Good RCA Wires

kb100 · 27th April 2006, 00:41

Some fruits of my Research!!

For RCA, could you not use Belden # 1694A (approx 120bucks/mtr), and for the RCA plug, could one use Switchcraft Gold Tip, (approx 200 bucks)

Gurus??...

jkdas · 27th April 2006, 07:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by kb100

Some fruits of my Research!!

For RCA, could you not use Belden # 1694A (approx 120bucks/mtr), and for the RCA plug, could one use Switchcraft Gold Tip, (approx 200 bucks)

Gurus??...

that is ...120*6 +200*2 for a 6mtr setup

and 120*1 + 200*2...costly na?

kb100 · 27th April 2006, 11:59

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Originally Posted by jkdas

that is ...120*6 +200*2 for a 6mtr setup

and 120*1 + 200*2...costly na?

Yuip... so the 6 mtr should cost you 920.... or with Sam's help a litlle lesser!! (he mentioned special prices on Bledens for T-bhpians) ..

My question is .. will this be better - in quality - than the readymades...

navin · 27th April 2006, 13:14

Belden is better than most cable in it's price range. there are better cables ofcourse but Belden can embarrass many reputed brands.

jkdas · 27th April 2006, 13:30

Should be better then as Navin said.Also its soldered etc properly for better performance right?

Sam Kapasi · 27th April 2006, 13:50

A cable with suprisingly good performance in the car is Monsters XLN series. Very very good. I use it in my own car.

navin · 27th April 2006, 19:43

Monster XLN i think run more than Belden do they?

kb100 · 27th April 2006, 21:26

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Originally Posted by Sam Kapasi

A cable with suprisingly good performance in the car is Monsters XLN series. Very very good. I use it in my own car.

SAm

... Where do you get them..and how much did it cost you???

Sam Kapasi · 28th April 2006, 11:28

Navin, yes they are more expensive. But we never imported any Belden Line level cables in India, only speaker cables.
KB100, I never pay. Heh heh. But I do know that Monster XLN is sold in India, at all dealers that sell Monster Car Audio Cables. If you need help locating a dealer, lemme know, i can sort of tweak gonads from here.

Bass&Trouble · 29th April 2006, 03:26

Tweakin gonads...ouch!!! And Sam thinks I'm evil (Ouch again!!!)

Btw, Monster is distributed by Digimax India to the best of my knowledge. I don't know who distributes it in Bangalore but you can contact Zareer from Digimax at 0-98200-89786. I'm sure..in this case also, you can tell him that you have a reccomendation letter from Sam, and that you should get you a fair discount.

low_bass_makker · 16th May 2006, 10:26

Yesterday I was surfing the net and I found out this topic on rca wires. Please can we see about it is it right or wrong. Even the page is named as interconnects myths....

http://www.teamrocs.com/technical/pa...nect_myths.htm

navin · 16th May 2006, 11:46

hey i agree with most of that still a good conductor can make a difference and i have done double blind tests. In fact I did not even know that the cables had been changed and I could detect what sounded "right". My sister's hubby who conducted this experiment (by accident) was surprised with the results too.

a) skin effect occours at freq we dont consider to be part of the audio spectrum but many hf transducers also have response that extends into the same releam and we can surely hear these differences. I suspect there is more to the audible effects of skin effect than we can measure using current measuring techniques.

b) gold it not the best conductor at 25 deg C. silver is. gold is the best material to use if you want to plate something so that it does not corrode. in fact silver oxide is almost as good a conductoer as pure silver so even if it does corrode you wont notice

c) I never believed in Multipath stuff hence I have said this before Monster (the king od multipath) is over rated. still thanks to the care they put into their sleeves and marketing they do provide a easy way for those who cant find Nordost or VdH or Kimber etc... to get a decent if overrated cable.

d) capacitance see skin effect.

e) insulation. wonder why teflon is not used more!

f) as far as anti noise cable goes dont use it and if you do open one end so do you dont get a ground loop. if you dontunderstand what it means to "open one end" stick to Monster. There is nothing wrong with Monster execpt that it is a bit too expensive for what it does. Using some varites of Belden for example one can make 3 times the cable for the same money but then one has to feel inclined to learn and experiment.

low_bass_makker · 10th June 2006, 23:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by kb100

For RCA, could you not use Belden # 1694A (approx 120bucks/mtr), and for the RCA plug, could one use Switchcraft Gold Tip, (approx 200 bucks)

from where can I get the above stuff ???????????????

Also from where Neutrik is avaliable..........

27th April 2006, 00:41	#31
kb100 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bangy Boy! Posts: 1,555 Thanked: 21 Times	Some fruits of my Research!! For RCA, could you not use Belden # 1694A (approx 120bucks/mtr), and for the RCA plug, could one use Switchcraft Gold Tip, (approx 200 bucks) Gurus??...
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navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,198 Thanked: 9,302 Times	Belden is better than most cable in it's price range. there are better cables ofcourse but Belden can embarrass many reputed brands.
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jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	Should be better then as Navin said.Also its soldered etc properly for better performance right? Last edited by jkdas : 27th April 2006 at 13:35.
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27th April 2006, 13:50	#36
Sam Kapasi Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mumbai (but wat Posts: 6,997 Thanked: 2,378 Times View My Garage	A cable with suprisingly good performance in the car is Monsters XLN series. Very very good. I use it in my own car.
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27th April 2006, 19:43	#37
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,198 Thanked: 9,302 Times	Monster XLN i think run more than Belden do they?
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28th April 2006, 11:28	#39
Sam Kapasi Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mumbai (but wat Posts: 6,997 Thanked: 2,378 Times View My Garage	Navin, yes they are more expensive. But we never imported any Belden Line level cables in India, only speaker cables. KB100, I never pay. Heh heh. But I do know that Monster XLN is sold in India, at all dealers that sell Monster Car Audio Cables. If you need help locating a dealer, lemme know, i can sort of tweak gonads from here.
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29th April 2006, 03:26	#40
Bass&Trouble Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bombay Posts: 2,754 Thanked: 124 Times	Tweakin gonads...ouch!!! And Sam thinks I'm evil (Ouch again!!!) Btw, Monster is distributed by Digimax India to the best of my knowledge. I don't know who distributes it in Bangalore but you can contact Zareer from Digimax at 0-98200-89786. I'm sure..in this case also, you can tell him that you have a reccomendation letter from Sam, and that you should get you a fair discount.
	() Thanks

16th May 2006, 10:26	#41
low_bass_makker Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Faridabad Posts: 6,815 Thanked: 305 Times View My Garage	Yesterday I was surfing the net and I found out this topic on rca wires. Please can we see about it is it right or wrong. Even the page is named as interconnects myths.... http://www.teamrocs.com/technical/pa...nect_myths.htm
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16th May 2006, 11:46	#42
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,198 Thanked: 9,302 Times	hey i agree with most of that still a good conductor can make a difference and i have done double blind tests. In fact I did not even know that the cables had been changed and I could detect what sounded "right". My sister's hubby who conducted this experiment (by accident) was surprised with the results too. a) skin effect occours at freq we dont consider to be part of the audio spectrum but many hf transducers also have response that extends into the same releam and we can surely hear these differences. I suspect there is more to the audible effects of skin effect than we can measure using current measuring techniques. b) gold it not the best conductor at 25 deg C. silver is. gold is the best material to use if you want to plate something so that it does not corrode. in fact silver oxide is almost as good a conductoer as pure silver so even if it does corrode you wont notice c) I never believed in Multipath stuff hence I have said this before Monster (the king od multipath) is over rated. still thanks to the care they put into their sleeves and marketing they do provide a easy way for those who cant find Nordost or VdH or Kimber etc... to get a decent if overrated cable. d) capacitance see skin effect. e) insulation. wonder why teflon is not used more! f) as far as anti noise cable goes dont use it and if you do open one end so do you dont get a ground loop. if you dontunderstand what it means to "open one end" stick to Monster. There is nothing wrong with Monster execpt that it is a bit too expensive for what it does. Using some varites of Belden for example one can make 3 times the cable for the same money but then one has to feel inclined to learn and experiment.
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