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Old 25th February 2008, 19:09   #16
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its shivers, like left shakes then right side shakes, like in old amby etc.

Engine isn't damped well?
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... seriously considering to pick up one and then this Grande happened. It was really too tempting to see these parked side by side as mentioned above and hence, this post.

Both share the same engine (albeit in different state of tunes), made in the same factory, share a lot of common things and yet address different customer segments. I perhaps happen to be from the no man's land ( in these two segments) and hence, was thinking loudly at this forum to get opinions.
Thanks for your views. Pics and driving impressions will be posted soon.
Totally in the same boat! Unless the first few test drives/ownership reports indicate something to worry about, or in the flesh it looks much worse than in the pics (to my eyes, i.e.), I'm more or less committed to get one this year.
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I am still not convenced on the looks of the grand. Its too slab sided viewed side on, too narrow and too tall viewed from the back. Besides with a rising shoulderline the rear most windows are the size of a mouse hole.
See the images here:
PICTORIAL REVIEW: TATA SUMO GRANDE | Cubic Capacity

The Safari is lot more classy looking and would drive better too (They weigh almost similar, but Safari has more power and better suspension at the back) . I dont see any competiton b/w the two... although Scorpio should be worried.

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its shivers, like left shakes then right side shakes, like in old amby etc.
Used to happen in the first lot of Dicors (mine!) till they did a software upgrade and retrofitted the EGR.
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Used to happen in the first lot of Dicors (mine!) till they did a software upgrade and retrofitted the EGR.
Interesting stuff.

So 2.2L on Grande and Safari differs not only in torque and Bhp but also software that control the shiver?

or is it coz Safari's engine sit on hydraulic something?
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With ref to the pics on cubic capacity:
it looks a little wierd.
A santro-ish front, slabsided and the footstep jutting out, and why is the tail pipe hanging off like its missing a support.
or is it the blue color thats making it look wierd.

But the kit offered for the price in the gx is mouthwatering.
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Old 25th February 2008, 21:17   #22
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Used to happen in the first lot of Dicors (mine!) till they did a software upgrade and retrofitted the EGR.
That says 2 things -

1. Its probably easy to fix and newer lots wont have this problem
2. Tatas again launched a vehicle without taking care of all issues (grrrr...)
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I also happened to see both vehicles side by side at the show room and have posted my views on the Grande at other threads which I do not want to repeat. The major plus points for me are the front facing 3rd row, reclining middle row, 4 mulitidirectional AC vents for the 2nd and 3rd rows with lights for all three rows.

One more difference for serious off-roaders - the Safari has a 205mm ground clearance to the Sumo Grande's 180mm; or does it not matter?
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I am not able to post pics probably due to low bandwidth. Will try later.
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I am still not convenced on the looks of the grand. Its too slab sided viewed side on, too narrow and too tall viewed from the back. Besides with a rising shoulderline the rear most windows are the size of a mouse hole.
See the images here:
PICTORIAL REVIEW: TATA SUMO GRANDE | Cubic Capacity

The Safari is lot more classy looking and would drive better too (They weigh almost similar, but Safari has more power and better suspension at the back) . I dont see any competiton b/w the two... although Scorpio should be worried.
that was a good link. after seing all those pics, i guess he SUMO GRANDE looks good only from front and maybe front 3/4
moment u step to the sides or rear - its not very well executed..maybe if the rear came together in a more compact form - it would have been a killer !!

but i dont think the 3rd row window is as small as u make it out to be...!
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oh forgot to add - is body cladding offered on any variant ?
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Just testing. Mods please, delete it if its not working.

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Old 26th February 2008, 00:26   #28
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Just testing. Mods please, delete it if its not working.

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link works for me.......

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oh forgot to add - is body cladding offered on any variant ?
Sadly no....i also had the same feeling...body cladding or some stickering would have tremendously improved the side looks.

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1.Where in looks department, Safari is far better looking as compared to Sumo Grande and also more useful tail gate.

2. This is as big as it could look(Safari)

3. This is where Sumo grande has more upmarket look ( clean ceiling) with four vents for ac visible.



5. How do you get in to third row of seats. Is it convenient enough!. A prospective customer checking it.



6. The gear lever knob has been changed and has much better tactile feel and well designed. It actually felt better than the gear lever knob of Safari. But clutch pedal was tad hard as compared to that of Safari( may be because it was very less used till then).


7. The steering, is looking bit different in the pic,but material is bit soft to touch and felt good. two switches for horn on spokes.


8. The alloy wheels of Safari look so good.

9. Wheels that of Sumo Grande- Same size, make, specs but rims are of steel with wheel cover. Also , please, see the side steps- which are wider than that of Safari. and check the door handles too.


9. Side steps in Safari are more in line with the body and dont protrude out much n see handles slip.
10. Sumo- Side view towards front.


11. Safari : similar view.


12. No doubts Safari looks more refined -

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nice effort mr shatru. thanks.
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