[sushil_n79]

Originally Posted by singleton

My experience with WheelsWisdom in the last 2 months
@Sushil - I have been told by WheelsWisdom guys that some of their most senior guys (One of them is Anil who I had great experience with 4-5 years back) moved to Hyderabad and Chennai to run operations there. That is always a positive sign. Going by my interactions with these guys, I would guess the quality would remain the same. I would definitely give my car to them.

Hi Singleton
Thanks for sharing your experience with regards to them, it was very detailed and amazing. I am indebted to you for providing me with this information and to team-bhp for providing us with a medium to discuss our queries from time to time.
With regards to Mr. Anil moving in to Hyderabad would like to know which place he is in or his contact details if possible. In the meantime I will try to check the information from my end here as well. Appreciate your support

Take care and Stay Safe
Best Regards
Sushil

[naadopaasaka]

I tried posting to the Wheels Wisdom thread, but got a message that I was not authorised to post there. I thus post here. @Mods, I would kindly request you to move this post if necessary.

I drive a pre-facelift Maruti S-Cross Sigma 2017 with the 1.3L DDIS engine.

There were some minor complaints I had with the car. The car had also reached 40,000 kilometres and was turning 5 years old. My service experience with Nexa had been okay. It is certainly much better than some of the “horror stories” on this forum from some brands, but it isn’t nearly as good as it can be. I wanted the complaints resolved and also some sort of certificate (even if informal) that the car was good to do another 2-3 years and 15,000-20,000 km.

My grievances with Nexa are primarily two.

First, there is a laid back/ lax attitude combined with a general lack of application of mind and interest. Complaints are often not diagnosed or resolved properly. Everything requires following up and sometimes multiple visits. Promised time-lines are almost never kept. To illustrate, I had complained about the parking brake not having quite the grip it used to. They said they’d tightened the cable. One week later, it was back to where it was before they’d worked on it. On multiple occasions, I have spent half a day at the service station for work they confidently said would only take an hour or two to complete.

Second, there is some incompetence. An instance of their incompetence: They changed one glow plug but not all four together. The technician in his greasy overalls but with the wisdom and experience of having worked on thousands of cars told the manager that all four should be changed if one conks out. The manager, in front of me, vetoed him and said, “let’s do one for now and see.” In due course, a month later, the second failed, and on this occasion an SA from the same service station seemed very surprised that only one had been changed on the previous occasion. The part costs some ₹300 per piece. What prevented them from changing all four? My lack of knowledge also cost me the time and inconvenience of an extra visit. I suppose I also did end up paying extra by way of labour charges for two assignments instead of one. I now wonder whether it was just incompetence or whether the labour charges were a part of the calculation from ball one.

I had gotten tired of following up with Nexa. I therefore decided to approach Wheels Wisdom.

I thus signed up for a silver membership with Wheels Wisdom. The membership cost me ₹4,720 (all inclusive). I then booked a 6-monthly general check-up, which cost me ₹4,130 (inclusive of taxes). This would include, as per WW’s website/ policies, top-ups of fluids like coolant up to certain quantity limits (100 ml) and labour charges. They would not include parts and abnormal work. The coverage is set out in detail on their website at this link: https://www.wheelswisdom.com/whats-i...rvice-package/ .

Just in case you aren’t aware: If your car is within its warranty-period, then you’ll need a gold membership with WW. This will ensure that WW only takes the car to authorised service stations of that manufacturer so as not to void the manufacturer’s warranty. If it is beyond the warranty-period, then a silver membership will suffice where WW will take your car to multi-brand service centres. Nothing prevents you from taking a gold membership even after the warranty-period though, except that it costs more.

Anyway, here’s what I learnt about WW from the S-Cross’ 6-monthly check-up.


(1) You don’t deal with the service station directly. The WW representative is the only person you talk to. Your immediate point of contact is a person designated as a “technical advisor.” I dealt with one Shri Sasiharan who was unfailingly kind, courteous, perceptive and knowledgeable. He also loves both cars and his job, which really adds value! He came home (exactly on time) to pick up the car, kept in touch with me throughout the process, took approvals where required, dropped the car back home, and joined me on a test drive thereafter.

(2) WW claims that in its intermediary capacity, it will ensure that the service station does not carry out unnecessary work or overbill. I don’t know whether this affected my own experience.

(3) Problem-solving. When you make a booking, you are permitted to list complaints, if any, that you have with the car. I listed the following:
“a. Brakes don't have quite the grip they used to
b. Handbrake isn't as efficient as it used to be
c. Some juddering on the clutch, but not all the time. Usually only after a period of use either in stop-go traffic or after long drives on the highway.
d. A clicking sound when the clutch is being released or when the vehicle moves off from stationary. Can't exactly find a pattern as to when the sound occurs.
e. Some sound from the front suspension on bumps. Not sure if this is normal.
f. Dent on the boot-lid. (I am not particular about repairing this, but would like to know how much it would cost and whether it is feasible.)
g. Floor mats are torn and require replacement.
h. Display of reverse parking sensor not working. This was bought from the OEM at the time of taking delivery. It does not come standard with the car, though. This is the Sigma variant (base trim).”

(4) After I made the booking online, I got a call the next day from Shri Madhusudhan, who is a manager of some sort, one level above the technical advisor. He too was kind, courteous, knowledgeable and understanding. He had read my complaints, thanked me for the details and told me that none of these complaints require any further discussion between us and that the tech advisor would look at it when he picks up the vehicle.

(5) Once the car was picked up, I was constantly brought up to date on email and WhatsApp. My own number does not have WhatsApp so I had, for WhatsApp alone, requested WW to use another number. Without fail, all calls would be to my number, but all WhatsApp messages to the other number. They actually pay attention.

(6) The biggest positive in my experience is that the tech advisor ensures that the problem is diagnosed correctly. With the ASS directly, diagnosis is by a trial-and-error approach, often not yielding results, and you often end up paying for parts and service you didn’t need.

The tech advisor addressed the complaints listed above as follows. Against each item below, I also give in flower brackets details of what WW had said to me in their estimate by which they sought my approval before carrying out the work, and my response thereto.

a. Braking performance: The front brake pads were changed. He sent me photos showing that the width of the brake-pads had reduced and the photos showed the Vernier callipers. He explained that it was due to normal wear and that they required change. He sent similar photos of the rear brake pads but said that they hadn’t become thin enough to warrant change yet. {Front brake pads = ₹2,432; Thickness found to be 3.5mm. I approved.}

b. Handbrake performance: The handbrake cable has been tightened and, two weeks after, it is still working fine. Apparently Nexa’s tightening and WW’s tightening aren’t the same. {Handbrake cable adjusted; charges = nil}

c. Clutch Juddering: The clutch assembly was examined. I was told that the juddering was attributable ordinary wear but that the clutch was good for another 15K km approximately. {“Concern not reproduced, but this the symptom of clutch pressure plate wear and tear, vehicle pick up is good, hence clutch pressure plate can be replaced when vehicle pick up goes down.”}

d. Clicking Sound: This clicking sound proved to be quite the puzzle. The first sign of integrity was when the tech advisor sent a WhatsApp message saying that he had heard the clicking sound when he drove the car. After the checkup was complete, he took the car for a test drive and said the sound persisted. So they put the car back up on the lift and put a man inside the car to simulate moving off, and somebody standing underneath the car traced the sound to the front left wishbone (or drive shaft) and sent me a video showing the part with the audio showing the sound. They then examined the part and said it was healthy and did not require change. He said there was nothing wrong with the part but that the sound will continue and could increase. He said that it would be a good idea to take another look at it if the sound increases. I can’t imagine this level of effort without WW involved. {“Noise observed from left side drive shaft, need to replace the same - Customer kept it on hold.”}

e. Suspension Sound: This sound was found to be normal.

f. Dent on Boot-lid: They gave me an estimate and I chose not to go ahead with the work. {Cost estimate = ₹7,080. I postponed, inter alia, because WW told me they’d keep the car overnight and for an extra day.}

g. Floor Mats: Although WW does not deal in after-market stuff, the tech advisor sent me photos of floormats from a nearby shop. I picked one and was asked to pay the shop directly, which I did. I suppose this is an unofficial value-added service. {This cost me ₹1,700.}

h. Reverse Parking Sensor: WW declined to work on this on the ground that it is after-market.

i. Additionally, the AC air filter was replaced at a cost of ₹568. This has had a clear positive impact on cooling and air quality.

(7) I also understand that WW can get slots for service at authorised service stations more easily than you and I can. But I have no personal experience of this.

(8) They are very easy to contact and deal with. Every email from them has their escalation chain mentioned. After the service, they send you an email checking if everything is okay. In my case, following the replacement of the front brake pads, there was some squeaking/ squealing. When I mentioned that in response to their post facto email, I got a call the next morning and the manager explained to me that it was normal and would take 200-300 kms to go. He said that I should contact him if the noise continues after 500 km.

(9) I understand that in the event of part changes, WW is able to procure parts at cheaper prices. However, I have no personal experience of this.

My fifty-paise opinion: If you own a Maruti/ Tata/ Mahindra, I am not sure that the cost will work out to be cheaper than if you approach the ASS directly. I would like to be proven wrong on this. But I am absolutely willing to buy peace of mind and reassurance for the increment. Incompetence and dishonesty is an illness that seems to affect the whole of this sector. If you own a VW/ Skoda/ Jeep or something of that ilk, you will likely save a lot of money. But all this is speculation.

If I was to be picky, I would say that the sheer number of WhatsApp messages and emails can be overwhelming. But I am not bothered by that. I understand why they do it.

I suppose the question is whether you’re willing to pay the ask for these services. I am.

I apologise for not providing photos. I have, sadly, deleted all of them by mistake.

[Sidban85]

I used Wheels Wisdom last 2 years when I had my Skoda Rapid.
Their service was always 5 stars. Very courteous and patient and technically competent.
They used Raja Skoda for fuel injector issues and FNGs for suspension and similar issues.
Only issue was that sometimes the open slots were almost 1 week away, so if you need urgent support, it may be an issue.
But I would still recommend them as the pick and drop and rest of service was great.

[Zen Av8r]

I have been using Wheels Wisdom since 2017 to get my VW Polo and Honda Jazz serviced. The Polo is serviced at an FNG while the Jazz is taken to the Authorised Service Center. I am delighted and satisfied with the way WW handles the process. I have also found everyone from the WW Team that I have interacted with to be very positive and helpful.

[paradhak]

Couple of years back, I had met with a minor accident when a truck grazed the RH mirror of my Honda City in a slow moving traffic jam.
The casing of the assembly broke and came off. However the indicator and the electric folding functionality were intact.
Took the car myself to the Honda ASS, they quoted 7k+, saying that the entire assembly had to be changed. As per them it came as an entire set and the casing alone could not be changed.
Reached out to WW. They took the car to a different Honda ASS and managed to get a new casing. Including their charges, got it fixed for 4k.

I found them to be very polite and professional teams. Strongly recommend.

[singleton]

Totally agree with the above posts. My Jetta is with them currently for a new flywheel & water pump change, and there is no one else I can trust the vehicle with as much as these guys. And this comes from not just 1 experience, but at least 6 or 7 times that I have tried them over the last few years.

As I mentioned before on this thread, if you value peace of mind when it comes to getting your vehicle serviced and taken care of, Wheels Wisdom is a must try.

[Hulk]

Looking at multiple positive experiences other members have had with Wheels Wisdom, I have booked my Punto's work for this Monday. The bumper and few other things need work.

Though paying 4.7k as a one time overhead made me think multiple times, I am hoping that it's worth the money.

(Slightly OT: I almost booked GoMechanic and very glad that I didn't go through them, they started lying at the time of car inspection itself, so I can't imagine what would have happened post work)

[Zen Av8r]

Originally Posted by Hulk

Though paying 4.7k as a one time overhead made me think multiple times, I am hoping that it's worth the money.

Look at this as an insurance premium. When my car had an issue with ABS sensors. They took quite an effort to arrive at the conclusion that it was indeed an ABS failure as the warning would come on in all conditions and at times would go off on its own. Then after they found that two sensors were faulty and changed them, the problem reappeared after about a month. They changed the sensors under warranty. The feedback cycle is active for a month from the day the job is completed. My efforts saved in getting the work done was worth the membership charges.

[Graven5]

Wheels Wisdom = Trust. Have been a customer since 2018 and can vouch for their service including one for a full engine overhaul. Some great guys to mention too - Madhusudan and Aneez
The mandatory membership change was expected considering the quality service provided and lower margins on spare parts and charges to service centres.

Dilemma time is when your car is running very short distances and got just running repairs to be addressed - I still believe they can charge a premium for one time appointments without the need for a Gold/Silver membership.

[Hulk]

Originally Posted by Hulk

Looking at multiple positive experiences other members have had with Wheels Wisdom, I have booked my Punto's work for this Monday. The bumper and few other things need work.

Though paying 4.7k as a one time overhead made me think multiple times, I am hoping that it's worth the money.

(Slightly OT: I almost booked GoMechanic and very glad that I didn't go through them, they started lying at the time of car inspection itself, so I can't imagine what would have happened post work)

So an update - I had a good experience with the service and I'm glad I went with Wheels Wisdom.

I feel that money wise, the outgo might be same as the case of going to service center on your own, but the peace of mind with WheelsWisdom is huge! Also, I don't need to spend a lot of time in the service center. The folks over there are trustworthy for sure!

[Safeer]

I can also vouch for the amazing experience I have had using the services of WW almost since their time of inception. I had been using the services of Skoda Authorised Service Centres through WW.

In between it was through the sister concern of WW - Slash which they had discontinued and similar services offered through WW - Gold membership. I have been getting my earlier Laura and current Yeti serviced with Tafe Access through WW.

As other users have already mentioned in this thread, WW services and the associates whom I have interacted including their founder Mr. Sandeep Menon have been extremely cordial, patient and accommodating of my specific needs during each service! Another benefit I can see (again it could be my perception) is that my annual membership fee gets redeemed through carrying out only needed services and parts replacement by A.S.S.

Kudos to the whole WW team and also to Mr.Madhusudhan, Mr. Vipin Prasad, Mr.Jithin John et.al. to name a few. The consistency of customer interaction and courtesy- be it anybody from WW, is something that stands out and which is a rarety these days. It is complete ‘peace of mind’ solution for me as well as @Hulk quoted.

I too have been overwhelmed with the WhatsApp messages, pictures and videos, off course all connected to vehicle service. Another feedback I have given to WW is to change their branding stickers- though the phrases are catchy, design is outdated! I’m nitpicking here!

Overall highly recommended.

Note: I’m not associated with WW in any business relationship. Only been their loyal customer for years and thought that I needed to acknowledge their service experience in this esteemed forum.

[sushil_n79]

HI All

Hope this finds you in the best of health and spirits. just to reconfirm when I tried calling Mr Anil in Hyderabad last months , The number was not in service. I called the Contact number from the website and was told that at the moment wheels wisdom is only operating in Bangalore. Their Hyderabad and Chennai location has been closed. Any idea on this please?

Also when I try to avail their services its asking me to register for some silver or gold package first. This was not there when I checked their websites last year. Have their policies changed?

Regards

Sushil Narayanan

[Piyush Kanthak]

Greetings dear BHPians.
I currently own a 2007 Maruti SX4, its due for a service, after the horrors of MASS, I have decided to not give the vehicle for service over there, looking at the positive reviews I want to give wheels wisdom a try, they are quoting me 10K for regular service which I feel is costly, please let me know whether it is worth spending that much on a service?

[navrddy]

I would also recommend please also try T-serv (Swastikaa Auto Centre) , Begur Road, nearby IOCL petrol bunk.
I generally service my vehicle there, never go to MASS. you can literally see in front of your car getting serviced, unlike MASS.
Girish also recommends only must needed parts.

[NowNew7]

Seems a few locations and services were discontinued by Wheels Wisdom during the pandemic times.

I had recommended their used car assessment to a friend some time back and discovered it wasn't available anymore.

However received the following message in an email from them today:

"Dear Customer,

This is a quick update to let you know that Used Car Inspections are back at Wheels Wisdom!"