Let me try to help, but before that few questions.
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Originally Posted by abhisheksikka I drive a 2014 Thar CRDE without any mods or customisation whatsoever
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I'm shifting cities soon and will not be needing the car to offroad too much. |
So do you want to still hang on to Thar or open to replacement? If so do you have any budget in mind?
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I understand that its a tradeoff with offroad capabilities but I cant seem to find definitive content which can guide me to make a better decision.
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What is your expectation out of this? Make it like a sedan or make it ride just a little better?
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1) Is installing Composite leaf springs on the Thar CRDE an option? === If yes, should these only go on rear?
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It is available and for rear only, down side it can result in slight tranny vibration at acceleration since CFL ain't great for torsional rigidity, but the rear ride is marginally better.
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2) If not CFLs, are shock absorbers better for improving ride quality on city roads.
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Shocks will help reduce the roll (handling), more than the pitch (ride) though it will reduce pitch by better damping during rebound cycle.
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Originally Posted by Samurai If you do not have offroading needs anymore, and your spouse has spine problems, you should avoid band aid solutions like this. Consider switching from Thar to a used Duster. If you manage to get Duster AWD, it will also take care of moderate offroading. |
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Originally Posted by KA09_BIKER_GPER 1) Get an AT tire of same size. I switched from stock BS Dueler HT to Continental Cross Contact AT of same size and the ride quality has tremendously improved. The tire are able to absorb potholes quite well. Lowering tire pressure to around 30psi will give you a plush ride on ATs. |
Stick Dueller is bad, but anyday other good HT tyres are better wrt ride. Try michellin HT for best comfort.
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2) Inspect your IFS. If your IFS is set too high the ride will be bumpy. Too low and it will bottom out on the bump stops. The ideal IFS height would be 1-1.5 inches between the control arm and the upper bump stop.
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Absolutely, but unless you have made changes to it chances are its set stock. Since Abhishek mentioned it in opening post.
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4) CFL's are very soft and will give you plenty of body roll. Not sure how well they perform off road though!
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Not really they are not that soft also but compliment the stock softer fronts that Thar has.
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6) Try removing a leaf or two from the rear leaf set.
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Remove one leaf but you might loose the ride height ratio with front and if you try to correct that with cambering spring, it will be counter productive on ride front.
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Originally Posted by GTO Downsize your rim size to 15 inchers - that additional sidewall height will make a noticeable difference to the ride. In 15", you'll have lots of tyre options. Pick one that's geared for ride quality. This swap won't cost you too much either as R15 is the most common size among UVs. |
Set of tyre and rims will set you back by 50-60k though.
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Originally Posted by smartcat No cost but 100% effective solution is to reduce the tyre pressure to 25 PSI for city drives and 28 PSI for highway drives. Just keep the car under 60 kmph for city & 90 kmph for highway. |
Yup works fine if you are not an aggressive driver.
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Originally Posted by GTO Would be way too much, pal. The recommended pressure for the Thar is 35 PSI. |
Company recommends lower for unladen, iirc 32 psi, and if it's just two passengers 28 is pretty safe PSI.
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Originally Posted by cUjO I believe too much thought is being put on changing some fundamental characteristics here. The demands we place on our vehicles change with time and we have to accept it and move on. My suggestion is sell the thar and go for a hatchback or a sedan. If you can afford it though, keep them both! No point making it do whats its not meant to do. Rather pass it on to someone passionate and who has the time and place to use it. |
Another very good suggestion ^^
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Originally Posted by JayPrashanth 2. Keep tyre pressure at 30 PSI. This will make steering heavier and the Thar less responsive, but you can't have it all.
1+2 should make life a lot more comfortable. Your Thar will also handle better than stock on the curves. If you're moving to a city that has well laid tar roads than concrete ones, you'll see an improvement in ride quality even without making a single change. |
And that reminds me, how old are the tyres? If its more than 2 years and stock, changing them to a newer HT would help a bit.
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Originally Posted by BlackPearl I have got 15" wheels on my Thar shod with Michelin LTX AT and the ride quality has definitely improved. |
Like i mentioned earlier an HT latitude will make it even more plaint.
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Originally Posted by dhanushs The problem with the Thar's ride quality is not it being too harsh or jarring like the Jeep/Gypsy.
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You should be changing to better dampeners. Get high quality shocks like Ironman or Tein. A couple of friends are super happy with Ironmans in the car. Also, get tyres with higher sidewall (275/70/16 or 31x10.5x15) and maintain good air pressure. Nothing beats the dampening ability of a tyre, is my opinion. |
I differ to this, iron man and Tein i would not recommend for ride. Go for Bilstien only if you want comfortable ride. Also dont just go by sidewall height, they can actually mess up like i found out when i moved to bighorns. Since the sidewall is super stiff.
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Originally Posted by paragp2006 Totally Agree with you black pearl. Before touching any mechanics, This is the first thing one should do. I have Gurkha with me and instead of going for Fiber Leaf springs, Bilstein shocks and blah blah blah I would first go for 15 inch wheels (instead of 16 inches factory fits) with Michelin/Yoko ATs and I am sure added side profiles would give me cushy ride .
Also there is one more advantage of having 15 inches wheels. There are too many Tyre options at affordable price than 16 inches. |
If you are sure you want to keep Thar, try this first. 15 inch tires with higher (softer too) sidewall profile that will be off similar overall diameter of stock tyres.
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Originally Posted by gkveda If I were you, I would be going with a Hatch back OR sedan which has more riding comfort.
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All your investments on your modifications will go in drains and lastly, you have to invest in new car again (With probable price increase due to budgets) |
Absolutely sensible if you ask me.
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Originally Posted by swami69 All the best for making a well thought out decision. |
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Originally Posted by KkVaidya But the best way is to swap your car as advised by many on this thread. THAR is built for a purpose and it does have some brickbats on ride quality compared to SUVs. If you have used your vehicle for what it was intended for and are content with it, better someone else enjoy it. |
Scorpio 4x4 will give you best of both worlds
Will await for your response to the questions at the beginning, and then suggest further.