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Old 22nd July 2008, 13:20   #1
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Hello,

Here are some pictures I took at a rally on Police ground, Pune more than 10 years ago. The pictures are digital photographs of some film photographs. So, they are rather poor quality (my apologies).
I am not sure if these fit in any other thread, so I am creating a new one.


These three were owened by Abbas Jasdanwalla.
1) 1908 Wolsley. This car celebrated it's centenary this year.
2) 1921 Austin 7. A very early 7 I must say, special body probably inspired by the 'ulster'.
3) a 1926 Mercedes 170V

will post the rest when the thread is created (I am a newbie)
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Also from Jasdanwalla, 1030 Pierce Arrow. Vijay Mallaya owns a similar car
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These were owned by Zaheer Vakil

1) 1931 Ford Model A
2) 1939 Buick 8 Roadmaster, a well documented car on this forum
3) a rare 1948 MG YT 4 seated
4) 1951 Chevrolet Deluxe
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Old 22nd July 2008, 13:42   #4
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1) 1947 Humber Pullman. Sattar Omer
2) 1947 Jaguar 1 1/2 litre. Mahendra Kalewar
3) 1948 Mercury 8. Pramod Talera
4) 1949 Desoto. Praful Talera
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1) Ex-Presedential 1971 Mercedes 600 then owned by the Poonawallas. I remember they paid 10 lakhs for it, it was featured in the Times.
2) 1966 Mercedes 230sl. Owner unknown
3) Mercedes 300 'Adenauer'. Owner unknown.
4) unknown pontoon
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1) 1937 Buick 8. Fali Heerji
2) 1947 Chrysler New Yorker. Fali Heerji
3) 1948 Buick 8. Gurkirat? Kaur, single owner.
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1) Chevrolet Corvette Stigray. Then Owned by Jasdanwalla. The first owner was the actor Mehmood.
2) The Telco Rolls Royce, 1929. Ex-Maharaja of Kankar(?)
At another Rally this car was incorrectly labeled as a Ghost. I said it was too small to be a Ghost. The telco representative was rather displeased with the word 'small' and raised questions regarding my sanity
3) 1940 Austin 10. Raju Paranjpe
4) 1946 Sunbeam Talbot. Owner not known
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1) 1932 Austin. Owner not known
2) 1964 Wolsley. Owner not known
3) Looks like a lotus. Owner not known
4) 1954 Piaggio. Owner not known
5) 1937 BSA 250cc. Owner not known
6) a Horse drawn carriage in immaculate condition !!! I have not recollection of the details or ownership.
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2) 1921 Austin 7. A very early 7 I must say, special body probably inspired by the 'ulster'.
Of course, something dosent add up about the Austin. The 7 was introduced in 1921. It had a painted radiator till the mid 20's. Probably just an incorrect restoration.

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Also from Jasdanwalla, 1030 Pierce Arrow. Vijay Mallaya owns a similar car
Please add 900 years to the age of the Pierce Arrow


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There was a Austin 7 Ulster replica being built at a place I worked in New Delhi in about 1984. The tail is slightly off centre and the owner had the aluminium castings for a dummy replica supercharger. I wonder if it is the same car.
I see there is a photo of the Tata 1925 RR 20hp GPK71 Barker Col Minchin which would be welcome in the RR thread.

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Hello,

Here are some pictures I took at a rally on Police ground, Pune more than 10 years ago. The pictures are digital photographs of some film photographs. So, they are rather poor quality (my apologies).
I am not sure if these fit in any other thread, so I am creating a new one.


These three were owened by Abbas Jasdanwalla.
1) 1908 Wolsley. This car celebrated it's centenary this year.
2) 1921 Austin 7. A very early 7 I must say, special body probably inspired by the 'ulster'.
3) a 1926 Mercedes 170V
Boy am I enjoying this thread! This was the first rally I ever attended, and dont have too many photos to remenisce. Now please come over to my house with these photos so we can trade stories and scan them. Can you remember the exact year? I think is was 93.

I dont recall seeing this very exciting Austin 7. Its never been shown again as far as I recall. The 170V is now green and carries an older regn (probably the original), Im assuming it is the same car as it too wears the same incorrect bumpers.

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These were owned by Zaheer Vakil

1) 1931 Ford Model A
2) 1939 Buick 8 Roadmaster, a well documented car on this forum
3) a rare 1948 MG YT 4 seated
4) 1951 Chevrolet Deluxe
The Ford and Buick are still with him. Not sure about the Chevy. The MG was parked at a bungalow walking distance from my place, not sure if he has sold it. It was featured in the movie "Zubeida" with the charismatic Lillete Dubey driving the car.

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1) 1947 Humber Pullman. Sattar Omer
2) 1947 Jaguar 1 1/2 litre. Mahendra Kalewar
3) 1948 Mercury 8. Pramod Talera
4) 1949 Desoto. Praful Talera
The Humber I saw in Koregaon Park in the late 90s i think. Haven't seen it since. The DeSoto is probably 47-48, I doubt it could be 49. The Mercury and DeSoto are still with the Taleras, Im not sure about the Jag.

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1) Ex-Presedential 1971 Mercedes 600 then owned by the Poonawallas. I remember they paid 10 lakhs for it, it was featured in the Times.
2) 1966 Mercedes 230sl. Owner unknown
3) Mercedes 300 'Adenauer'. Owner unknown.
4) unknown pontoon
The 230SL is Fali Dhondhy's, the 300 is Jasdanwalla's.

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1) 1937 Buick 8. Fali Heerji
2) 1947 Chrysler New Yorker. Fali Heerji
3) 1948 Buick 8. Gurkirat? Kaur, single owner.
The New Yorker was sold some years back, not sure on status of the Buick. Have ridden in this car when I was a kid, barely remember it. The 48 Buick I am happy to say still stands proudly in the driveway of the gorgeous bungalow of the owner.

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1) Chevrolet Corvette Stigray. Then Owned by Jasdanwalla. The first owner was the actor Mehmood.
2) The Telco Rolls Royce, 1929. Ex-Maharaja of Kankar(?)
At another Rally this car was incorrectly labeled as a Ghost. I said it was too small to be a Ghost. The telco representative was rather displeased with the word 'small' and raised questions regarding my sanity
3) 1940 Austin 10. Raju Paranjpe
4) 1946 Sunbeam Talbot. Owner not known
The Telco Rolls stands in a display at the factory with a big board proudly proclaiming it as a 1926 Silver Ghost. We must correct them.

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The Austin and Sunbeam are still with the same owners, though I doubt both have even been cleaned since this event, forget driven!

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1) 1932 Austin. Owner not known
2) 1964 Wolsley. Owner not known
3) Looks like a lotus. Owner not known
4) 1954 Piaggio. Owner not known
5) 1937 BSA 250cc. Owner not known
6) a Horse drawn carriage in immaculate condition !!! I have not recollection of the details or ownership.
The Wolseley is now in Hyderabad, and black, the Lotus is of Jasdanwalla. The Piaggio Im told is still alive, and my guess is its the only one surviving. I love it!

I think the carriage was Fali Heerji's, it had some Queen of England connection.
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WOW!! This is a magnificentt thread. Which Lotus is that?? I am head over heels in love with the Talbot!!
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The Wolseley is now in Hyderabad, and black,
Which would be this one, seen at the 3rd Feb. HAIG rally:


I would say the black suits her better!
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WOW!! This is a magnificentt thread. Which Lotus is that?? I am head over heels in love with the Talbot!!

lovely thread. i just love some of the cars.

the lotus Cyrus is an elan, a reletive of mine had a similar one and it used to stand and sometimes used by my father in his college days.

i have'nt seen this car in years does anyone know what has come of it (Abbas Jasdanwalla car). i know the corvette stands in a building behind mine and i have'nt seen it either.
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Now please come over to my house with these photos so we can trade stories and scan them.
Sounds good!! However, allow me to have the pictures reprinted on glossy paper first. These are not so great photographs on old and yellowing matt paper


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Can you remember the exact year? I think is was 93.
My god !!! was it that long ago? no wonder the kids in my building call me 'uncle' .
On a serious note, there is way we could find out. This rally was held around the time the Ponawallas bought the Presidential Mercedes. Does anybody remember when that was?



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The Humber I saw in Koregaon Park in the late 90s i think. Haven't seen it since. The DeSoto is probably 47-48, I doubt it could be 49. The Mercury and DeSoto are still with the Taleras, Im not sure about the Jag.
I remember seeing the Humber too. It was in a building opposite Arthur's Theme.
There is a rather shabby looking yellow american car in a garage on Sholapur road, I hope it is not the Talera Desoto.



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I think the carriage was Fali Heerji's, it had some Queen of England connection.
Queen Victoria never came, but George the fifth did in 1912. Perhaps he brought the carriage with him. Of course, it could have been brought to India on one of Queen Elizabeth's early visits, although that seems unlikely.
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