difference b/w pioneer 5850 4850 and 3850

premdiv · 3rd June 2006, 06:16

hello anybody please tell me the difference b/w the pioneer models 5850 3850 and 4850. i would like to install a simple but good music set up on my system with just HU and 2 or 4 Speakers in my baleno. so is it worth to go for 5850 for that 3 preouts, whereas 4850 has 2 preouts and 3850 has 1 preout. Other than this, is there any notable difference in SQ b/w these 3 models as all are 50W mosfet x 4. iam not planning to install amps and sub. so please suggest me the best combination under 15k budget with HU and speakers.

Tool · 3rd June 2006, 06:44

hey bro.. if you are not going to EVER install a amplifier then you dont need the pre amps... they only usefull if you are going to install amps... other than that.. about SQ i woudlnt know.. never used them...
hope this helped...

Bass&Trouble · 3rd June 2006, 11:56

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Originally Posted by Tool

hey bro.. if you are not going to EVER install a amplifier then you dont need the pre amps... they only usefull if you are going to install amps... other than that.. about SQ i woudlnt know.. never used them...
hope this helped...

Tool, that statement is completely incorrect at best.

Pre-amps are required irrespective of whether he uses the on-board amp of the HU or an external amplifier. The volume control, tone controls etc are all incorporated into the pre-amp, in addition to the pre-amp's job of preparing the signal by amplifying it to a suitable level for the power amp. Can't bypass this stage.

On the other hand, he could do without the HU's in-built power amp if he were to use only external power amps to drive all speakers.

gunbir · 3rd June 2006, 12:01

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Originally Posted by Bass&Trouble

Tool, that statement is completely incorrect at best.

Pre-amps are required irrespective of whether he uses the on-board amp of the HU or an external amplifier. The volume control, tone controls etc are all incorporated into the pre-amp, in addition to the pre-amp's job of preparing the signal by amplifying it to a suitable level for the power amp. Can't bypass this stage.

On the other hand, he could do without the HU's in-built power amp if he were to use only external power amps to drive all speakers.

B&T when he said preamps, I think he meant preamp outputs. Tool is an audio engineer, It would be safe to assume he knows what preamps do.

Bass&Trouble · 3rd June 2006, 12:11

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Originally Posted by gunbir

B&T when he said preamps, I think he meant preamp outputs. Tool is an audio engineer, It would be safe to assume he knows what preamps do.

Oh, ok ok. I took the statement quite literally. Ouch, sorry Tool!

boom boom boom (lemme hear ya say hey-ho) cheesy!

navin · 3rd June 2006, 12:35

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Originally Posted by gunbir

B&T when he said preamps, I think he meant preamp outputs. Tool is an audio engineer, It would be safe to assume he knows what preamps do.

I agree. i am not an audio engineer and even i know what pre-amps do. Atleast I think I do.

jkdas · 3rd June 2006, 12:59

tech apart; if its just a matter of 1-2k,just get the high end one

And 4850 has a pop down thingy; cuts out dust than 3850.

5850 has 2 preouts and teh other two has just one. I would say, get 4850. Do you have the price quote?

Tool · 3rd June 2006, 18:44

heheh all goood .. my fault really.. should have specified also

yeah i meant pre amp puts.. wasent talking of the pre amp's built into the machine

sorry.. should have been a little more clear... whoooops

navin · 5th June 2006, 10:01

i dont think much dust enters via the cd slot. more enters from the rear chassis.

3rd June 2006, 06:16	#1
premdiv BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 164 Thanked: Once	difference b/w pioneer 5850 4850 and 3850 hello anybody please tell me the difference b/w the pioneer models 5850 3850 and 4850. i would like to install a simple but good music set up on my system with just HU and 2 or 4 Speakers in my baleno. so is it worth to go for 5850 for that 3 preouts, whereas 4850 has 2 preouts and 3850 has 1 preout. Other than this, is there any notable difference in SQ b/w these 3 models as all are 50W mosfet x 4. iam not planning to install amps and sub. so please suggest me the best combination under 15k budget with HU and speakers.
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Tool BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 351 Thanked: 4 Times View My Garage	hey bro.. if you are not going to EVER install a amplifier then you dont need the pre amps... they only usefull if you are going to install amps... other than that.. about SQ i woudlnt know.. never used them... hope this helped...
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jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	tech apart; if its just a matter of 1-2k,just get the high end one And 4850 has a pop down thingy; cuts out dust than 3850. 5850 has 2 preouts and teh other two has just one. I would say, get 4850. Do you have the price quote? Last edited by jkdas : 3rd June 2006 at 13:15.
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Tool BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 351 Thanked: 4 Times View My Garage	heheh all goood .. my fault really.. should have specified also yeah i meant pre amp puts.. wasent talking of the pre amp's built into the machine sorry.. should have been a little more clear... whoooops
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navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,199 Thanked: 9,307 Times	i dont think much dust enters via the cd slot. more enters from the rear chassis.
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