Will for Willys: My new 1962 Cj3b

amreshmahapatra · 23rd August 2009, 17:38

Hi Friends,

I have been in this forum for quite sometime, but more of the quiet type. A good friend and fellow bhpian, Dhwanit, re-introduced me to the love of go-anywhere, about an year back. He got himself a MM550 and I was hooked. Hours of passionate discussions over small technical stuff, the thrill of initial off-roading and the machines, I knew, I was bitten.

I searched for an off-roader for one year. Got completely confused between, MM540/550 & Gypsy and finally decided on a mm540. Identified a very clean mm540 in my home state, but because of some problems with the owner, could never lay my hands on that Vehicle.

During this long search, I was smitten by the Cj3b. I learnt driving on a petrol 3b in Orissa about 20 years back and I knew this was Old-love just getting rekindled. Identified a specimen about 5 months back and recently bought and got the vehicle to Bangalore. The Vehicle has been considerably modified from it's original self and it's a project to get it back to it's 1962 looks and feel. RHS steering, Side-opening tailgate, bucket seats, missing 4 wheel drive, gas-conversion, etc etc, the list is really long of how much this vehicle is different from the original. I have got a lot of inputs from this forum and hope to get a lot more in future during my project.

Did bother a lot of people in all this time that my search was on and initially after getting the vehicle. A special thank-you to Dhwanit, Shekhar, Khan_Sultan, Shiva(trammway), Santhosh(S@~+#0$#), Avinash(my brother) and UBS-the great. Thanks for your company, patience, technical inputs and thoughtful advice.

Pics

trammway · 23rd August 2009, 19:42

Superb. Congratulations for the Will to Live with the Willys. The important thing to do with this jeep is to convert the steering to left hand drive, which I'm sure I can help you.

Second is the front fenders, I hope you can find it in Shivaji Nagar or I can also help you on that part.

Looking forward to make this Willys a original state.

boeuff · 23rd August 2009, 19:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by trammway

The important thing to do with this jeep is to convert the steering to left hand drive,

Why would you want to do this, did this come in LH drive originally?

Cheers,

V-16 · 23rd August 2009, 20:59

Welcome to another Jeeper. Thats a good looking Cj you have there.

I can already see your passion for the 4X4 when you are speaking of restoring it (With no disrespect meant to the other gender, id like to say, that a Jeep should be referred to as a "He") to its original glory.

amreshmahapatra · 24th August 2009, 18:00

Trammway: Thanks, Steering to LHD is very much on the cards but later in the re-build. I am taking it slow and one thing at a time. Like we discussed today, lot of body modifications including petrol tank in the right place, Rear tail lamps, tailgate etc need to be done. Will be in touch to source the right parts.

boeuff: Yes this was originally a LHD vehicle. The holes where the clutch, brake pedals and steering column was originally, have been covered by plates and welded.

V-16: Thanks, I know exactly what you mean about the He/She part and I am consciously careful about it. So being gender unbiased, I prefer an impartial "IT"

dhwanit · 26th August 2009, 11:13

Congratulations, Amresh!!

First things first -- get the 4WD t-case work done, then enjoy an OTR before the monsoons are over and only after that get down to the restoration.

I have to make a trip to Marathalli/Whitefield to check the vehicle out. BTW is the Palio retired to the garage permanently now?

amreshmahapatra · 27th August 2009, 18:38

Thanks Dhwanit,

You are welcome to come in and check it out.
The Palio does see sunlight nowadays, but much less than the 3b.

I have started sorting out smaller issues in the 3b. As it came, It had a mis-firing problem. Took it to a local mechanic in Whitefield and he said it was a distributor problem.

My knowledge from cj3b page kinda pointed the problem to static timing and I thought the distributor need to be rotated to set the timing right. Mechanic changed the "point" inside the distributor, Virtually half serviced the carburettor(Solex), but nothing worked.

The mis-firing went from bad to worse. Finally got back the vehicle in the "worsened" state from this local mechanic and took it to "Swami" in Indiranagar last weekend. Jeep owners did talk about him a lot and his deftness in handling petrol Jeeps.

Great Old chap. Checked the dictributor cap wiring from the cap to the spark plugs, making sure that the correct numbered wire from distributer was connected to the correct spark plug. Surprisingly, 3 kms before reaching his garage, all the coughing, sputerring and ruckus which my jeep was making on the road, just seemed to vanish. I was a little surprised as if the jeep smelled Swami's presence nearby and corrected itself.
The problem was identified to the bolt which holds the distributor "cap-angle" into place.

The threads on this bolt had been levelled somehow. I have indicated the same below.
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|///========/////////| |
|-

Because of this the nut was never tightened on the bolt and basically the distributor was changing it's angles rampantly. That explained the sudden correction of timing en-route. Anyway Rs 5/- (new bolt and nut)and a Goldflake King is what it cost me. In my panic I had anyway gone and purchased the complete packing and servicing kit for the solex carburetor. That now goes to my spare parts kitty which I anyway need to build.

beejay · 27th August 2009, 18:59

Another one bites the dust. Congratulations.

By the way, Is that a hook near the bonnet?

There is an exceptionally well maintained CJ3b in my town, all stock and fully original. I would not be exaggerating if I say I have never seen such a well maintained CJ3b. Will try to get hold of the pictures and post them here.

amreshmahapatra · 27th August 2009, 19:14

Thanks Beejay,

Yes, they are extra hooks on the fenders. These did not come in the original model Willys but since the fenders have been changed to late model Mahindras, these extra hooks came along.

Do post the pics of the cj3b you are talking about.

DHABHAR.BEHRAM · 28th August 2009, 08:48

Dear Beejay - I am eagerly awaiting the CJ3B pictures.

Best regards,

Behram Dhabhar

beejay · 28th August 2009, 09:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by amreshmahapatra

Thanks Beejay,

Yes, they are extra hooks on the fenders. These did not come in the original model Willys but since the fenders have been changed to late model Mahindras, these extra hooks came along.

Do post the pics of the cj3b you are talking about.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DHABHAR.BEHRAM

Dear Beejay - I am eagerly awaiting the CJ3B pictures.

Best regards,

Behram Dhabhar

Will post them as soon as I am able to get the pictures. Its a beauty. He does not intend to sell, I have asked him prior.

svsantosh · 28th August 2009, 09:31

congrats... great looking Jeep. Do you want to retain the LPG Kit or dispose it?

Quote:

Originally Posted by amreshmahapatra

.....and a Goldflake King is what it cost me. ...

This is the reason

If you smoke - say no to LPG kit.

Btw - you need a lot more of the 5CM thing above to get thru a restoration process. Patience is key..

Quote:

Originally Posted by beejay

There is an exceptionally well maintained CJ3b in my town, all stock and fully original. ...

If you say well-maintained - we know what to expect. No wonder Behram Sir jumped up and asked for Pics... me +1, please grab some pics.

PAVAN KADAM · 28th August 2009, 09:49

One more restoration thread,

Wow, i love such threads.

Buddy you from Bangy , would love to see your Willyboy sometime.

Looks like you need to do a lot to restore it back to original, its not a difficult preposition.

Best of luck for your restoration, May God bless you with lots of patience and a Big Money filled Wallet.

motorpsycho · 28th August 2009, 10:06

Looks like one more guy went down with the jeep bug.. amreshmahapatra you are literally gonna go places with your jeep.. best of luck,
cheers

beejay · 28th August 2009, 10:10

@santosh, i will post the pictures as soon as I am able to get them.

23rd August 2009, 17:38	#1
amreshmahapatra BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 34 Thanked: Once	Will for Willys: My new 1962 Cj3b Hi Friends, I have been in this forum for quite sometime, but more of the quiet type. A good friend and fellow bhpian, Dhwanit, re-introduced me to the love of go-anywhere, about an year back. He got himself a MM550 and I was hooked. Hours of passionate discussions over small technical stuff, the thrill of initial off-roading and the machines, I knew, I was bitten. I searched for an off-roader for one year. Got completely confused between, MM540/550 & Gypsy and finally decided on a mm540. Identified a very clean mm540 in my home state, but because of some problems with the owner, could never lay my hands on that Vehicle. During this long search, I was smitten by the Cj3b. I learnt driving on a petrol 3b in Orissa about 20 years back and I knew this was Old-love just getting rekindled. Identified a specimen about 5 months back and recently bought and got the vehicle to Bangalore. The Vehicle has been considerably modified from it's original self and it's a project to get it back to it's 1962 looks and feel. RHS steering, Side-opening tailgate, bucket seats, missing 4 wheel drive, gas-conversion, etc etc, the list is really long of how much this vehicle is different from the original. I have got a lot of inputs from this forum and hope to get a lot more in future during my project. Did bother a lot of people in all this time that my search was on and initially after getting the vehicle. A special thank-you to Dhwanit, Shekhar, Khan_Sultan, Shiva(trammway), Santhosh(S@~+#0$#), Avinash(my brother) and UBS-the great. Thanks for your company, patience, technical inputs and thoughtful advice. Pics Attached Thumbnails
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23rd August 2009, 19:42	#2
trammway Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bridgewater USA Posts: 1,150 Thanked: 475 Times View My Garage	Superb. Congratulations for the Will to Live with the Willys. The important thing to do with this jeep is to convert the steering to left hand drive, which I'm sure I can help you. Second is the front fenders, I hope you can find it in Shivaji Nagar or I can also help you on that part. Looking forward to make this Willys a original state.
	() Thanks

23rd August 2009, 20:59	#4
V-16 Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: mumbai Posts: 4,594 Thanked: 950 Times View My Garage	Welcome to another Jeeper. Thats a good looking Cj you have there. I can already see your passion for the 4X4 when you are speaking of restoring it (With no disrespect meant to the other gender, id like to say, that a Jeep should be referred to as a "He") to its original glory.
	() Thanks

24th August 2009, 18:00	#5
amreshmahapatra BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 34 Thanked: Once	Trammway: Thanks, Steering to LHD is very much on the cards but later in the re-build. I am taking it slow and one thing at a time. Like we discussed today, lot of body modifications including petrol tank in the right place, Rear tail lamps, tailgate etc need to be done. Will be in touch to source the right parts. boeuff: Yes this was originally a LHD vehicle. The holes where the clutch, brake pedals and steering column was originally, have been covered by plates and welded. V-16: Thanks, I know exactly what you mean about the He/She part and I am consciously careful about it. So being gender unbiased, I prefer an impartial "IT"
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26th August 2009, 11:13	#6
dhwanit Newbie Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 14 Thanked: 0 Times	Finally the pics! Congratulations, Amresh!! First things first -- get the 4WD t-case work done, then enjoy an OTR before the monsoons are over and only after that get down to the restoration. I have to make a trip to Marathalli/Whitefield to check the vehicle out. BTW is the Palio retired to the garage permanently now?
	() Thanks

27th August 2009, 18:38	#7
amreshmahapatra BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 34 Thanked: Once	First Trip to the Mechanic(s) Thanks Dhwanit, You are welcome to come in and check it out. The Palio does see sunlight nowadays, but much less than the 3b. I have started sorting out smaller issues in the 3b. As it came, It had a mis-firing problem. Took it to a local mechanic in Whitefield and he said it was a distributor problem. My knowledge from cj3b page kinda pointed the problem to static timing and I thought the distributor need to be rotated to set the timing right. Mechanic changed the "point" inside the distributor, Virtually half serviced the carburettor(Solex), but nothing worked. The mis-firing went from bad to worse. Finally got back the vehicle in the "worsened" state from this local mechanic and took it to "Swami" in Indiranagar last weekend. Jeep owners did talk about him a lot and his deftness in handling petrol Jeeps. Great Old chap. Checked the dictributor cap wiring from the cap to the spark plugs, making sure that the correct numbered wire from distributer was connected to the correct spark plug. Surprisingly, 3 kms before reaching his garage, all the coughing, sputerring and ruckus which my jeep was making on the road, just seemed to vanish. I was a little surprised as if the jeep smelled Swami's presence nearby and corrected itself. The problem was identified to the bolt which holds the distributor "cap-angle" into place. The threads on this bolt had been levelled somehow. I have indicated the same below. \|- \|///========/////////\| \| \|- Because of this the nut was never tightened on the bolt and basically the distributor was changing it's angles rampantly. That explained the sudden correction of timing en-route. Anyway Rs 5/- (new bolt and nut)and a Goldflake King is what it cost me. In my panic I had anyway gone and purchased the complete packing and servicing kit for the solex carburetor. That now goes to my spare parts kitty which I anyway need to build. Attached Thumbnails
	() Thanks

27th August 2009, 18:59	#8
beejay Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: The Nilgiris Posts: 1,963 Thanked: 204 Times View My Garage	Another one bites the dust. Congratulations. By the way, Is that a hook near the bonnet? There is an exceptionally well maintained CJ3b in my town, all stock and fully original. I would not be exaggerating if I say I have never seen such a well maintained CJ3b. Will try to get hold of the pictures and post them here. Last edited by beejay : 27th August 2009 at 19:03. Reason: there is...
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27th August 2009, 19:14	#9
amreshmahapatra BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 34 Thanked: Once	Thanks Beejay, Yes, they are extra hooks on the fenders. These did not come in the original model Willys but since the fenders have been changed to late model Mahindras, these extra hooks came along. Do post the pics of the cj3b you are talking about.
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28th August 2009, 08:48	#10
DHABHAR.BEHRAM Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: MUMBAI Posts: 3,060 Thanked: 5,354 Times	Dear Beejay - I am eagerly awaiting the CJ3B pictures. Best regards, Behram Dhabhar
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28th August 2009, 09:49	#13
PAVAN KADAM BANNED Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NAMMA BENGALURU Posts: 5,602 Thanked: 2,549 Times	One more restoration thread, Wow, i love such threads. Buddy you from Bangy , would love to see your Willyboy sometime. Looks like you need to do a lot to restore it back to original, its not a difficult preposition. Best of luck for your restoration, May God bless you with lots of patience and a Big Money filled Wallet.
	() Thanks

28th August 2009, 10:06	#14
motorpsycho BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hubli Posts: 482 Thanked: 448 Times	Looks like one more guy went down with the jeep bug.. amreshmahapatra you are literally gonna go places with your jeep.. best of luck, cheers
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28th August 2009, 10:10	#15
beejay Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: The Nilgiris Posts: 1,963 Thanked: 204 Times View My Garage	@santosh, i will post the pictures as soon as I am able to get them.
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