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Old 21st May 2008, 12:37   #1
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Hey Guys,

Last weekend I drove to Shimla in my 97 Carb Esteem, it did very well, on hills and plains both.

However when I wanted to visit Jakhu Temple, then it refused to climb even on the first gear. Infact all those Altos and Indicas were merrily chugging along.

What can be reason for this, a worn out clutch ? on plains I constantly touch 140+ in the same car.

Secondly, how can I improve the average of the car ? Oils are ok, filters are new, belts are new, spark plugs are fine.

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most probably its the clutch

and the clutch replacement will also contribute to improvement in the FE figure
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Hey Guys,

Last weekend I drove to Shimla in my 97 Carb Esteem, it did very well, on hills and plains both.

However when I wanted to visit Jakhu Temple, then it refused to climb even on the first gear. Infact all those Altos and Indicas were merrily chugging along.

What can be reason for this, a worn out clutch ? on plains I constantly touch 140+ in the same car.

Secondly, how can I improve the average of the car ? Oils are ok, filters are new, belts are new, spark plugs are fine.

Regards
Shashank
Shashank bhai, how was the trip... i can feel the pain you had while climbing !!

As said, Clutch seems to be worned out.. get it checked.

How much average did you got which you are seeking to improve further ??
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Shashank bhai, how was the trip... i can feel the pain you had while climbing !!

As said, Clutch seems to be worned out.. get it checked.

How much average did you got which you are seeking to improve further ??
I am only getting 10-12 kmpl...(City /Highway, AC on/Off)...

The thing that worries is, it easily went upto shimla, however it didn't even do 20 meters on Jakhu stretch...
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the climb up to jakhu is pretty steep. especisally if you take the forest road route where there is a sharp u turn on the incline
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Was then engine screaming even though no pickup? If yes then clutch is gone. It happened in my bike

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I cant think of anything else other than the clutch. How did the car behave on the way back ?
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However when I wanted to visit Jakhu Temple, then it refused to climb even on the first gear. Infact all those Altos and Indicas were merrily chugging along.
Last year when this happened to my Baleno, it turned out to be a crankshaft problem.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...my-baleno.html (Under-revving on my Baleno)
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I cant think of anything else other than the clutch. How did the car behave on the way back ?
Way back from where ? on that stretch it hardly climbed 20-30 meters...and after that I had to come back..however I climbed very well all the way to Shimla...

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Last year when this happened to my Baleno, it turned out to be a crankshaft problem.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/technical-stuff/24012-under-revving-my-baleno.html

I do not think, I have a crankshaft problem, because otherwise it did all the climibing very well.

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I meant on the way back home. As you have said already, the car was normal. Seems to be a clutch issue only. How much has the car done ?
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Did you get a burning smell. Was the engine revving but car not moving. If so then its clutch, otherwise its something else.
Moreover since you car reached 140+ I think something else has gone wrong
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I think it's to do with the clutch.

10 - 12 is the FE that an Esteem will give you.
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Did you get a burning smell. Was the engine revving but car not moving. If so then its clutch, otherwise its something else.
yes I got a severe smell, however we concluded that since we also used the hand break, that is the reason the smell was there.

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Moreover since you car reached 140+ I think something else has gone wrong
I guess you earlier statement nails it down to clutch...what do you mean by something else ?

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How much has the car done ?
Its less than 44K, Out of that I have done close to 9 k in last 5 months or so...

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10 - 12 is the FE that an Esteem will give you.
I have been told its around 15-17...and when I got this car 5 months back, I noted it to be around 14 kmpl ..
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i think the lime and chilli combo in the front of your car is worn out!! replace it along with the clutch.

you haven't told us how many people you were carrying in the car. since people are telling me that this place as such is really steep i think even if you had 6 people in the car with little luggage it would have struggled to get up there.

i think 10-12 is fairly reasonable for a car that old. and besides even the new esteems don't give more than 13-14 in the highways. you have also said you were doing 140kmph on the plains. that kinda speed band is not going to help you with your mileage.

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Last year when this happened to my Baleno, it turned out to be a crankshaft problem.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...my-baleno.html (Under-revving on my Baleno)
wasn't the problem in your car related to the crank position sensor refusing to let the engine revv up on an incline?? i know your crankshaft was gone but it was the sensor which refused to let the engine rev wasn't it?

anyway his car is a carb esteem so we can rule out sensor related issues.
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Ok burning smell definitely means clutch.
Something else could be a simple fuel delivery issue
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