need advice on a major ice install in tata safari...

clipto333 · 13th January 2007, 04:46

hi,

a friend of mine is planning to install a good ice system in his new tata safari...his budget is aroun 1.5L...he will definitely get ripped of in our city...so all you ice pros please suggest how to go about it...good bass and sq is what he is looking for...and no dvd HU...

thanks in advance

hydrashok · 13th January 2007, 09:42

Ahhhh... *rubbing hands in glee*. 1.5L and no video stuff. Goooooood!

HU: A good SQ HU (Clarion/Alpine/Kenwood/Blaupunkt): 20,000/-
Front speakers: HSK165 (6.5" 2-way components): 15,300/-
Rear Speakers: HCX165 (6.5" 2-way co-axials): 12,000/- (approx - not sure).
Subs: 2 x IDQ12" DVC: 24,000/- (approx - not sure)
Sub box (sealed, partitioned, braced, damped & lined): 2,500/-
Speaker Amp: Audison LRx4 (65w RMS x 4): 35,000/-
Sub amp: Audison SRx2S (180w RMS x 2 @ 4ohms -- wire at 2 ohms for about 300w per channel): 28,000/-
Power Wiring: Audison 4G kit + Accessories + additional wire where needed: 12,000/-
RCA Interconnects: FT2-600, 3 sets: 3000/-
Damping & install: 15,000/-

TOTAL = 1,66,800/- = 1,67,000/- (This is on MRP. He should get at least an 8K discount on the total, making it 1,59,000/-)

I've overshot a bit, but not much. If he can, an Audison LRx2.500 amp for the subs (36,000/-) instead of the SRx2S would be a good idea. He may be able to save a little on the HU (but just a little), depending on the specific choice.

Driving to Delhi for the job will be a very good idea.

Make sure you let us know what your friend ultimately finalises on, will ya? And Pics too :-)

navin · 13th January 2007, 10:40

Clipto follow this thread....

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/car-en...stock-ice.html

I'd consider audition atleast 4 brands before deciding for example...
HU: Clarion, Alpine, Pioneer and Kenwood
Amps: Audison, Alpine, Audiobahn, JBL
Speaker/Subs: Hertz, Alpine, Infinity, Morel

There are many many other brands but these just came to mind.

I'd also reserve 15% of the budget for wires, damping and install.

Autophile · 13th January 2007, 10:43

The Hertz Hi Energy HCX165 coaxials are for Rs. 8900.

hydrashok · 13th January 2007, 10:59

Clipto, I forgot speaker wires: About 4000/-

So we add 4000/- and reduce the difference in the HCX coaxials: new total = 1,60,000/- (pls refer to post #2).

navin · 13th January 2007, 12:11

Hydra,

I know you love Hertz but there are other brands out there too.

hydrashok · 13th January 2007, 13:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by navin

Hydra, I know you love Hertz but there are other brands out there too.

Yes, Navin; Point taken

Autophile · 13th January 2007, 13:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by navin

Hydra,

I know you love Hertz but there are other brands out there too.

Navin, though Hydra has taken the point but I think Hertz is his personal preference. He liked them, thats why he has them in his car and suggesting others on this forum.

As far as the other brands are concerned there are more than 10000 members on this forum who can suggest anyone of them and post their personal opinions, I don't think there should be any kind of objection on expressing one's personal preference on this forum.

hydrashok · 13th January 2007, 14:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autophile

... I think Hertz is his personal preference. He liked them, thats why he has them in his car and suggesting others on this forum.

Yep. If it were my 1.5 lakh, this is exactly how I would spend it.

gunbir · 13th January 2007, 19:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autophile

Navin, though Hydra has taken the point but I think Hertz is his personal preference. He liked them, thats why he has them in his car and suggesting others on this forum.

As far as the other brands are concerned there are more than 10000 members on this forum who can suggest anyone of them and post their personal opinions, I don't think there should be any kind of objection on expressing one's personal preference on this forum.

JB, I know you love Hertz but there are other brands out there too

ScarySkulls · 13th January 2007, 19:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by clipto333

hi,

a friend of mine is planning to install a good ice system in his new tata safari...his budget is aroun 1.5L...he will definitely get ripped of in our city...so all you ice pros please suggest how to go about it...good bass and sq is what he is looking for...and no dvd HU...

thanks in advance

how good are the installers there in jalandhar?
How bout a drive down to Ludhiana or better still, chandigarh?

and ofcourse there's nothing better than delhi to the BBW... (smile)

clipto333 · 14th January 2007, 01:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScarySkulls

how good are the installers there in jalandhar?
How bout a drive down to Ludhiana or better still, chandigarh?

and ofcourse there's nothing better than delhi to the BBW... (smile)

installers in jalandhar??? oh we can call them butchers..hehe...lud chd del not a prob...

thanks guys for your advice

tsk1979 · 14th January 2007, 11:40

Don't go to ludhiana.
For small installs upto 30K ldh is fine, but for your kind of budget go for a Chandigarh based installer. You will have to rely on lot of local feedback to find the right one.

rsjaurr · 14th January 2007, 19:28

I agree with tanveer.
Clipto i have seen all that myself when i was looking for good installer in punjab.many installer would be able to fit all the stuff in ur car but none can really install and then tune it the way it is recommended here.LDH guys dont even now how to stich car seat cover and dont even expect them u installsuch high class stuff in ur car.They all have stacked up chinese amp kits,sony explode subs and fake alpine amps etc.
Just go to any shop and talk about SQ,gain settings,front sound stage,sound imaging etc and u will know what i am talking about!!!

Just one guy at phagwara [auto-planet] seemed good to me that too i talked to him on phone and his brother raju is the owner of shop.Rajat[scaryskulls] recommended him to me but i just could not go to him for some reasons.

Now u got 1.5lac which is huge amount of money so best for u is put that mony in ur pocket and head straight to delhi and meet JB and gunbir there.They r nice guys and tell them i have recommended them to u.

They will help u out more than ur expectations.

Now do what what i said as i hate amp falling off from seat when u have spent not just some money but some sleepness nights as well.

clipto333 · 14th January 2007, 20:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsjaurr

LDH guys dont even now how to stich car seat cover and dont even expect them u installsuch high class stuff in ur car.They all have stacked up chinese amp kits,sony explode subs and fake alpine amps etc.
Just go to any shop and talk about SQ,gain settings,front sound stage,sound imaging etc and u will know what i am talking about!!!

Just one guy at phagwara [auto-planet] seemed good to me that too i talked to him on phone and his brother raju is the owner of shop.Rajat[scaryskulls] recommended him to me but i just could not go to him for some reasons.

i agree with you no one knows how to install the ice system the way it is meant to be. they only know 1 thing, bass and alot of bass. i asked the best installer (butcher) here, dont remember what he said. he will give all the details on paper, trust me you will laugh your @$$ off. i think i remember a few thing he said. so here are the details.

1.) 3 premier 12" 3000w peak power dvc sub

2.) 2 pairs pio ts 20 tweets

3.) compos

4) 6x9 co-ax 2 pairs i guess more than that

that is what i remember. so you get the picture. right?

And that guy in phagwara, i think i know him. if im not wrong, long time back i got my ice system installed by him. at that time auto planet didnt exist. he did a godd job. IMO leave aside chd, he is the best guy in punjab if he is the same guy.

13th January 2007, 04:46	#1
clipto333 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: jalandhar Posts: 912 Thanked: 7 Times View My Garage	need advice on a major ice install in tata safari... hi, a friend of mine is planning to install a good ice system in his new tata safari...his budget is aroun 1.5L...he will definitely get ripped of in our city...so all you ice pros please suggest how to go about it...good bass and sq is what he is looking for...and no dvd HU... thanks in advance
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13th January 2007, 10:40	#3
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,412 Thanked: 9,969 Times	Clipto follow this thread.... http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/car-en...stock-ice.html I'd consider audition atleast 4 brands before deciding for example... HU: Clarion, Alpine, Pioneer and Kenwood Amps: Audison, Alpine, Audiobahn, JBL Speaker/Subs: Hertz, Alpine, Infinity, Morel There are many many other brands but these just came to mind. I'd also reserve 15% of the budget for wires, damping and install.
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13th January 2007, 10:43	#4
Autophile BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Delhi Posts: 931 Thanked: 4 Times	The Hertz Hi Energy HCX165 coaxials are for Rs. 8900.
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13th January 2007, 10:59	#5
hydrashok Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In my Office Posts: 2,527 Thanked: 19 Times View My Garage	Clipto, I forgot speaker wires: About 4000/- So we add 4000/- and reduce the difference in the HCX coaxials: new total = 1,60,000/- (pls refer to post #2).
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13th January 2007, 12:11	#6
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,412 Thanked: 9,969 Times	Hydra, I know you love Hertz but there are other brands out there too.
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13th January 2007, 09:42	#2
hydrashok Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In my Office Posts: 2,527 Thanked: 19 Times View My Garage	Ahhhh... rubbing hands in glee. 1.5L and no video stuff. Goooooood! HU: A good SQ HU (Clarion/Alpine/Kenwood/Blaupunkt): 20,000/- Front speakers: HSK165 (6.5" 2-way components): 15,300/- Rear Speakers: HCX165 (6.5" 2-way co-axials): 12,000/- (approx - not sure). Subs: 2 x IDQ12" DVC: 24,000/- (approx - not sure) Sub box (sealed, partitioned, braced, damped & lined): 2,500/- Speaker Amp: Audison LRx4 (65w RMS x 4): 35,000/- Sub amp: Audison SRx2S (180w RMS x 2 @ 4ohms -- wire at 2 ohms for about 300w per channel): 28,000/- Power Wiring: Audison 4G kit + Accessories + additional wire where needed: 12,000/- RCA Interconnects: FT2-600, 3 sets: 3000/- Damping & install: 15,000/- TOTAL = 1,66,800/- = 1,67,000/- (This is on MRP. He should get at least an 8K discount on the total, making it 1,59,000/-) I've overshot a bit, but not much. If he can, an Audison LRx2.500 amp for the subs (36,000/-) instead of the SRx2S would be a good idea. He may be able to save a little on the HU (but just a little), depending on the specific choice. Driving to Delhi for the job will be a very good idea. Make sure you let us know what your friend ultimately finalises on, will ya? And Pics too :-)
	() Thanks

14th January 2007, 11:40	#13
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,688 Thanked: 23,489 Times View My Garage	Don't go to ludhiana. For small installs upto 30K ldh is fine, but for your kind of budget go for a Chandigarh based installer. You will have to rely on lot of local feedback to find the right one.
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14th January 2007, 19:28	#14
rsjaurr BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Batala Posts: 777 Thanked: 28 Times	I agree with tanveer. Clipto i have seen all that myself when i was looking for good installer in punjab.many installer would be able to fit all the stuff in ur car but none can really install and then tune it the way it is recommended here.LDH guys dont even now how to stich car seat cover and dont even expect them u installsuch high class stuff in ur car.They all have stacked up chinese amp kits,sony explode subs and fake alpine amps etc. Just go to any shop and talk about SQ,gain settings,front sound stage,sound imaging etc and u will know what i am talking about!!! Just one guy at phagwara [auto-planet] seemed good to me that too i talked to him on phone and his brother raju is the owner of shop.Rajat[scaryskulls] recommended him to me but i just could not go to him for some reasons. Now u got 1.5lac which is huge amount of money so best for u is put that mony in ur pocket and head straight to delhi and meet JB and gunbir there.They r nice guys and tell them i have recommended them to u. They will help u out more than ur expectations. Now do what what i said as i hate amp falling off from seat when u have spent not just some money but some sleepness nights as well.
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