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A Bangalore - Pondicherry Trip, an Accident-mishap while return, saved because of Dashcam recording

Note: Please excuse me, this is mostly a text loaded travelogue with less pictures and sharing of my experience in detail. Will try add in pictures later as and when possible.

This is for sharing my recent experience while travelling with my family, my brother and family together in my Mahindra Scorpio. This was part of a long week end trip we had planned from Bangalore to Pondicherry, on the occasion of Vinayaka Chathurthy on Monday 5th Sep 2016.

A bit about our trip to Pondicherry.
Wifey and my 7 year old Son, and my brother, his wife, his 10 year old son were all geared up for the week end trip to Pondicherry. We reviewed our Team-BHP Pondicherry travellogues, route suggestions and hotel and sightseeing suggestions. Also the Tripadvisor was much handy and many things we considered based on that. We had decided we wanted to do some trip, but place was not finalised well in advance. Toggling between Goa (ruled out due to off-season), Mangalore (had to do the trip near future again and hence ruled out). Finally leading to Pondy and started searching for accommodation there. Reading reviews and looking at availability - went ahead with the hotel Sunway Manor which has a top 5 rating in Pondy on Tripadvisor. The decision was good and we enjoyed our stay there for 2 nights on 3rd and 4th Sep nights.

Route and travel: Started from Whitefield - Bangalore on Saturday 3rd Sep 6 AM. My Son was awake from 4:30 AM itself. All packing was done the previous day and we quickly loaded the luggage in the scorpio and started from my place. On the way picked up my brother and his family some 10 KM away and the journey started by 6:45 AM from his home. The route we took onwards and return was Whitefield, Bangalore - Kolar - Mulbagal - Chittoor - Ranipet - Vandavasi - Tindivanam - Pondycherry, with some 6 hours and 10 minutes aprox running time as per Google Maps. This was default route suggestion by Google maps also, mostly due to our location in Bangalore, Whitefield. The route is more or less good, mix of 4 lane and 2 lane roads, only 4 tolls (one way and less charges also). Due to our frequent travel on Bangalore - Salem - Palakkad NH route and the availability of many good restaurants, the only setback we felt was the availability of such restaurants on this route. However restaurants does exist and we just have to travel some distance and watch out.

7:45 AM approx, stopped at Vasudev Adigas, a bit further ahead of Kolar, on the right side of the highway (on the left side a new McDonalds and Dominos also has opened up). We picked on a combo breakfast which includes a bit of everything (Idly, Vada, Karabath, Kesribath, Masala Dosa and Coffe) all for 110 Rs/plate. Rest of the journey was smooth and my brother and me interchanged driving. There were no traffic jams enroute and except some slow moving large trucks on some part of the highway, we reached Pondy and faced some amount of traffic within the city. Google maps helped us reach our hotel directly without any hassles. Checked in the hotel at around 1 PM, left the luggage in the room and came down to the restaurant for lunch.

About Sunway Manor Hotel @ Pondy:
Sunway Manor Hotel has the top 5 ranking on Tripadvisor and situated almost on one end of 100 ft road. They claim, it is not just a hotel, however it is not for someone who is looking for a resort kind of experience or a beach experience. It is around 2-3 KM far from the nearest beach. Also there are no other small/good restaurants at walkable distance, which means you will have to stick to the hotel food in case you are just staying there. Breakfast is included in the charges we pay. We had lunch on the first day, dinner on both nights from there. They have 2 restaurants, one which offers buffet for lunch another one lower floor which has ala-carte options. We felt if we go with ala-carte options, charges came down significantly. It is a 3 star hotel and restaurant and is a bit expensive on food, however the food is tasty and good, we liked it through out. For a group of 4 adults and 2 kids, we paid around 1100-1200 per dinner and the buffet lunch on first day came to some 3K INR. It also has a pool and spa. We used the swimming pool on the second day and we need to carry the swimming costume, or you can buy from there.

Exploring Pondy and things we did:
Day 1: On first day, 3rd Sep, after lunch we started our exploration, we wanted to see Paradise beach. We came to know it is some 3 -4 km away from hotel and asked for an auto. 4 adults and 2 kids were taken in one auto and they have customized the auto with a small row seat for kids inside. One of us had to sit on the front, along with the driver.

Drop was till the ticket counter, where there is a boat ride till Paradise beach, auto charged 200 Rs. On reaching the counter, it was told that the beach is closed for maintenance and only allowed was plain boat ride back and forth. We opted for the boat ride since we didn't know what else to do. Upon speaking to the driver of the boat, the beach is closed due to some staff issue thy are having, ad we can still go to the beach through some other route. After completing the boat ride, we called another auto from there and he agreed for a drop to the beach, wait for an hour and drop back till the hotel for 500 Rs. We went ahead and proceeded towards the beach. It is called Chinnaveeram beach. Kids played in the sea for some time and it was nice and enjoyable. Returned back to the hotel by 7:30 PM. Had dinner at hotel.

Day 2: Wanted to see sunrise, so woke up by 5 AM and went to the same Chinnaveeram beach since we were familiar with the place, took the scorpio and went. There weren't many people around and we couldn't see sunrise properly, due to cloud. Went back to the hotel and had breakfast. Asked for a cab and we got 2 options - Maruti Desire car for 4 hours is 1200 Rs and 8 Hrs 2200 Rs. We opted for 8 hours and this was a good decision. Car came at 9:30 AM and we went to the following places:
> Auroville - spent some 1.5 hours seeing the place and walking around. It is worth going there in case you are ok to walk or cycle
> Aurobindo Ashram
> Museum
> Rocky beach and Gandhi statue, some walking around.
> French Colony, just drive around and see the places
> Lunch at Cafe exstacy, based on some feedback reviews. Figured out that they have a branch in Indiranagar, Bangalore too. Anyways nice wood-fire pizzas there. had to wait for 30-40 minutes after making an entry after reaching the cafe
> Auro beach, it was just another beach at Pondy
> Sunday Shopping Market
> Headed back to the hotel at 5 PM with a day well spent. This was only possible because of the hired-car and driver taking us around.
> Went to the swimming pool @ hotel and spent some time with kids
> Had dinner @ hotel restaurant and went to bed

Day 3: We thought of going to see sunrise again however finally decided against. Anyways in the morning it was cloudy so it was the right decision, couldn't have been able to see sunrise mostly. Had breakfast and started packing the bags. Checked out at 11 AM and started the return trip by refueling from Pondy. Diesel was approx 2 Rs/litre cheaper than Bangalore.

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Eventful Return: Start of the journey, my brother was at the wheel. Driving slowly and steadily, cruising around 60-80 km/hr speed, except some small town and villages enroute. We wanted to have a late lunch on the way so started searching for one post 1:30 PM. There was nothing to be seen and even small shops seems closed due to the festival. Slowly we started to feel the hunger and desperately searching for one hotel. At one point we saw a board of a restaurant 8 KM away on another road and even thought of taking that route just to eat. However continued on our route and found one MGM resorts @ Ranipet, went in straight and had lunch. There was no meals available somehow, we went for rotis and some veg curry. Food was tasty, however expensive to the standards. The place is neat and clean. However on exiting the place saw a handful of other restaurants immediately one after the other (typically happens with us). It was almost 3:30 PM by then.

Post lunch from MGM, I was at the wheel, and started driving. Started cruising slowly, all of a sudden, from the right, a guy wearing a white shirt and riding a motor bike, came crossing the road. I could see that he is looking at the scorpio, but not giving any signals. I slowed down, and moved towards left and he quickly move there as well. I apply breaks but couldn't stop hitting him, and making him fall down. All these happens in flash of seconds. This was my first accident from the last 10 plus years of driving.


For a moment, I couldnt see the guy and my first thought was what-if he has gone under the wheel? Was just praying, in no time a crowd gathers and I come out of the car. My brother was on the passenger seat, 2 ladies and 2 kids on the middle row seat. Kids started crying seeing the accident for the first time and seeing the crowd. I started speaking in Tamil, thanks to my college days in TN, luckily there was no panic reaction from the crowd. One guy (with the cap in the picture) came and asked where are you going, I said Bangalore, he took the car key and went. I looked at the bike, it was lying in front of my scorpio. Searched for the bike-guy, he was no where to be seen. People were blocking my movement, trying to talk to me something or the other, the bike-guy was not to be seen. The cap-guy who took the key, came back saying you cant go anywhere. I said I am not going anywhere. Suddenly saw the bike-guy was sitting in front of the shop, looking at the scratches on his hand. He stood up, and started cleaning the wounds with a cloth, it was - BIG RELIEF for me! Nothing major has happened to him, except a few scratches on his both hands and elbows. I asked him can I take to the hospital, he was not in a mood to talk to me. He was moving away from me.

By this time, majority of the crowd started saying that it was not my fault and the fault was from the bike rider. A bit of commotion took place between the guy who took my keys and some other who were trying to take our side. Then this guy returns the keys and ask me to leave. I said, I am not going without a proper consent from the guy who was riding the bike. This guy seems annoyed, took back the key and moved away.

One new guy suddenly comes and shows me some documents and say the bike belong to him. I said I don't want to see his papers, but want to talk to the guy who met with the accident and take him to hospital first. One another person says police has been called.

Within few minutes, 2 policemen arrives, I told them that I was the driver of scorpio. They look at me speaking in Tamil, and they talk to the bike guy also. Then people started telling the policemen that it was the bike rider's fault, and not mine. Police tells me that I need to go the police station to sort out the matter. I said I am coming there. One cop gets inside the car and we take the vehicle. People move the fallen bike from the front and move away. Another Big relief for me, no commotion and fatalities, luckily. This cop started talking to me, asking what happened. I said I was driving, starting from MGM resorts, some less than 5 minutes before, the bike rider was riding on the right side of the road, suddenly crossed the road and I couldn't stop my car before hitting the bike. He said that is what he heard from the crowd also, and I need to explain this to the SI at the police station. I said, I can. And my word, "sir I can show you the video of the incident also" was the final relief from the cop saying, then there wont be any issues we will close the matter quickly.

Even though I had not cross verified the video of this particular incident in my dashcam, I was familiar with the dashcam and I was 100% sure that the video would have been recorded, even though the guy took away the key from the car abruptly. My dashcam has Wifi feature, enable me to transfer the video to my cell phone through an App, however due to the time pressure and nervousness, we took away the camera itself to the police station. Switched on the cam (it comes with additional battery power) and searched for the video, which was the last one in the memory. Video was about starting the drive from the MGM resorts and the journey less than 4 minutes before this incident. It was clearly evident the guy crossed all of a sudden and what I have done was the best possible in this situation. Showed it to the police men at the station, who clearly mention that it is his fault. 2 people who came to support the bike guy also didn't have any contention.
Tip to the dashcam owners: Do verify that the dashcam can record the video in crucial times also when power shutdown happens abruptly. It should be able to save the current video and shut down gracefully. Also there must be some provision to retrieve the video and show it to others. Do practice it few times with your Dashcam to ensure that you are covered, even after having a Dashcam in your car.

While we were going to the station, the bike guy along with the friend had gone to the nearby clinic, as per the advice from the police and they had dressed his wounds/scratches and came to the station with his 2 friends. He started talking saying he agrees that it was his fault, that was the reason he was not talking at the time of the incident. Also the crowd gathered were mostly drunk and there was no point in talking. He said however the bike belonged to his friend, and he will need to repair it and incur some expenses for that. Others also said the same thing to pay off some amount and settle the matter there itself.

Me and my brother had a quick talk. Firstly, we were relieved that nothing major had happened to his guy. Otherwise things could have been more worse. Then the issue has not gone beyond a level, no hitting us or damaging the car etc. And finally if any other route is taken, it will be difficult for us. We agreed to pay some amount for his bike repair and paid. We paid a bit less than what he asked for, first he was not agreeing, then finally he agreed. We paid, went back to the station and the policemen gave us a copy of the letter written by the bike rider that he is amicably settling the matter of the accident and there are no complaints. however the letter is written is Tamil and I cant read Tamil so am not fully sure about it. But it was a statements the policemen was telling the guy to write, clearly telling him to write that he crossed the road causing the accident. After we paid, the guys along with him talked to us nicely and all dispersed off. We resumed our journey, thanking god, and our stars.

Rest of the journey was uneventful, we didnt stop anywhere, and reached home by 8 PM, some 2 hours late than planned. Everyone was slowly getting back to normal, from the event that shook us all of a sudden. I have saved the videos in my phone and laptop, since it will be overwritten in my dashcam.

Scorpio has some minor bruises on the front right side of the bumper. It also has a slight bent, just a little. Using a paint polish solution with a mild cloth, 80% os the scratch went away on my first attempt after reaching home. I will need to take to my friendly garage for inspection and assess any further damages inside and check wheel alignment issues, if any. We didnt observe any issues on the drive back, however just to be doubly sure.

Lesson Learnt:
> Accidents can happen, even when you are driving slowly/how much careful we are
> When it happens, do not run away, face it. CALMLY
> Find out the local police contact number and call the local police for help, immediately
> If possible, talk the local language (my mother tongue is Not Tamil, but I can manage speaking). Try to be soft. Egos and body language may hurt at this point.
> If possible, try your best to offer medical aid to the victim. They may not agree. But TRY, it is needed.
> Travelling with family and Kids had some influence on this accident. People's reaction changed when they saw kids crying
> Having a Dashcam helped me big time. There was no dispute about your fault vs mine. Ensure you disclose about your dashcam to the right people at the right time.

Posting some random pics from Pondicherry.

And Some pics from the Accident.
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Thread moved from the Assembly Line (The "Assembly Line" Forum section) to Street Experiences. Thanks for sharing!
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Thanks for sharing. Dashcam clips are quite good. I have been reading these kind of stories a lot nowadays and even I had a similar kind of accident as yours couple of months back.

Mine was at Dobaspet (enroute Tumkur) and I was going below the flyover and a bike guy suddenly came to the center of my way from the other side of the road, since there was a flyover wall, there was no way I could have seen him. To cut short, crowd gathered as usual putting blame on me, but ultimately we paid couple of hundreds and left the place. Luckily, biker was not injured and there were some repairs needed to the bike.

I guess now it's time to do some R&D and get a dashcam.

Which one is yours and where did you get it from. Good if you can share a link, if possible.

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I am glad that nothing major/untoward happened. From my limited experience dealing with these issues and wasting time, remember to drive defensively. The moment you see an object/obstruction on your track (even if its a stone) slow down heavily or just stop.

Don't worry much about the scorpio, he will be fine soon.
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Criky. Dashcam certainly made matters easier with the cops. One has to be absolutely aware of the mob as things do get taken away. So best thing to do is ensure your family is secure lock the door and ensure a spare key is with one of your family members during emergency. Thanks for sharing and I'm also interested to know which make of dashcam is yours and if you could post a link that would be great. The one you got looks to have some really clear captures.
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I guess now it's time to do some R&D and get a dashcam.

Which one is yours and where did you get it from. Good if you can share a link, if possible.

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Thanks for sharing and I'm also interested to know which make of dashcam is yours and if you could post a link that would be great. The one you got looks to have some really clear captures.
Thank you.

My Dashcam is SJCAM SJ4000 WiFi, bought from Aliexpress more than 1 year back. I have 2 Dashcam (same model) one on the front and one on the back. Continuous recording when ever the car engine starts and stops recording automatically when car power turned off.

Some of my DASHCAM experience I had shared in the regular Dashcam thread: here (The Dashcam / Car Video Recorder (DVR) Thread)
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And Some pics from the Accident.
It would be nice if you can post the actual dashcam footage for readers' reference.
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It would be nice if you can post the actual dashcam footage for readers' reference.
Sure, will try, only issue is that the less than 5 minute video is 482 MB and in MOV format. Unfortunately I am not having any video editing tools currently. The images I have posted about the accident are from the Video itself, and not images captured by Cam.
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Sure, will try, only issue is that the less than 5 minute video is 482 MB and in MOV format. Unfortunately I am not having any video editing tools currently. The images I have posted about the accident are from the Video itself, and not images captured by Cam.
You can upload and edit on YouTube itself.
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Glad that all of you came out of this unharmed. I follow a simple rule to avoid morons like this, the moment I see a two wheeler which is not in a straight line, I slow down to a speed where I can stop my vehicle as is. I also keep a check on their face, if they are trying to look back, they are definitely coming your way.

Personally, this was a much needed wake up call. I am starting for my 2500 kms road trip this Saturday and I am definitely going to be more careful.
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Glad to hear that nothing untoward happened.

In these kind of situations(two wheeler crossing at an angle), it would be better to go behind the two-wheeler/right side rather than going in his direction as he is already in an angle. But again, opp lane should be empty and no one should be overtaking you at that point of time.

And in my experience, people crossing the road at an angle will never stop. They will expect you to slow-down or brake.

Safest option is to brake straight away to stop before the spot.

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as suggested by someone here, when i encounter these kind of situations, even i always go behind on the right side (if possible) or else, i would stop completely and then move on. I will never assume that the opposite person would stop.
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One question I have - if it is proven beyond any doubt that the fault was completely the other guy's, why should you be expected to pay for any damages to the motorcycle? In fact, he's the one who should be paying for any damage to your car!

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Sure, will try, only issue is that the less than 5 minute video is 482 MB and in MOV format. Unfortunately I am not having any video editing tools currently. The images I have posted about the accident are from the Video itself, and not images captured by Cam.
If 482MB is too much to upload over wifi try this.

Send the mov file to another phone in your household using watsapp over wifi. You can even trim the length while sending video and video gets compressed in your phone itself as you send. Now upload the received file to youtube, resolution will take a hit but will still be clear enough.
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