Fuel Pump Failure

rakowli · 1st July 2008, 15:58

Hey i have Ford Ikon Flair 2007 model with 9000kms on ODO. My fuel pump failed on Sunday. It is like the fuel flow is not continous it is very less. Just want to check that is it becoz of Fuel pump failure or Fuel filter getting clogged. I am suprised with fuel filter failure. PLease help. Anyhow i will be changed the fuel pump tommorrow but just want to know if anyone has faced this problem.

GTO · 1st July 2008, 16:32

Fords have a notorious reputation for blown fuel pumps. However, you mention that fuel flow is *less*? Whatever dead pumps I have seen, the flow was an absolute zero. It could be a clogged fuel filter in your case.

Also, did you run your car low on fuel recently? Most modern fuel pumps are lubricated by the fuel itself, and running the tank dry makes the fuel pump go kaput.

Your car is only a 2007 model. I presume this is going to covered by Ford warranty.

ab1xlr8 · 1st July 2008, 16:42

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rakowli · 1st July 2008, 17:14

I haven't taken the Extended warranty of Ford. I havent' run it on low fuel anytime. I normal keep it above 1/4 mark of the tank but this time the tank was half full. Also my mechanic has changed the fuel pump and he said that the fuel pump has burnt also one more thing he said is that fuel flow is still not proper so maybe becoz of that the fuel pump burnt. He is going to check the fuel filter and lines tommorrow as becoz of heavy rains today he could not complete the work.

1100D · 2nd July 2008, 02:51

My Ikon (though a 1.6) had this as a recurring issue. Had changed pumps 5 times over a period of 2.5 years. The last time, they chaged the pump to a different design, which they claimed was the Escort specification pump.

rakowli · 4th July 2008, 11:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTO

Fords have a notorious reputation for blown fuel pumps. However, you mention that fuel flow is *less*? Whatever dead pumps I have seen, the flow was an absolute zero. It could be a clogged fuel filter in your case.

Also, did you run your car low on fuel recently? Most modern fuel pumps are lubricated by the fuel itself, and running the tank dry makes the fuel pump go kaput.

Your car is only a 2007 model. I presume this is going to covered by Ford warranty.

Hey GTO,
the problem was becoz for low fuel as my fuel gauge had gone kaput and i could not know when my fuel was low as it always was above 1/4 mark. so now have to change the fuel gauge also. Becoz of low fuel and dirt in the tank my fuel pump burnt.

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Thanks for your help and advices by all.
Rakesh

GTO · 5th July 2008, 11:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by rakowli

Hey GTO,
the problem was becoz for low fuel as my fuel gauge had gone kaput and i could not know when my fuel was low as it always was above 1/4 mark.

Aha! Thats the no.1 cause of fuel pump failure....running a tank dry. Its best to fill up the tank when it reaches the 1/2 mark.

BTW, the fuel gauge problem seems to be common in Ikons. My brother had a similar issue on his drive back from Panchgani; the gauge showed 1/4 but the car stalled due to zero fuel.

rakowli · 6th July 2008, 11:12

in between do anybody know the cost of Ford Ikon(Mar 2007)(am stating this becoz there where different versions of this car with some having different pump & gauge and some having combined pump & gauge) fuel pump & gauge kit. My car has both together so i cannot change only one. and the cost of the kit is 12k which is very high. that too no warranty and made in taiwan brand. please help me if there is any other brand which is cheaper. it looks like Ford company is ripping customers with a low quality parts selling at higher rates. As of now i have started my car and driving it without fuel gauge.

rakowli · 11th July 2008, 11:13

Do anybody have idea about Sparemart online site for spare parts which is based in Delhi. Are they good. I enquired about the fuel pump and gauge for my car. they are charging only Rs. 3800/- and thats cheap compared to 12k by Ford. But just what to check on the review of this shop. They are going to send me the pictures of the pump because i told them about different versions of Ikon.

rakowli · 17th July 2008, 10:57

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rakowli · 30th September 2008, 15:37

Atlast i got the fuel pump & gauge changed on Sunday 28sep. i got fuel pump in Kurla-CST only for Rs. 2000/-. It is working fine. So good i was patient and i waited.

Mods please close this thread. Thank You.

babe_on_wheels · 19th October 2008, 11:53

Hey I just faced with a pretty Dangerous dilemma yesterday with my car on the highway!
Was driving on the highway from some place and then the car just stopped responding to the throttle on the FAST LANE ON A FLYOVER. It couldnt be cranked again.
And just the morning I had refuelled the car Full Tank!
I checked the Fuses to check for fuel pump fuse and it seemed fine.
The ford guy came in to check that there was no fuel to the engine.
Afer he fiddled around with some fuses and the fuel line the car came back to life.

Now I am really trying to understand if it was FUEL PUMP problem or is it THE DIRT that clogged the FUEL FILTER after refuelling or is it a faulty FUSE BOX?

FORD has really put in a situation of REPLACE ALL! It getting really heavy on my POCKET!

DarkEraser · 19th October 2008, 12:54

I found the technical side:

Quote:

In one of our journeys our car halted after a fuel filling session, the reason: since we filled the petrol till brim, a vaccume was created & the fuel pump was unable to suck fuel. Got it cleared using a footpump

Source: A Guide on Essentials of a Long Drive

kjlayal · 28th August 2009, 09:37

Hi !
I am a new member to this Forum. Although I am Engineer by profession but For last one year I am facing a very strange problem in my Car

Model: Ford Ikon Flair 1.3 Petrol
Engine: Rockam Type
Model : 2004
CNG Fitted kit ( LendeRenzo) without lamda Unit ( Installed by a Approved Vendor having ISO Certificate)

I have done 26,000Km on CNG & the kit is working fine, but after every 2-3 Month Fuel Pump goes Down. I took the vehicle to Harpreet Ford, & got the injector cleaned. They made an estimate of Rs17000 for New Fuel pump & New Petrol Filter. Also there is only 6 months warranty on pump. They also checked & found no other problem related to electrical or any mech fault.

I have seen lot of Ikons in Delhi working fine with CNG Kits (with & Without Lamda Unit) installed via Local but approved CNG Vendors.

I went to my local mechanic & changed the Fuel Pump motor for Rs1600. It worked very well for 2-3 months & again I have to get the Fuel Pump Motor changed. The reason is that after 2 months the Pump pressure goes down & the Engine starts knocking.

I did my research for weeks & came across a strange solution:-
In the Night Disconnect the Battery & next morning Connect the same. The Pump works fine , but this is not a prctical solution.
Does this mean
A) By doing so we are resetting the memory of the ECU Unit
B) By switching to CNG we disturb the Fucntioning of the ECU Unit
C) If Yes then why did the vehicle didn't report the failure for nearly 20000Km

Can someone suggest a Permanent Solution Please ?

KamalJeet

Jaggu · 28th August 2009, 10:32

When you run on CNG, does the circuit cut off the Fuel Pump? If NOT try doing that.

1st July 2008, 15:58	#1
rakowli BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 109 Thanked: 4 Times	Fuel Pump Failure Hey i have Ford Ikon Flair 2007 model with 9000kms on ODO. My fuel pump failed on Sunday. It is like the fuel flow is not continous it is very less. Just want to check that is it becoz of Fuel pump failure or Fuel filter getting clogged. I am suprised with fuel filter failure. PLease help. Anyhow i will be changed the fuel pump tommorrow but just want to know if anyone has faced this problem.
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1st July 2008, 16:32	#2
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 71,881 Thanked: 323,214 Times View My Garage	Fords have a notorious reputation for blown fuel pumps. However, you mention that fuel flow is less? Whatever dead pumps I have seen, the flow was an absolute zero. It could be a clogged fuel filter in your case. Also, did you run your car low on fuel recently? Most modern fuel pumps are lubricated by the fuel itself, and running the tank dry makes the fuel pump go kaput. Your car is only a 2007 model. I presume this is going to covered by Ford warranty.
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1st July 2008, 17:14	#4
rakowli BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 109 Thanked: 4 Times	I haven't taken the Extended warranty of Ford. I havent' run it on low fuel anytime. I normal keep it above 1/4 mark of the tank but this time the tank was half full. Also my mechanic has changed the fuel pump and he said that the fuel pump has burnt also one more thing he said is that fuel flow is still not proper so maybe becoz of that the fuel pump burnt. He is going to check the fuel filter and lines tommorrow as becoz of heavy rains today he could not complete the work.
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2nd July 2008, 02:51	#5
1100D Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Calcutta Posts: 4,390 Thanked: 4,117 Times View My Garage	My Ikon (though a 1.6) had this as a recurring issue. Had changed pumps 5 times over a period of 2.5 years. The last time, they chaged the pump to a different design, which they claimed was the Escort specification pump.
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6th July 2008, 11:12	#8
rakowli BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 109 Thanked: 4 Times	in between do anybody know the cost of Ford Ikon(Mar 2007)(am stating this becoz there where different versions of this car with some having different pump & gauge and some having combined pump & gauge) fuel pump & gauge kit. My car has both together so i cannot change only one. and the cost of the kit is 12k which is very high. that too no warranty and made in taiwan brand. please help me if there is any other brand which is cheaper. it looks like Ford company is ripping customers with a low quality parts selling at higher rates. As of now i have started my car and driving it without fuel gauge.
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11th July 2008, 11:13	#9
rakowli BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 109 Thanked: 4 Times	Do anybody have idea about Sparemart online site for spare parts which is based in Delhi. Are they good. I enquired about the fuel pump and gauge for my car. they are charging only Rs. 3800/- and thats cheap compared to 12k by Ford. But just what to check on the review of this shop. They are going to send me the pictures of the pump because i told them about different versions of Ikon.
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30th September 2008, 15:37	#11
rakowli BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 109 Thanked: 4 Times	Atlast i got the fuel pump & gauge changed on Sunday 28sep. i got fuel pump in Kurla-CST only for Rs. 2000/-. It is working fine. So good i was patient and i waited. Mods please close this thread. Thank You.
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19th October 2008, 11:53	#12
babe_on_wheels BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Thane Posts: 126 Thanked: Once	Ford Problem Again! Hey I just faced with a pretty Dangerous dilemma yesterday with my car on the highway! Was driving on the highway from some place and then the car just stopped responding to the throttle on the FAST LANE ON A FLYOVER. It couldnt be cranked again. And just the morning I had refuelled the car Full Tank! I checked the Fuses to check for fuel pump fuse and it seemed fine. The ford guy came in to check that there was no fuel to the engine. Afer he fiddled around with some fuses and the fuel line the car came back to life. Now I am really trying to understand if it was FUEL PUMP problem or is it THE DIRT that clogged the FUEL FILTER after refuelling or is it a faulty FUSE BOX? FORD has really put in a situation of REPLACE ALL! It getting really heavy on my POCKET!
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28th August 2009, 09:37	#14
kjlayal Newbie Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Delhi Posts: 2 Thanked: 0 Times	Ford Ikon 1.3Petrol Fuel Pump problem Hi ! I am a new member to this Forum. Although I am Engineer by profession but For last one year I am facing a very strange problem in my Car Model: Ford Ikon Flair 1.3 Petrol Engine: Rockam Type Model : 2004 CNG Fitted kit ( LendeRenzo) without lamda Unit ( Installed by a Approved Vendor having ISO Certificate) I have done 26,000Km on CNG & the kit is working fine, but after every 2-3 Month Fuel Pump goes Down. I took the vehicle to Harpreet Ford, & got the injector cleaned. They made an estimate of Rs17000 for New Fuel pump & New Petrol Filter. Also there is only 6 months warranty on pump. They also checked & found no other problem related to electrical or any mech fault. I have seen lot of Ikons in Delhi working fine with CNG Kits (with & Without Lamda Unit) installed via Local but approved CNG Vendors. I went to my local mechanic & changed the Fuel Pump motor for Rs1600. It worked very well for 2-3 months & again I have to get the Fuel Pump Motor changed. The reason is that after 2 months the Pump pressure goes down & the Engine starts knocking. I did my research for weeks & came across a strange solution:- In the Night Disconnect the Battery & next morning Connect the same. The Pump works fine , but this is not a prctical solution. Does this mean A) By doing so we are resetting the memory of the ECU Unit B) By switching to CNG we disturb the Fucntioning of the ECU Unit C) If Yes then why did the vehicle didn't report the failure for nearly 20000Km Can someone suggest a Permanent Solution Please ? KamalJeet
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28th August 2009, 10:32	#15
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,379 Thanked: 17,321 Times	When you run on CNG, does the circuit cut off the Fuel Pump? If NOT try doing that.
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