
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BTW, Khaadu, what's the progress with Shadow and his tick problem? Any improvement?
I will be in a better position to tell you guys tom .... its just this morning that I bathed him and then used ' RIDD ' on him -- seems to have fewer tics today but they are still there . Will observe for a day or so , shall update you about it .
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Any dog if not trained well and with an irresponsible owner can be dangerous! Its just not specific to Rottweilers. My neighbour has one and its more docile than my GSD!


And khaadu i think its gonna take a few more baths for complete removal! Btw can i visit shadow sometime ?
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do we get anti-tic collars here?
Of course we do.

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Yes, I am sure. No, my mom hardly gets time to feed the dog. Infact, for the 1st 3 months it was me who used to feed him everyday. These days its my dad. And he is treated like one of us. We feed him what we eat, at the same time. Take him out for drives or when we go out of station. Infact, he is treated better than me .
Poms are very very moody & temperamental. Believe me i had 2 beautiful ones who saw me graduate from a school boy to a father, yes they lived with me for 14 & 16 years respectively. at one time i had 4 poms too. But i never had any problem of being bitten in the true sense of the word. yes, they snap at you, but dont really bite.

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I will be in a better position to tell you guys tom .... its just this morning that I bathed him and then used ' RIDD ' on him -- seems to have fewer tics today but they are still there . Will observe for a day or so , shall update you about it .
I had a Golden & she had the worst tick problem that i have ever faced. Unfortunately, since i could not take care of her like i should have, she died of several complications like heart, liver failure etc. i dont know whether they are related to the ticks, but she died a slow death. Did you try notix ? seemed pretty effective on my poms & the golden retriever too.
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And khaadu i think its gonna take a few more baths for complete removal! Btw can i visit shadow sometime ?
Lets see .. will monitor the number of tics found on his body iover the next few days !!!

As for visiting .. let me knwo when u towards Vasant Kunj ... and you are more than welcome to come and meet him . He luvs having company .
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Guys since we are talking about dogs being agressive Bruce my Boxer has never attacked a human at all and hes a agressive dog but, but only to GSD,Iits because he was attacked by one when he was only 6mths old but he did have his revenge when he was 2 yrs old he tore that same dogs neck and was actually locked onto his neck it took three of us to pull him of the GSD people in the society said it was like two lions fighting people were in their balconys watching the fight and this GSD was huge and in the bargain my mother-inlaw got bitten by the GSD thru jeans on her leg 4 holes up till now Bruce goes mad if he sees the same dog as we have changed our house.
But when Payams dog a tiny little thing which would fit perfectly in bruce's mouth attacked him Bruce didnt do a thing they say its not about the size of the dog its his bite and bruce is very calm with my 4yr old son bruce is like his guardian angel and JD loves him now my son is following his dads foot steps he wants me to get him a Rott and belive me my son knows what a Rott is and he loves them, But my wife says if a rott comes ur dad goes out but there are ways Heeeee , Man its how u bring up a dog even a poodle can be made a attack dog the only time I put a chain around bruces neck is when he has to go down he dosent even wear a collar at home nothing and thats why he is so cool Praise God for me Bruce is less dog and more son
cheers guys ( Sorry I went over board )

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Little Athos will be 10 months old tomorrow. This pic was taken a week ago.
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