Team-BHP - Difference in the track width of the mm 550 ngcs .

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Originally Posted by ex670c (Post 2525845)

IIRC the FC is 58"and the MAXX Pickup is 59" :D.

hmm,,,

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So what are the Differential Off-Set Available with the above two FFRA's?

center diff for the 4x2 version & right offset for T18.

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Get your Axles ready and I will surely tell you what little I know.

so be ready for the questions.:D

rgds,
Nikhil

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Originally Posted by ex670c (Post 2525861)

Are you sure? and then what Type of Axle? :D

yes.

will search for one piece FFRA as i have BW TC. (looks like little left offset in pic :eek:)

there were some 2~3 sets (F+R) of FC 4x4 & 4x2 axles available here but didnt had money then.:Frustrati

rgds,
Nikhil

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Originally Posted by jeepster (Post 2525893)

yes.

will search for one piece FFRA as i have BW TC. (looks like little left offset in pic)

there were some 2~3 sets (F+R) of FC 4x4 & 4x2 axles available here but didnt had money then.

Hi Nikhil,

The 1 Piece FFRA are you sure its has a Left Off-Set, the picture is at an angle.

wrt the second pic, is the Axle marked by the red Arrow a 1 piece FFRA?

Regards,

Arka

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Originally Posted by ex670c (Post 2526487)

The 1 Piece FFRA are you sure its has a Left Off-Set, the picture is at an angle.

yes , after seeing pic i am not sure if it was one piece FFRA or with some left offset two piece FFRA.:Frustrati

but its used on 4x2 FC.

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wrt the second pic, is the Axle marked by the red Arrow a 1 piece FFRA?

no, the arrowed one has right offset for the 4x4 FC.

one at the bottom has left offset so it must be for the 4x2 FC.

rgds,
Nikhil

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Originally Posted by jeepster (Post 2526690)

no, the arrowed one has right offset for the 4x4 FC.

one at the bottom has left offset so it must be for the 4x2 FC.

Hi Nikhil,

Are you sure the one marked by arrow is Right off-Set for a 4x4 FC:D.

From the rear it may look like a left off-set for a 4x2 FCclap:.

Regards,

Arka

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Originally Posted by ex670c (Post 2527031)

Hi Nikhil,

Are you sure the one marked by arrow is Right off-Set for a 4x4 FC:D.

From the rear it may look like a left off-set for a 4x2 FCclap:.

yes,

if we rotate the arrowed axle to front in the same position, it becomes right offset used for 4x4 FC. (when we see it from the back:D)

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Originally Posted by jeepster (Post 2527047)

yes,

if we rotate the arrowed axle to front in the same position, it becomes right offset used for 4x4 FC. (when we see it from the back)

Hi Nikhil,

If we rotate the Axle along axis of the Axle Tube then the Spring Saddle will get repositioned for SUA.

And the Differential will get flipped, hence unusable.:D

Please observe the position of the Spring Saddle and Brake Lines.

Regards,

Arka

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Originally Posted by ex670c (Post 2527265)

If we rotate the Axle along axis of the Axle Tube then the Spring Saddle will get repositioned for SUA.

And the Differential will get flipped, hence unusable.:D

Please observe the position of the Spring Saddle and Brake Lines.

:Shockked: right.

so even 4x4 FC use a left offset axle??

how come??

the t18 has a out put to right & connection it to left offset axle will be not be a good idea.

rgds,
Nikhil

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Originally Posted by Frankenstein (Post 2527601)

If the axle is flipped and the diff becomes ulta, will it be not usable, i would like to learn on this subject.

IMHO & AFAIK it has some thing to do with the lubrication part ( will not be good for the pinion bearing lubrication )

also need to check if & how the direction of rotation of crown pinion affects performance ( or not )

I am not sure abt both the things , its just a thought -- you guys can think on it .

BTW something :OT but about using the FC axles in moded ( upgraded engined ) Jeeps ---
I have observed that the longer axle in a off set diff setup always tends to break early ( compared to the shorter ) , now if the FC axles are used , is there any chance they will break easily because of the longer length ?? ( assuming they are of same material & treatment like the standard Jeep ) -just a thought again not sure abt it , May be experts can guide us further

Sudarshan

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Originally Posted by Frankenstein (Post 2527601)

Arka the spring saddle can be re welded to the new location. If the axle is flipped and the diff becomes ulta, will it be not usable, i would like to learn on this subject.

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Originally Posted by Sudarshan (Post 2528002)

IMHO & AFAIK it has some thing to do with the lubrication part ( will not be good for the pinion bearing lubrication )

also need to check if & how the direction of rotation of crown pinion affects performance ( or not )

I am not sure abt both the things , its just a thought -- you guys can think on it .

BTW something but about using the FC axles in moded ( upgraded engined ) Jeeps ---
I have observed that the longer axle in a off set diff setup always tends to break early ( compared to the shorter ) , now if the FC axles are used , is there any chance they will break easily because of the longer length ?? ( assuming they are of same material & treatment like the standard Jeep ) -just a thought again not sure abt it , May be experts can guide us further

Sudarshan

Hi Sandep,

When the diff is flipped, there are two Problems

1) As Sudarshan JEE mentioned there is insufficient lubrication for the Pinion Gear.

2) AFAIK The Direction of Rotation of the Differential Changes, so instead of going forward the vehicle will go reverse:D

Regards,

Arka

PS - So diffs do the 4WD FC Vans use?