The tyre eating swift

morten · 23rd August 2006, 16:31

Hi guys,my friend has jan 2006 swift .it came with jk tyres the tyres only lasted 8000 km and all the grooves dissapeared and they became slick tyres.the company replaced the tyres and michelins 185 70r14 were put in the car but the tyres lasted only 13000 kms .jtthe a

low_bass_makker · 23rd August 2006, 16:33

is the tyre going from inside or the outside or the whole tyre is gone....

and do post the pics as it will help more in understanding the problem....

over or under air pressure can also cause this problem....

morten · 23rd August 2006, 16:44

hi lbm ,the tyres go from the outside towards the inside and the whole tyre is gone and the steel wires come out from outside of the tyre. The strange thing is rear tyres also go the same way.the tyre pressure was always maintained to 29-30.the alignment and camber was always ok.i guess the car is defective but cant tell what is wrong.

Jaggu · 23rd August 2006, 16:51

Jan to Sept (8+13) 21k kms, thats a lot of kms in 8 months. are us sure it hasnt got any suspension damage or chasis damage while at this many kms?? hope alignment check was done with proper aligning machine? post pic would help though this sound like huge camber off set..

morten · 23rd August 2006, 17:04

the problem was from the first day only. The alignment was also done on the proper machine and interval.all the usual checkups was done but there is some massive defect because the rear tyres also go the same way .i cant post the pics right now but the tyres are absolutely worn out and the wires come out from outside of the tyre.

hellspawn · 23rd August 2006, 17:19

how does your friend drive.if he is into excessive burnouts or bunny hops from the red light then the tyres would get worn out.
did you not get the cra checked at the dealer,did they say anything?

gbpscars · 23rd August 2006, 17:20

JK ripped in 8k, Michelin ripped in 13k!!!!

May be your friend does drifts and donuts on tarmac.

If everything else on the machine is right, check the driver.

Shan2nu · 23rd August 2006, 17:29

If the tyres are wearing out from the outside, this can mean you've got positive camber, toe in or have been cornering a bit too hard.

Tyres should generally show more wear inside, due to the slight negative camber settings.

If you're wearing out tyres in the 8k to 13k range, you've got serious problems mate. The stock bloody S322s on my Vtec lasted for 47K kms and the new GIIIs are in perfect condition after 13K.

Shan2nu

low_bass_makker · 23rd August 2006, 17:42

car aligment and driving style is the culprit........

morten · 23rd August 2006, 17:49

the driving style is ok.had a zen before and the tyres lasted for 35-40000 km. The alignment,camber is always ok.guess the car has some defect .

Sideways · 23rd August 2006, 17:52

What rims does he have. If he is running with rims which have too much offset then this can happen. also is he carrying any heavy loads in his car ? Too much load and the springs wont be able to take it, leading to tyre ware. If all this and camber and toe settings are all ok, then the car in my opinion has a defect.

Surprise · 23rd August 2006, 18:02

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Originally Posted by morten

tyre pressure was always maintained to 29-30

Is it not the recommended pressure 33 psi?

Jaggu · 23rd August 2006, 18:24

3 psi less wont cause such wear, this is serious problem

morten · 23rd August 2006, 18:33

the rims are stock not alloys. The car is run with one or two passenger load .

ravibhat · 23rd August 2006, 19:15

Tyre Pressure between 29 and 33 is ideal for swift, I maintain around 32 for my swift.

I blasted dealer BIMAL auto agency because the swift they had sold me measuring 40+ as tyre pressure when I took the delivery of brand new swift which I call "Disappointment of the year 2006" and I also checked if vehicle has run some distance when I checked tyre pressure but I came to know only couple of kilometres. I checked early morning as well next day and tyre pressure was above 38. They said sorry and checked all tyres and made the tyre pressure around 32.

Regards,

Ravi.

23rd August 2006, 16:31	#1
morten BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: chandigarh Posts: 116 Thanked: 2 Times View My Garage	The tyre eating swift Hi guys,my friend has jan 2006 swift .it came with jk tyres the tyres only lasted 8000 km and all the grooves dissapeared and they became slick tyres.the company replaced the tyres and michelins 185 70r14 were put in the car but the tyres lasted only 13000 kms .jtthe a
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23rd August 2006, 16:33	#2
low_bass_makker Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Faridabad Posts: 6,813 Thanked: 306 Times View My Garage	is the tyre going from inside or the outside or the whole tyre is gone.... and do post the pics as it will help more in understanding the problem.... over or under air pressure can also cause this problem....
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23rd August 2006, 16:44	#3
morten BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: chandigarh Posts: 116 Thanked: 2 Times View My Garage	hi lbm ,the tyres go from the outside towards the inside and the whole tyre is gone and the steel wires come out from outside of the tyre. The strange thing is rear tyres also go the same way.the tyre pressure was always maintained to 29-30.the alignment and camber was always ok.i guess the car is defective but cant tell what is wrong.
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23rd August 2006, 16:51	#4
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,379 Thanked: 17,321 Times	Jan to Sept (8+13) 21k kms, thats a lot of kms in 8 months. are us sure it hasnt got any suspension damage or chasis damage while at this many kms?? hope alignment check was done with proper aligning machine? post pic would help though this sound like huge camber off set..
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23rd August 2006, 17:04	#5
morten BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: chandigarh Posts: 116 Thanked: 2 Times View My Garage	the problem was from the first day only. The alignment was also done on the proper machine and interval.all the usual checkups was done but there is some massive defect because the rear tyres also go the same way .i cant post the pics right now but the tyres are absolutely worn out and the wires come out from outside of the tyre.
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23rd August 2006, 17:19	#6
hellspawn Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: noida Posts: 1,686 Thanked: 9 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/1 (10)	how does your friend drive.if he is into excessive burnouts or bunny hops from the red light then the tyres would get worn out. did you not get the cra checked at the dealer,did they say anything?
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23rd August 2006, 17:20	#7
gbpscars BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Navi Mumbai Posts: 401 Thanked: 5 Times	JK ripped in 8k, Michelin ripped in 13k!!!! May be your friend does drifts and donuts on tarmac. If everything else on the machine is right, check the driver.
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23rd August 2006, 17:29	#8
Shan2nu Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hubli - Karnata Posts: 5,533 Thanked: 127 Times View My Garage	If the tyres are wearing out from the outside, this can mean you've got positive camber, toe in or have been cornering a bit too hard. Tyres should generally show more wear inside, due to the slight negative camber settings. If you're wearing out tyres in the 8k to 13k range, you've got serious problems mate. The stock bloody S322s on my Vtec lasted for 47K kms and the new GIIIs are in perfect condition after 13K. Shan2nu
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23rd August 2006, 17:42	#9
low_bass_makker Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Faridabad Posts: 6,813 Thanked: 306 Times View My Garage	car aligment and driving style is the culprit........
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23rd August 2006, 17:49	#10
morten BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: chandigarh Posts: 116 Thanked: 2 Times View My Garage	the driving style is ok.had a zen before and the tyres lasted for 35-40000 km. The alignment,camber is always ok.guess the car has some defect .
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23rd August 2006, 17:52	#11
Sideways BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Madras - India Posts: 639 Thanked: 32 Times View My Garage	What rims does he have. If he is running with rims which have too much offset then this can happen. also is he carrying any heavy loads in his car ? Too much load and the springs wont be able to take it, leading to tyre ware. If all this and camber and toe settings are all ok, then the car in my opinion has a defect.
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23rd August 2006, 18:24	#13
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,379 Thanked: 17,321 Times	3 psi less wont cause such wear, this is serious problem
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23rd August 2006, 18:33	#14
morten BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: chandigarh Posts: 116 Thanked: 2 Times View My Garage	the rims are stock not alloys. The car is run with one or two passenger load .
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23rd August 2006, 19:15	#15
ravibhat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,250 Thanked: 37 Times View My Garage	Tyre Pressure between 29 and 33 is ideal for swift, I maintain around 32 for my swift. I blasted dealer BIMAL auto agency because the swift they had sold me measuring 40+ as tyre pressure when I took the delivery of brand new swift which I call "Disappointment of the year 2006" and I also checked if vehicle has run some distance when I checked tyre pressure but I came to know only couple of kilometres. I checked early morning as well next day and tyre pressure was above 38. They said sorry and checked all tyres and made the tyre pressure around 32. Regards, Ravi.
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